HCG - Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin

[Vitruvius]

Hmmmm...

This is a good thread IG.....Here is my story, I have been using HCG for over three years with my cycles. Usually right at the last 2-3 weeks of the cycle I start. This brings my testes back larger than they were before the cycle. After the two weeks, I start my Clomid and stop the HCG. My testes and sex drive are always top flight after a cycle. Also I use Arimidex at 1mg a day 6 weeks past every cycle and every day of every cycle. I believe, as do many successful bodybuilders, that HCG is useful for bringing sex drive back. I have never experienced gyno or any other side affects after going up to 10,000iu weekly. This may not be so for many others, but I wouldn't do a cycle without it........just my .02

 

[goldsbull]

That's a great post IG. In designing my first cycle I was going to take it the last two weeks of a 500mg/wk sus, 400mg/wk deca, and 40-80mg/ed anavar for 10wk cycle. I have read in article that use should use hcg and clomid to better keep your gains. This post throws a big question into my last weeks. I was planning on waiting 3 weeks after last injection to start clomid at 100mg/ed for 1st week and 50mg/ed for 2nd week. Now what should I do? It is important to me that I keep as much muscle as possible when coming off. I will also start clen when I start clomid. Will it be ok for me to have nothing in my body while I wait for the 3 weeks to pass or should I use anavar or winstrol tabs during this time? Would it be useful to take some hcg in the middle of my cycle or would it be a waist? Would I take nolv/proviron during this time if used in middle of cycle? I like to be very thurough. Can you help me out?

 

[Powerclean315]

Bump for a reply from Fonz, Stew, or Andy.

Also what is the half life of HCG? If it is used during the last 2 weeks of a cycle incorporating EQ and Sust should you still start your clomid therapy 21 days after last inj?

 

[graffixx]

well i just started week 6 taking 500 sust and 100 deka eod and dbol in the first 4 i also have clomid and hcg i am starting to get sore tits today and was going to ask if these would help. My sex drive is up gotto get it every day atleast once and i dont want to loose that hehe at 32 you tend to do that
Graffixx

 

[The Iron Game]

Also I did a lot of deca. Like 4.5g's over ten weeks. Should I be doing more clomid than just 100mg a day for two weeks?

Yes nandrolone has the potential to shut you down a lot harder than test. I dont know for deca but parabolan will shut you down 3 times harder than testosterone. You will more likely need greater than 100mgs for 2 weeks but without blood tests no one can say for definite.

 

[Ulter]

Deca hangs on too long so you're not likely to get your HPTA back up and running on two weeks of clomid even at 100mg if you've been on 450mg for ten weeks. You should wait 3-4 weeks after your last shot instead of two like you do for test and then use the clomid 3 weeks at least.
HCG is a good thing to use for a midcycle bump of the testes and yes it will delay the starting of your natural test. But if you want to get your balls big and bouncy again HCG will do that for you. It's an aesthetic thing.
It is useful for your post cycle course as well though. It is fast acting and so if you use it in the last two weeks it won't be delaying anything that the androgens aren't delaying anyway. I use it every 8-10 weeks. But I am on all the time so for me it is an aesthetic enhancement.

 

[serge]

5000iu vial can be split, as long as you keep it in the fridge it will be ok for a couple of weeks, i like to use it during my last two weeks of a cycle, taking 500-1000iu every third day or so, then once im off AS i would start clomids

 

[Mad Max]

Allright, I coming to an end in my cycle. It was weeks 1-12 500mgs of test, weeks 10-16 winny 50 mgs ED. Weeks 12-18 primo 300 mgs a week. I am on week 17, one more shot of primo. I had planned on doing 300 mgs of clomid the first dayof week 2 of post cycle and 100 mgs a day the rest of the week. I also plan on running it at 50 mgs a day for 2 more weeks. I wanted to run hcg at 1000 iu at day one when I start the clomid , and another shot a few days later. All I want is my testis to be larger from the hcg. Is this a bad idea?? I posted a question on this over at elite select board and i heard using hcg with clomid or mid cycle is the most beneficial time to use it.
---PEACE---Mad Max

 

[Ulter]

MadMax

Well the only thing wrong is your dosing. But yeah if you want to get your testes back to size then this is your answer. It should be dosed at 1000iu/day for ten days.

 

[Mad Max]

Ulter, isn't that alot of hcg for the amount of stuff I used. If you have acces to elite select you will see my post on "when to use hcg" and george answered back just pasting some info. Can you check it out and the reply again explaining the dosages. Thanks.
---PEACE---Mad Max