Help w/ AAS induced hypogonadism and lab results

[MADBALL99]

ttt

 

[JohnnyWest]

Definetley talk to your endo, i dought there is enough active deca to be causing any problems. I'm not an expert like your endo but here is a possible pct to run again.
week
1-3 1500iu hcg mwf with 50mg clomid and .5mg adex ed or eod as needed
4-7 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva, 40mg nolva first week and 100mg clomid first 3 days
good luck

 

[MADBALL99]

Why would prolactin be so low ?

 

[MADBALL99]

Also, what effect does HCG have on LH and FSH if any ?

 

[MADBALL99]

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[MADBALL99]

He basically said that sice I'm young he thought I would return to normal......withing 6 months to a year. The thing is that even though he said he's seen many cases like mine, he didn't seem to know about treating it. He knew a little about clomid, but was inexperiened when it came to HCG. He said he could refer me to a good fertility clinic where they treat these things directly. Now I'm not sure what to do. I was planning on running a PCT protocol consisting of HCG, Clomid, and a little Nolva.......but I don't want to make anything worse. I'm stuck.

 

[parteeman]

He basically said that sice I'm young he thought I would return to normal......withing 6 months to a year. The thing is that even though he said he's seen many cases like mine, he didn't seem to know about treating it. He knew a little about clomid, but was inexperiened when it came to HCG. He said he could refer me to a good fertility clinic where they treat these things directly. Now I'm not sure what to do. I was planning on running a PCT protocol consisting of HCG, Clomid, and a little Nolva.......but I don't want to make anything worse. I'm stuck.

You need to make an appointment with Swale. Contact him through Allthingsmale.com. He's the leading expert on cases just like yours and will bring you back. You have to fly to East Lansing, Michigan to see him the first time, but the $400 bucks you'll spend on the flight and the $250 for the diagnosis and drugs will be the best money you've ever spent. And just for the record, I'm just a happy patient and have no financial or other interest in the doc's business.

 

[Juiced]

First off bro dont panic, your body WILL regain homostasis once that deca is completley out of your system, deca stores in fat cells and can be released into the blood for up to 18 months after the last injection, everytime you do something physical im sure that deca is releasing out of your stored fat, lowering your test levels and making you lethargic. Also deca is hands down the worst aas you can use that causes the worst shut down of your system, did you know that is takes 5 250mg shots of test to shut down the bodys production of test while it takes one 50mg shot of deca to shut you down? I would personally do a small cycle of HCG and Nolva or even exemestane and HCG, run the HCG at 500ius ed for 3 weeks with 20mg of exemestane and you should be fine in no time, just give it time, do NOT to HRT, you are young and no way you will need that, dont let your doc talk you into that based on his ignorance as that being the easiest way out for him to treat you. Write you a script and send you off, dont do it. Go to www.proteinfactory.com and buy unleashed, it contains natural herbs that are clinically proven to raise free test levels in the body, trust me it works, I have used it and now always wake up with morning wood. I have not had that in years as I dont come off aas or GH, but once I started using unleased I totally seen the difference. Good luck and calm down, youll be fine bro.

 

[MADBALL99]

I appreciate your time to answer my post. I have heard of swale and even spoke w/ his assistant over the phone. He said that he could set up a phone conference w/ me and my primary physician.

A few questions for PARTEEMAN.....

Did he treat you for AAS induced hypogonadism and help bring you back or are you on lifelong TRT/HRT ? Are you familiar w/ his protocols for bring someones HPTA back or do you know of specific cases that he's worked on to bring people back ? I appreciate you time. Thankyou

 

[dr_skier]

bro, listen to some of the other people here. Save the money and stress in your life from every trip to the doctors office and run another pct. Seriously. The one with HCG +clomid+nolva+AI like was mentioned, then re-evaluate. What's 3 more weeks to feel normal again?