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HCG - Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin

Widi said:
I've finished my cycles with and without HCG and definitively I feel better when I use it. Specially when I've used Deca. It brings back my sex drive alot faster then Clomid alone!

In spite of the ones who say it will delay recuperation I disagree because for me that statement is NOT true. And I didnt have any problems with Gyno either (using doses up to 2500 iu)

It's not a matter of opinion here. It's not HCG affects some people this way & some that way.......it delays the inevitable no matter what your 'opinion' on it is. That's like giving an opinion that the world is flat when we have scientific proof that it's not. Have your blood tested during HCG....you'll see.....for exactly what HCG does go here.......
 
Ok ulter, let me get this strait. If I use hcg, use it maybe week 8&9 (depending on how I feel) @ 500iu/ed. I shouldn't use anything during the 3 weeks until clomid. Is this correct? Should I use nolv\proviron during hcg? What about continuing it after. Help me out buddy.
 
Bottom Line.....Don't use it if you don't know what you are doing. If used at the proper time, it can be quite effective for what it is used for. If you are prone to gyno, don't use it. It is not a necessity by any means, as Ulter said it is purely used for testicular size and sex drive...thats it
 
If I use hcg in weeks 8&9 at 1500iu/wk for sexdrive purposes, should I use nolvadex/proviron during this time? Should I also use nolv/proviron during clomid use?
 
I do think HCG has a resaonable purpose of use, for example, i did an cycle not to long ago, it consisted of 1 gram of test (sustanon) a week for 15 weeks, 50 mg of d-boll for 10 weeks, 600mg of deca for for 10 weeks, along with hgh, which i tend to use all year round for this year, after i got done with half of my cycle, deca, and d-boll, i stopped making gains, just maintained what i had, if that, my ballz were shurunken!! :confused: i then completed my cycle, and waited about 3 1/2 weeks and hit clomid, i was still losing some weight, i did 100mg of clomid a day for 4 weeks, what happpend not a damn thing, my ballz were still small, and for somme reason, i felt my nat, test lev, were low, yes my clomid was real, my boy stole it from cvs, since he is an intern there :angel: well as i was saying shit did not happen, with my clomid theraphy, so i got some hcg, i shot up 5000 ius of it in my delt, and about 4 days later my ballz were getting nomral again, know what does this mean, does this mean hcg is not good, i think not, u superb fuck head, i have started my new cycle know it consist of 1 gram of ara-test, 50mg of anavar and 25 mg of proviron i started this cycle, a week ago, i took and still my ballz are back to there normal size, huge if u ask me 3 g/f :mix: i did 1 shot of hcg, waited 3 weeks to start the cycle im on know, and i noticed withing them 3 weeks my ballz were back to nomral with a shot of hcg, and no clomid.....
 
I hear what you are saying Ultra

I can't even see why Iron Game is dishing out advice when he himself has admitted that he's never even completed a sucessful cycle. However, in his defense maybe the cycle you were on was too heavy for just 100mg/day of clomid and maybe you needed more. I don't know, I just finished my clomid therapy and did a couple of shots of 2500 I.U. HCG and by balls are still small and I still don't have any sex drive. I'm thinking I just need to do more clomid therapy but this time I need to use a lot more clomid. One question, tho if you don't use clomid will your htpa ever get back to normal on it's own? Why do doctors perscribe HCG for low test levels then if it doesn't work for that? How come every steriod site on the net suggests doing HCG at the end of every cycle?
 
IMO the only reason to use it is to keep your nads from shrinking but if it's gonna cause all these other problems why the hell would someone want to use it? Seems to me the risk outweighs the benefit. Plus, as long as my "snake" still slithers who gives a shit about the nads, they'll always come back home! :p
 
Re: I hear what you are saying Ultra

KK, continue reading your website information and continue being mis informed. Are these by any chance the same web sites that say use nolvadex along with deca and anadrol to keep water retention down? Are they the same websites that say sustanon is better than all other esterfied tests because it has 4 esters so it is the case of 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5

Wake up
 
Goldsbull If you use it in 8&9 of what? A 10 week cycle, a 16 week cycle? You don't want to use it for sex drive. Proviron is better suited for that. If you want to get your testes big and bouncy mid-cycle, or if you want to use it at the end of cycle WHILE YOU ARE STILL USING YOUR AS then it will be useful as you head into your off time waiting to take your clomid.
 
This may sound like a stupid question, but does HCG or clomid convert to DHT or speed up heritary baldness. Jut curious because if it picks up your test levels and makes most people get acne wouldn't it do this as well.
 
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