Hello Pro-Choice!!

[atlantabiolab]

I am for abortion till age 40, and for euthanasia from age 40.

The thinking of a true Communist.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Don't bring Jesus into this. This post has remained Curling-free and should stay that way.

come on now matt. no curling cheap shots, and if they are to start now, include me in them.


thanks.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

I hope you find yourself a nice passive little wifey that likes to be told what and how to do it.

velfeet you can tell me what to do !!!

 

[justyxxxx]

I don't know enough about late term abortions to comment on them, but from where I stand, abortion is OK in my book. The way that I see it is that it's much safer than a girl getting pregnant and sticking a clothes hanger up her to get rid of the baby herself.

Some of you guys take risks . . . you stick animal drugs in your bodies not truly knowing what's in them. Not that I'm saying that I wouldn't or won't, but if steroids were LEGAL like abortion, then people wouldn't have to resort to such measures. They might still, but personally I would go for the safer route.

But then again, abortion does involve another life . . . and I can't say that abortion is necessarily right when I look at it from that perspective, but I can say that I want to keep it as an option . . .

I'm finished rambling. I'm looking back thinking - did I just compare steroids to abortion? Hmmm . . . this vodka is good stuff!

 

[velvett]

Are you now talking about "immaculate conception"? A choice is made every time a child is created. In some instances a child is desired, in some it is not but still accepted. In the cases of abortion, the choice was made to deny the consequences of the actions and then cry victim when confronted with the consequence of their choice.

I want to strangle you sometimes.

Yes, a choice is made everytime someone chooses to have sex - unprotected sex is usually (although not always) a route to potential unwanted pregnancy. Which by the way IS what I was getting at in my comment. Wear a condom, save a fetus.

For the record - I would be surprised if many women would cry "victim" after aborting a fetus. (I didn't say men because I not even going speculate what goes through the male mind.)

A sigh of relief would be the popular first thought and perhaps a later feeling of "what if".



Perhaps men should stop trying to make assumptions as to what women think, feel or how women choose to behave.


And for you political hounds.

You should be happy that for every aborted child with parents that have no health care - you the taxpaper won't have to pay for the term of their pregnancy and for the delivery.

 

[Robert Jan]

post natal abortion

 

[Longhorn85]

It did not take long.



Democracy is a wonderful thing.

Yes, US Democracy is a wonderful thing. The model for the world. This expected appeal however, will be handily rejected.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Yes, a choice is made everytime someone chooses to have sex

Choice--->consequences. It's gender neutral. We are all the beneficiaries of someone's decision not to abort us. How can anyone of either gender argue FOR a procedure which, if done on them, would have resulted in their non-existence?

You should be happy that for every aborted child with parents that have no health care - you the taxpaper won't have to pay

This is nonsense. If taxpayer savings were the goal of legislation, the first law paassed would be the immediate machine gunningof all persons over 65. We spend almost half of the federal budget on them annually. Think of the savings if we killed them off.






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[velvett]

Matt,

You just like to argue so you can sIt back and re-read what you have just wrote.


You have no idea what it is to be a woman and I doubt you will ever get over yourself to realise that your point of view is not the only possible and acceptable point of view.

When it comes to the choice or consequence of sex - I'm sorry it is NOT gender neutral.

There is no equality between a woman carrying a child for nine months and a man that supplied the sperm. We like to think so or hope so from an emotional standpoint but physically and socially there just is not a common comparison.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Matt,

You just like to argue so you can sIt back and re-read what you have just wrote.

Yes, I call it death by logic. I suppose your posts could be called "life by emotion".

You have no idea what it is to be a woman and I doubt you will ever get over yourself to realise that your point of view is not the only possible and acceptable point of view.

If we are discussing legislation, and public policy, none of this "how it feels" crappo matters at all. Appeals to emotion just make you sound whiny. Never thought you a whiner, but I guess I never knew what questions to ask.

When it comes to the choice or consequence of sex - I'm sorry it is NOT gender neutral.

There is no equality between a woman carrying a child for nine months and a man that supplied the sperm. We like to think so or hope so from an emotional standpoint but physically and socially there just is not a common comparison.

Your appeals to amorphous social perspecitves are complete non-starters.