Gyno From Deca? Yes Or No!

[Big Brother Val]

I have used pretty much every type of EQ but Ultragan. I like Ttokkyo the best by far.

My next cycle is going to look VERY similar to your second choice up there. EQ/Cyp/Tren. I'll have winny on hand, in case gyno symptoms start... but won't take it if I don't have to. My joints hurt bad enough as it is, and can't risk Winny giving them more grief.

I won't take arimidex/liquidex with it though, as EQ and Fina don't cause water retention, and I'm not worried about it with the test unless I hit close to a gram a week of it. So I take 50 mgs of clomid eod throughout the cycle to prevent gyno.

I'll hit 800 mgs eq weeks 1-12, 400 mgs cyp weeks 1-10, and 150 mgs fina/day weeks 1-8. I'll take the tren up front, as EQ takes a good 6 weeks to really kick in.

Both of those cycles look great. I've taken the first cycle suggested already, with great results, but I would personally take the second one, as I'd like to see the results with Fina in there rather than d-bol, as d-bol doesn't do much for me besides give me a kick ass pump in the gym.

You may also want to start a new thread, asking for more opinions as well.

 

[WannaImpress]

BBV, this are actually what some of the gurus both here and at AF have suggested for me to do! I am personally leaning towards my second suggestion because I really want to stay away from fat which many people say comes into play with dball! So pretty much your using the fina as a kick-starter for your cycle, correct? Maybe I should take out the winny and just save it case of gyno signs! 800mgs of EQ, huh, what I tell you, you just "LOVE" that EQ!

 

[Big Brother Val]

Right on, man. Yeah... I totally dig EQ. Tren just may beat it out as my favorite due to the faster gains in muscle... but the combination of the two I feel is really gonna kick some major ass.

I personally think the second cycle is the way to go. D-bol is fun... but only for pumps, IMO. I don't grow well off of it. I don't actually gain any fat... but not a lot of muscle either. I only use it to jumpstart the cycle waiting for the EQ to kick in, and I think Tren would be a MUCH better choice for that.

I'm extremely gyno sensitive, and the Fina has caused no symptoms at all. So I think I'm pretty safe... but who knows. So I will keep the Winny on hand just in case, but won't use it unless I have to. The sides don't warrant the use.

When are you going to start that cycle?

 

[WannaImpress]

Well I have all my goods ready and was planning on starting the 1st of October, but just talking about it makes me want to start next week! Shit, I really want to too! When do you start?

 

[Big Brother Val]

Lucky bastard. After this Fina run, I'll take a bit of time off... then hit the big one Nov. 1st. (roughly)

I took Fina alone right now, to check out the gyno situation. I love the results of Fina by itself... so I can't wait to see what happens when I combine it with the Test and EQ.

At least this way I can follow your progress, and know what to expect. It's gonna be damn hard to wait, though.

 

[WannaImpress]

, LOL, either way I start before you bro.! Don't worry I'll keep you updated! Just hope I get some awesome results from this combination, first time trying out the Equipose! Ever frontload, or just a steady dose through out the entire cycle?

 

[Big Brother Val]

I've never front loaded... and I'm looking into it. To me, it seems dosage would be an issue. If I take 1000 mgs a week, like I did last time... saying 2000 mgs a week would make it hit my system faster doesn't make much sense to me. As I'd hit 2000 mgs by the second week anyway. Maybe if I was taking 500 mgs a week, I'd start my first week off at a gram. But I'm not sure.

So I've considered 1600 mgs for my first week, then 800 mgs a week for the following 11. EQ is safe... but I'm just not totally sold on the front load yet.

 

[South of the border]

In my first 3 or 4 cycles, nothing gave me gyno.

Today, it seems I get gyno just looking at a vial of test.

I have used 400mg of deca with nothing else. Three weeks after the gyno hit me. Very bad.

On another cycle I tried 500mg of eq (with nothing else) and got gyno after 3 weeks!

 

[Mike P.T.]

yes. u can get it from deca. no. i never have personally.

 

[Big Brother Val]

I got gyno from 400 mgs a week of Deca.

However I can take Fina at 100 mgs/day with no symptoms at all. I'm not sure if it's just that Fina doesn't convert as easily or what... but I won't complain because Fina gives me great results.