Good Price for 1-AD?

[Nelson Montana]

Good points Scaggs. I'll try to address them as well as possible.

Opposite placebo? Interesting. But you have to realize, I've been at this for a l-o-n-g time, so I'm not expecting spurts of growth. HOWEVER, if I were to take a REAL roid, well...I'd get results beyond what would be possible with my normal training routine. That didn't happen with 1-AD. And the loss of libido isn't placebo. That was very real. (Man, that sucked -- never even happened after a real cycle).

I wonder if the inventors and maufacturers of this stuff use it instead of steroids? Just a thought.

I honestly believe that if someone could make an effective product, they would. But they can't. And if they did, it would never be allowed on the market. Besides, if anything like that does get invented, it won't be by some supplement manufacturer. It'll be by a real scientist.

Why can't 1-AD work if it's similar to the structure of Primobolin? Well,a piece of furnitue that's made of compressed sawdust is SIMILAR to a solid wood piece. Skim milk is SIMILAR to whole milk. A monkeys DNA is SIMILAR to a humans that it's just one step away from a humans DNA. But that's a BIG step. Hey, you can keep going with this, can't you? Imitation crab meat is SIMILAR to crab meat. A man's ass is SIMILAR to a womans ass...

Similar isn't the same.

From here on in, I'm going to avoid discussing this on forums. It's too time consuming. If anyone wants the full story, they can read the book. And for anyone who has used a "muscle building" supplement and thinks it was effective, be it placebo or not -- whatever works. But I've experienced the way this business works from the inside. I have to call it as I see it.

 

[Scaggs]

Points well taken.

Scaggs

 

[pa1ad]

Good points Scaggs. I'll try to address them as well as possible.

Opposite placebo? Interesting. But you have to realize, I've been at this for a l-o-n-g time, so I'm not expecting spurts of growth. HOWEVER, if I were to take a REAL roid, well...I'd get results beyond what would be possible with my normal training routine. That didn't happen with 1-AD. And the loss of libido isn't placebo. That was very real. (Man, that sucked -- never even happened after a real cycle).

I wonder if the inventors and maufacturers of this stuff use it instead of steroids? Just a thought.

I honestly believe that if someone could make an effective product, they would. But they can't. And if they did, it would never be allowed on the market. Besides, if anything like that does get invented, it won't be by some supplement manufacturer. It'll be by a real scientist.

Why can't 1-AD work if it's similar to the structure of Primobolin? Well,a piece of furnitue that's made of compressed sawdust is SIMILAR to a solid wood piece. Skim milk is SIMILAR to whole milk. A monkeys DNA is SIMILAR to a humans that it's just one step away from a humans DNA. But that's a BIG step. Hey, you can keep going with this, can't you? Imitation crab meat is SIMILAR to crab meat. A man's ass is SIMILAR to a womans ass...

Similar isn't the same.

From here on in, I'm going to avoid discussing this on forums. It's too time consuming. If anyone wants the full story, they can read the book. And for anyone who has used a "muscle building" supplement and thinks it was effective, be it placebo or not -- whatever works. But I've experienced the way this business works from the inside. I have to call it as I see it.

So I am not a real scientist?

 

[bdog527]

Well....

I guess the 12lbs. (9 of which were kept) I gained from a 1AD/4AD stack were placebo muscles. Gosh and they look so real too!

 

[rikk]

Nelson

Just because you wrote a book on old supplements it does not make you an expert on current ones. Old supps are mainly crap. New one like Creatine, 1-AD, 1-Test are much better and I think will eventually be proven with studies.

So you write a book and you think you know it all.

Hell, Hillary Clinton wrote a book! Big Whoop!

Remember, there are Fiction and Non-Fiction books.

I dont think yours qualifies as Non-Fiction.

More like Fantasy Fiction, found on the same aisle as Star Trek.

 

[Quietman54]

This is a Pretty good and cheap website to find Supplements on.

www.myvitanet.com

1-AD 100mg 1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol 60 Capsules $36.25 Ergopharm


Andro Spray 240cc 28.00 Ergopharm


If your going to use 1ad make sure you take the Androspray with it.

Other than that your probably better to invest in the real stuff if you can find it.

Some Fina and Test Cypionate would be great LOL

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

Nutri-Wrestler:

You had the great results. Is it too soon to know what you were abole to maintain. I was talking with someone who did 1-AD. He said he kept most of the strength increases in most lifts. But not so much in others. He wasn't watching for muscle gain so he can't report that. I loked like you posted both. I would be interesting to see how you are doing post Cycle.

Also, PA1AD - How is this stuff best cycles. Will 3 weeks on/3off and on and on do the trick?

I lost about 4 pounds post cycle, however, i quickly gained them back. I have been off 1-AD and Boldione for about 6 weeks i guess

 

[ripd2shred]

RIKK

WWW.MASSNUTRITION.COM has Ergo's Andro Spray for $25.50.

Their prices are the best so far I have seen. Check them out or

call: 866-577-MASS


peace
ripd

 

[grafix-GNC]

I did a cycle of boldione and 1-AD. read my thread for the info. its called 1-AD and Boldione: the sides and everything else

make sure you get your diet in order. take in a lot of protein and a lot of clean carbs and some good fats. do this and train hard and you will gain.

btw, what are your stats?

Nutri-Wrestler is my brother and i watched him turn from a little scronny punk to a friggin beast, it works if you have the dedication that he has, props to him, PM to get his info as far as training

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

aww, thanks reid. hopefully i will get bigger by contest time. btw, i am comin home tomorrow so get ur money together