HCG - Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin

[FreakMonster]

i would only use HCG at the end of my cycle to get my Natural Testosterone running again and get that sex drive back to normal. That's the only reason you should use it.

 

[BigPsyco]

QUOTE]Originally posted by liquidmuscle
so on a 8wk cycle when would it be wise to add the hcg,,maybe wk 6?? like i had mentioned before i lost all sex drive and lost almost all of my gains on my last cycle i need to know how to prevent this from happening again, i tried tribulus,yada yad yada,,what can help me [/QUOTE]






What kind of cycle were you on?

 

[BigPsyco]

i would only use HCG at the end of my cycle to get my Natural Testosterone running again and get that sex drive back to normal. That's the only reason you should use it.

I give up

 

[Nimrod25]

IG,

One should use both HCG and clomid together, since they do work differently the combo would be quite good. I think using HCG during the last 2 weeks of a cycle which will mimic LH and directly stimulate the testes, can make clomid use more efficient. If the testes are not in an atrophied state and an estrogen agonist is introduced, the dual action of blocking estrogen from the hpta while producing ur natural test can increase recovery significantly. HCG only needs to be used in doses of 500iu/day, because too much can cause LH receptor downregulation thus becoming counterproductive, also using HCG post cycle is not a good idea, as it will increase androgen and estrogen levels thus delaying recovery and increasing estrogen related side effects.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i was on 30mgs denkall 10mg d-bol but didnt see results so i bumped it up to 50mgs for 5wks i also did 500mgs sust every 5 days and 1cc of test200 every 7days for 10wks i only gained like 15lbs and kept maybe 7, i still have no sex drive and its been 4 months ago,,i used clomid but shit i dont think it was real it didnt help that was forsure,,matter of fact i dont think the d-bol(denkall 10mg) or sust(redijects) was real either

 

[The Iron Game]

Hcg will not help with natural testosterone production, it will only delay the start of it.

It is also one of the # 1 causes of gyno as well as bring many other side effects that may be hard to control

Bottom line: do not use it

 

[1Banshee]

IG,

One should use both HCG and clomid together, since they do work differently the combo would be quite good. I think using HCG during the last 2 weeks of a cycle which will mimic LH and directly stimulate the testes, can make clomid use more efficient. If the testes are not in an atrophied state and an estrogen agonist is introduced, the dual action of blocking estrogen from the hpta while producing ur natural test can increase recovery significantly. HCG only needs to be used in doses of 500iu/day, because too much can cause LH receptor downregulation thus becoming counterproductive, also using HCG post cycle is not a good idea, as it will increase androgen and estrogen levels thus delaying recovery and increasing estrogen related side effects.

Here I would have to agree. While it seems clear HCG will delay recovery if used at the wrong time. When used as laid out above and possibly even into the first week post cycle, I believe there is a benefit.

 

[The Iron Game]

If someone was to use hcg then it should be used before the cycle ends, this is without a doubt. Clomid + HCG means you cannot start natural test production until you come off the HCG. It is pure cosmetics. I never really have understood the use of hcg but after reading a little up on it I am even more lost as to why anyone would wish to use it. Nimrod25, you are absolutely correct if it is going to be used doses should be kept very low. Unfortunately it doesnt, well I havent seen it come in 500iu amps, I have only seen 1500, 2500 and 5000. Many people do not split this, they have a 2500 iu amp and they will shoot it all.

"I am not convinced that even arimidex or like can help prevent the production of estradiol, or its side effects, caused by hCG use. This is because the estrogen production happens within the balls rather than in peripheral tissue"

Doc Mark

 

[gUiLe]

IG- You have me convinced. I was thinking about throwing it in my next cycle as an additional saftey net,
but see it looks like it will do much more damage then
good. Thanks IG!!

 

[Kool Keith]

Damn

I just finished my cycle by doing clomid + HCG at the same time. Now I'm thinking I'll probably have to do my clomid therapy again right? How long 'till the efeects of the HCG wear off? How long should I wait? My nuts don't feel any bigger and I still don't have any sex drive, but I feel a lot better mentally maybe it's just because the AS has worn off. Also I did a lot of deca. Like 4.5g's over ten weeks. Should I be doing more clomid than just 100mg a day for two weeks?