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heart attack at 28

I would hope that his cycle use was mentioned to the physicians taking care of him. These are questions for a professional that know his past medical hx, family hx, current medications, full blood workup, assessment/physical etc....
 
dear girl, based on the quoted paragraph, it doesn't really matter what caused the heart attack, tell your husband that the combination of screwed up hormones, bad genes and periodically shitty eating habits caused it and if he wants to live long enough to hit the half century mark he better get his act together and care more about his health than his appearance.

At least that's what i'd do if it was my husband.

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Questions about correlation of having a heart attack and recently ending a cycle....

Husband..28, otherwise healthy, no medical history, first true cycle, he did a cycle of dbol 5 years ago with no pct or any real dosing(yeah he wasnt smart then so I did the research for him this time) He just finished his cycle about 1.5weeks ago, he had a heart attack monday morning....

10week cycle
200mg test prop 3x/wk
not sure but I think 200mg tren ace 3x/wk
T-3 25mcg tapered up to 50mcg throughout cycle and upon ending cycle he lowered to 25, currently at 25 then 1 more week down to 0
Aromasin 20mcg throughout

currently doing pct-his buddy hooked him up with this not sure what hes taking, but I know hes still taking aromasin but at 30mcg/day, its week 2 of pct

he just had a heart attack on monday morning...is this from coming off a cycle and things being out of whack?? or no correlation at all?? Is there other things he needs to add to help him? He didnt use anything for liver like milk thistle, etc, no gyno, more of a recomp this cycle, lost some bodyfat and kept/gained muscle.

please dont flame me lol, it was hard enough getting him to follow a proper diet while using, let alone taking all precautions for pct and throughout cycle. I want advice and/or comments on if the heart attack was related to the steroids. thanks




Welcome to elite, don't worry about being flamed i won't tolerate it here, I'm sorry about your hubby ,half of this mess starts most of the time when someone tells him to take so & so and he will get muscle & burn fat ,those people should be shot.

Now the best thing he can do is recover slowly until all tests are in to see where he stands, maybe start out with short walks, when he is able ,get him on a light training routine. He can look good if he dials in his diet.

This should help

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-build-muscle-loose-fat-then-read-712503.html
 
thanks for all the responses...yes every man in his family has died by the age of 50, his dad is 48 and has had 5 heart attacks..

it was very mild, and no the doctors didnt go into any details-they put him on prilosec and they ran a bunch of tests I will post when we get them back

Yes an aggressive beginners cycle-I KNOW..hey Im his wife, i can only control so many things...I got it "down" to just those two with some reasoning-and also because of his family history I wouldnt let him take clen for the heart related issues

I came on here because I like advice from this site, and also because of his job he cant talk to the doctors about steroids, we may consult with an out of network doctor and discuss things depending on the test results and what the doctors say-to me prilosec isnt gonna cut it, but his cholesterol and triglycerides were high in the past, and I know he had blood pressure issues because he was always complaining about being dizzy and headaches.

Ive tried putting him on one of my diets and supplements like Needtoslin(which I love btw) Im not making excuses but his bodytype is really weird...hes extremely skinny in the legs and his stomach always looks really soft and bloated-fat-I think 36in? But his butt/hip cirumference would be like 30in:) I KNOW hes never been under 15%bf just by looking at him you can tell. but his upper body and arms are really good size 19in arms.
--Ive tried the palumbo diet for him, also just a general low carb approach with 2 beverly style refeed meals per week, nothing seems to be helping get him in better shape..What other diets can I put him on? Im currently doing 40/30/30 and sitting comfortably at about 14%bf, I have no problems with getting and staying in shape, him on the other hand, Im lost.


To most everyone on this site it is obvious the steroids were a bad idea, but somehow he cant connect steroids to having ANY negative sides, he had bad acne and was suprised when I suggested the steroids were causing it, I guess Im here to try and clean up the damage, also to note that maybe this will be a good example for those not ready for AAS to take more precautions, but sadly the people who need to hear a story like this are not the ones here, its the vets who have the knowledge and experience reading this thinking WOW, another one...
 
thanks for all the responses...yes every man in his family has died by the age of 50, his dad is 48 and has had 5 heart attacks..

it was very mild, and no the doctors didnt go into any details-they put him on prilosec and they ran a bunch of tests I will post when we get them back

Yes an aggressive beginners cycle-I KNOW..hey Im his wife, i can only control so many things...I got it "down" to just those two with some reasoning-and also because of his family history I wouldnt let him take clen for the heart related issues

I came on here because I like advice from this site, and also because of his job he cant talk to the doctors about steroids, we may consult with an out of network doctor and discuss things depending on the test results and what the doctors say-to me prilosec isnt gonna cut it, but his cholesterol and triglycerides were high in the past, and I know he had blood pressure issues because he was always complaining about being dizzy and headaches.

Ive tried putting him on one of my diets and supplements like Needtoslin(which I love btw) Im not making excuses but his bodytype is really weird...hes extremely skinny in the legs and his stomach always looks really soft and bloated-fat-I think 36in? But his butt/hip cirumference would be like 30in:) I KNOW hes never been under 15%bf just by looking at him you can tell. but his upper body and arms are really good size 19in arms.
--Ive tried the palumbo diet for him, also just a general low carb approach with 2 beverly style refeed meals per week, nothing seems to be helping get him in better shape..What other diets can I put him on? Im currently doing 40/30/30 and sitting comfortably at about 14%bf, I have no problems with getting and staying in shape, him on the other hand, Im lost.


To most everyone on this site it is obvious the steroids were a bad idea, but somehow he cant connect steroids to having ANY negative sides, he had bad acne and was suprised when I suggested the steroids were causing it, I guess Im here to try and clean up the damage, also to note that maybe this will be a good example for those not ready for AAS to take more precautions, but sadly the people who need to hear a story like this are not the ones here, its the vets who have the knowledge and experience reading this thinking WOW, another one...




Yes WOW! I have over 35 yrs in this field, I've seen it all ,and yours is no different, what he needs is not a diet but healthy foods with measured Portion sizes served several times a day ,read all of my thread about building muscle and loosing fat!

I can tell you this about steroids
to someone who has never or just started working out
1- Yes they will raise your cholorestrol levels
2- Yes they will stress your immune system
3- Yes they will raise your Blood Pressure
If you're not an athlete ,Yes they are unhealthy to take!
 
thanks for all the responses...yes every man in his family has died by the age of 50, his dad is 48 and has had 5 heart attacks..

it was very mild, and no the doctors didnt go into any details-they put him on prilosec and they ran a bunch of tests I will post when we get them back

Yes an aggressive beginners cycle-I KNOW..hey Im his wife, i can only control so many things...I got it "down" to just those two with some reasoning-and also because of his family history I wouldnt let him take clen for the heart related issues

I came on here because I like advice from this site, and also because of his job he cant talk to the doctors about steroids, we may consult with an out of network doctor and discuss things depending on the test results and what the doctors say-to me prilosec isnt gonna cut it, but his cholesterol and triglycerides were high in the past, and I know he had blood pressure issues because he was always complaining about being dizzy and headaches.

Ive tried putting him on one of my diets and supplements like Needtoslin(which I love btw) Im not making excuses but his bodytype is really weird...hes extremely skinny in the legs and his stomach always looks really soft and bloated-fat-I think 36in? But his butt/hip cirumference would be like 30in:) I KNOW hes never been under 15%bf just by looking at him you can tell. but his upper body and arms are really good size 19in arms.
--Ive tried the palumbo diet for him, also just a general low carb approach with 2 beverly style refeed meals per week, nothing seems to be helping get him in better shape..What other diets can I put him on? Im currently doing 40/30/30 and sitting comfortably at about 14%bf, I have no problems with getting and staying in shape, him on the other hand, Im lost.


To most everyone on this site it is obvious the steroids were a bad idea, but somehow he cant connect steroids to having ANY negative sides, he had bad acne and was suprised when I suggested the steroids were causing it, I guess Im here to try and clean up the damage, also to note that maybe this will be a good example for those not ready for AAS to take more precautions, but sadly the people who need to hear a story like this are not the ones here, its the vets who have the knowledge and experience reading this thinking WOW, another one...

My fiance is a physician and I'm an RN. I mentioned this to her and we both agree that he shouldn't be taking ANYTHING unless under the supervision of a physician. I mean nothing, even something as simple as creatine. His family cardiac history is one of the worst I have heard of. His genetic lifeline ends at 50 unless he is VERY VERY careful about his health and what he's putting into his body. He should even be on a strict cardiac diet even now. I would advise him to stop trying to 'bulk' on muscle and stick to a regimented cardio schedule. His heart is his most important muscle in his body and he needs to pamper the shit out of it.
 
thanks for all the responses...yes every man in his family has died by the age of 50, his dad is 48 and has had 5 heart attacks..

it was very mild, and no the doctors didnt go into any details-they put him on prilosec and they ran a bunch of tests I will post when we get them back

Yes an aggressive beginners cycle-I KNOW..hey Im his wife, i can only control so many things...I got it "down" to just those two with some reasoning-and also because of his family history I wouldnt let him take clen for the heart related issues

I came on here because I like advice from this site, and also because of his job he cant talk to the doctors about steroids, we may consult with an out of network doctor and discuss things depending on the test results and what the doctors say-to me prilosec isnt gonna cut it, but his cholesterol and triglycerides were high in the past, and I know he had blood pressure issues because he was always complaining about being dizzy and headaches.

Ive tried putting him on one of my diets and supplements like Needtoslin(which I love btw) Im not making excuses but his bodytype is really weird...hes extremely skinny in the legs and his stomach always looks really soft and bloated-fat-I think 36in? But his butt/hip cirumference would be like 30in:) I KNOW hes never been under 15%bf just by looking at him you can tell. but his upper body and arms are really good size 19in arms.
--Ive tried the palumbo diet for him, also just a general low carb approach with 2 beverly style refeed meals per week, nothing seems to be helping get him in better shape..What other diets can I put him on? Im currently doing 40/30/30 and sitting comfortably at about 14%bf, I have no problems with getting and staying in shape, him on the other hand, Im lost.


To most everyone on this site it is obvious the steroids were a bad idea, but somehow he cant connect steroids to having ANY negative sides, he had bad acne and was suprised when I suggested the steroids were causing it, I guess Im here to try and clean up the damage, also to note that maybe this will be a good example for those not ready for AAS to take more precautions, but sadly the people who need to hear a story like this are not the ones here, its the vets who have the knowledge and experience reading this thinking WOW, another one...

You sure that's all the doctors put him on? An acid reflux drug?
My husband was misdiagnosed with an ulcer for a couple months by more than one ER doctor, and put on rabeprazole (another acid reflux drug like prilosec) and ondansetron (nausea drug) before they realized that the nausea and severe pain in his stomach was in fact an enlarged liver and the beginning of kidney failure because his organs were so engorged with fluid backed up from his heart. We knew it was his heart failure, and had to repeatedly tell the ER doctors that he needed to see a cardiologist.
Has your husband been seen by a cardiologist? Don't be afraid to take charge and ask for details, you are your husband's best advocate right now.
 
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