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Goal: Jacked inner pecs and thunderous biceps

BiggT said:
I'm slow at work, so I will post up today's 'diet' as well.

Breakfast: 5 Jumbo eggs, 3 slices of whole wheat toast, 2 servings of oatmeal, 1 quart of skim milk.

Meal 2: 1 quart of skim milk

Meal 3: Carribean jerk chicken and rice with peas

Meal 4: Turkey Sandwich on whole wheat, baked lays, 1 banana, 1 nutri-grain bar, some sugar-free vanilla wafers

thats already down, this is on tap.....

Meal 5: Same exact thing as meal 4

Meal 6: preworkout, power bar and gatorade

Meal 7: 1lb of either chicken/fish/beef, some type of starch, a salad, a quart of milk

Meal 8: Shake with 48g whey, milk, egg beaters, oats, banana, peanut butter
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Jesus man. You make me jealous, I cannot wait until bulking begins again.
 
BiggT said:
I'm slow at work, so I will post up today's 'diet' as well.

Breakfast: 5 Jumbo eggs, 3 slices of whole wheat toast, 2 servings of oatmeal, 1 quart of skim milk.

Meal 2: 1 quart of skim milk

Meal 3: Carribean jerk chicken and rice with peas

Meal 4: Turkey Sandwich on whole wheat, baked lays, 1 banana, 1 nutri-grain bar, some sugar-free vanilla wafers

thats already down, this is on tap.....

Meal 5: Same exact thing as meal 4

Meal 6: preworkout, power bar and gatorade

Meal 7: 1lb of either chicken/fish/beef, some type of starch, a salad, a quart of milk

Meal 8: Shake with 48g whey, milk, egg beaters, oats, banana, peanut butter
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thats all??? LOL

your my hero!! :heart:
 
BiggT said:
I'm slow at work, so I will post up today's 'diet' as well.

Breakfast: 5 Jumbo eggs, 3 slices of whole wheat toast, 2 servings of oatmeal, 1 quart of skim milk.

Meal 2: 1 quart of skim milk

Meal 3: Carribean jerk chicken and rice with peas

Meal 4: Turkey Sandwich on whole wheat, baked lays, 1 banana, 1 nutri-grain bar, some sugar-free vanilla wafers

thats already down, this is on tap.....

Meal 5: Same exact thing as meal 4

Meal 6: preworkout, power bar and gatorade

Meal 7: 1lb of either chicken/fish/beef, some type of starch, a salad, a quart of milk

Meal 8: Shake with 48g whey, milk, egg beaters, oats, banana, peanut butter
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This is just 1 of biggt's snacks and he's on a cutting diet, when he says meal 1,2,3 ect. He really means that's the order in wich he ate his snack
 
I didn't train yesterday, I just felt dead.....I'll be going tonight to power snatch, front squat, and push press.

CS, I am gonna flat bench on Wed, and yes, I plan on some singles, I at least want 405 and then anything after that is just a bonus.

Proto, unless a product/supplement can offer a money back guarantee if it doesn't give you the 'gorilla build' within 3 weeks, I wouldn't try it.
 
BiggT said:
unless a product/supplement can offer a money back guarantee if it doesn't give you the 'gorilla build' within 3 weeks, I wouldn't try it.
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...there is one.


It's called Halofinatestin blend


LOL
 
The Shadow said:
...there is one.


It's called Halofinatestin blend


LOL
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lol, the funny thing is there probably IS actually a supplement with that name. Like those ones with the combo names of actual steroids at the nutrition stores complete with the pretend syringe, like DecaTestin or Equi-Durabolin, lol
 
BiggT said:
lol, the funny thing is there probably IS actually a supplement with that name. Like those ones with the combo names of actual steroids at the nutrition stores complete with the pretend syringe, like DecaTestin or Equi-Durabolin, lol
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egt this shit:


wo to bodybuilding.com


do a seach for ANAVAR...



they now have a suspplement named ANAVAR.....not alavar or ananar - no play on the name - a blatent rip on the trademarked name of Avavar(oxandrolone)


I was shocked to say the least
 
I will check it out for laughter purposes....That is pretty bad, usually they just rip off the non-copyrighted slang like 'dbol' or 'winnyV' lol.
 
BiggT said:
Proto, unless a product/supplement can offer a money back guarantee if it doesn't give you the 'gorilla build' within 3 weeks, I wouldn't try it.
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I had a girlfriend who had the gorilla build and all she did was eat a lot of cake, so maybe I'll try that.
 
AB... here's why...

Protobuilder said:
I had a boyfriend who had the gorilla build and all he did was eat a lot of cake, so maybe I'll try that.
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^^^ fixed :p


BiggT-Unit... I've hit 405x1 for DL in the past month (took forever to lock out... but I did it) and 405x2 was a PR for me this past winter. Have not been DLing conssitantly... I don't want to be too conservative with that (I think i'll be able to bump those numbers alot) so plugging 405x1 into the excel spread you think would be just fine for my general outline?
 
Sarge, I know you got the K message, but for anyone who was wondering, yeah, I suggested 405 as a good 1rm for him to plug in.

Trained today, a little change from my plan, but I will explain what I am doing for August at the end.

First, a story Proto will appreciate, on the way to the gym, I swung into the McDonald's drive-thru (NOT for food, lol) and got an iced coffee. I drove up the road about 2 miles or so to the gym and slammed the coffee. By the time I got to the gym, I was overcome with an intense yet quiet focus and great energy and concentration.....all for a dollar-something cup of cold coffee, lol.

Alright, to the workout....

Flat Bench: 135x10, 225x5, 300x5, 350x1, 385x1, 405x1 (happy at this point), 425x1 (blasted this up and tied my lifetime PR), 455x splat (lol, I got too greedy here and I thought 4 plates and a quarter per side just looked cool and I let my handoff guy, who was excellent by the way, pump me up a little too much and I was really thinking I was a lot stronger than I actually am, I took my handoff and the weight felt absolutely ridiculous, I lowered it all good, but I knew it wasn't coming back up, and it didn't budge.....I probably should have gone to 440 or so or even 435 to be safe if I really wanted to hit it, but fuck it, I am pleased enough with the 425)....finished off with 335x9

Standing Strict Behind the neck press: 185x5, 195x5, 205x5, 210x5, 215x5 (I did 2 sets at 215 last time, but after all the benching, I was more than satisfied with this)

Incline Dumbell Press: 100'sx12, 12, 8 (again, not QUITE as good as last time, but benching considered, I feel all is well)

And, to ruin a manly day in the weightroom.....Dumbell Skull Crushers: 55'sx 3 sets of 8 (WOW, if somebody blindfolded me and told me this was a pair of 80 pounders, I would have believed them, thats how freaking heavy these felt by this point in the workout....so like I always say, if anybody thinks that pressing isn't good 'triceps' work, they aren't pressing right, lol).

Weighed in at 253lbs....snapped a shitty post workout pic that I will get up here tonight or tomorrow.

My plan for August is to practice what I preach and fight the urge for variety to derail my progress, I'd rather be really good (for me) at a few things than be a jack of all trades and a master of none. I am going to train for a big flat bench, power snatch, olympic back squat, and behind-the-neck jerk or press or whatever the hell allows me to get more weight overhead than I ever have. Tomorrow is power snatches, squats, and some assistance work in the form of some type of pulling. If anybody wants a rough outline of what my August will look like, I'd be glad to share.
 
LMAO @ your pre workout "supplement" funny stuff

WHOA! ... bro I gotta ask ...how diz u buildz up dem sick gunnzzzz?!?!!! 1 arm DB reverse pec deck curls?!?!

Sick thickness bor :coffee:
 
Holy Jesus! As Tweakle would say, "Gun show!" LoL

BiggT said:
I'd rather be really good (for me) at a few things than be a jack of all trades and a master of none. I am going to train for a big flat bench, power snatch, olympic back squat, and behind-the-neck jerk or press or whatever the hell allows me to get more weight overhead than I ever have.
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More power to you. That's a nice selection of exercises to improve all in one cycle. LoL

455x splat
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Next time, try upping your dosage to 12 cups of coffee.
 
Congrats on 425! Pre-workout suppz and extra karma points are a powerful combination...

Looking forward to seeing the numbers you put up on those exercises.
 
When you hit that 425 in flat bench last time, were you as proficient in the olympic movements? Perhaps there was some sort of neural carryover that allowed you to hit that huge PR, clean too.

I saw the picture, and I hate to put it this way, but, "bro... you look swole".

What is your BTN jerk pr?
 
BiggT said:
My plan for August is to practice what I preach and fight the urge for variety to derail my progress, I'd rather be really good (for me) at a few things than be a jack of all trades and a master of none....... If anybody wants a rough outline of what my August will look like, I'd be glad to share.
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^^^ THAT, my friend is quality ...

BiggT, I really enjoy reading your log. Your willingness to want to help others, while kicking some major ass at the same time, is a GREAT and altruistic quality I truly admire. THANK YOU for taking the time to be so detailed & helpful. You are a valuable asset to this board.

Fantasic on the 425 x1.

Great pic BTW ... WOW :google:
 
As Tweakle would say, "Gun show!" LoL
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Sadly I can't take credit for that line, it's what a PT at my gym says to his clients before setting them off on a curl marathon.

425... damn, well I'm going to have to see what I can get this evening. Nice 'not being a pussy' workout & it's great having someone to chase :)
 
super_rice said:
When you hit that 425 in flat bench last time, were you as proficient in the olympic movements? Perhaps there was some sort of neural carryover that allowed you to hit that huge PR, clean too.

I saw the picture, and I hate to put it this way, but, "bro... you look swole".

What is your BTN jerk pr?
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This is the best I have ever been at the olympic lifts.....so it is possible there is some sort of neural carryover, I obviously can't say for sure, but it is definitely possible.

BTN Jerk PR is 315 with a snatch grip.
 
Today's workout....Wed. 8/2/06

Power Snatch: tons of warm-ups/overhead squats/squat snatches/various crap with the bar and then 135.....then the power snatches, 185x2, 195x2, 205x2, 215x2, 215x2

Back Squat: 135x10, 225x10, 315x5, 350x5, 395x5, 415x5, 420x5 (these felt fine....I will not hesitate to do some triples or singles on this day either in the future....other squat day on saturdays will be 5x5 with the same weight)

Chins: BWx 4 sets of 6 (haven't done these in a little bit, many more reps next time)

Overall a pretty good workout, off day tomorrow, then 5x5 flat bench and heavy BTN push presses on Friday.
 
Biggt, what kind of grip to you use on the snatch? On gaylehatch.com he says to grab your thumbs and I have been trying to do this and it is very uncomfortable.
 
fallingeggs said:
Biggt, what kind of grip to you use on the snatch? On gaylehatch.com he says to grab your thumbs and I have been trying to do this and it is very uncomfortable.
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Thats the hook grip....I use it on cleans and snatches and deadlifts too for that matter......if you don't use it on the olympic lifts, start ASAP.....the first try, it will hurt like hell and feel like the most ridiculous thing in the world, but you'll get used to it.....it makes grip a non-factor......For clean and snatch pulls, shrugs, and repetition work from the hang (if you don't have blocks or a rack to use) straps are fine........if you also wanted to know where I grip the bar, a snatch grip is generally when the bar is 6-8 inches above your head when locked out, so gauge by that, for me I grip collar to collar.
 
does the hook grip actually kill the nerves in your thumb after a while, or do you just man up and deal with the pain?

I find I lose my chinning groove so fast.. I'll be doing them with 100+ but then take a few weeks off and I struggle to make reps with BW when I come back

interesting workout format, you should post the whole template if you have the time
 
Tweakle said:
does the hook grip actually kill the nerves in your thumb after a while, or do you just man up and deal with the pain?
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this would be nice to know.

i have a cut on my thumb which stings like hell when i was getting sweat on it, so i am sure that is not helping the already new grip.
 
Tweakle said:
does the hook grip actually kill the nerves in your thumb after a while, or do you just man up and deal with the pain?

I find I lose my chinning groove so fast.. I'll be doing them with 100+ but then take a few weeks off and I struggle to make reps with BW when I come back

interesting workout format, you should post the whole template if you have the time
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With the hook grip, you just get used to it......I don't even want to say you just have to simply man up, because it really does stop causing discomfort over time. If it really is unbearable at first, it is fine to put some athletic tape around the thumbs, and SR might have to clarify this, but I even think athletic tape on the thumbs is allowed in olympic lifting at all levels.....but by the 3rd or 4th time using the hook grip it starts actually feeling comfortable.
 
nice lifts BigT,

have you ever had any shoulder injuries? i was deadlifting yesterday (435x4) and was going for the 5th and now my shoulder is killing me. Feels like i pulled it out or something.

ever happen to you? only askin because u bang big weight...
 
As for the template.....I am going to train for a big flat bench, power snatch, behind the neck jerk, and back squat. I am going to plan month to month....so for August, it'll look like this.....

Tuesday

Flat Bench : either 5x5 pyramid, 3x3 set weight, or 5 singles set weight

Strict Behind The Neck Press (Standing) 5x5 pyramid

Incline Dumbells (3 high rep sets in the 8-15 neighborhood)

Something for triceps

Wednesday

Power Snatch: 5 progressively heavy doubles, add 5lbs to top set each time

Olympic Back Squat: Same exact plan as Flat Bench

Chins: 4 sets of however many as I can do, if I get all 4 x 12 reps (which won't be in this lifetime) I'll add weight, but that won't be happening, lol.

Thursday

Use for a day of AR, I have access to an olympic distance pool now, so maybe a little swimming or incline walking or something.

Friday

Flat Bench: 5x5 with a set weight throughout, I don't really use %'s in my training, but for clarity's sake it'll be around 85% of my best 5....so 310x5x5 to start with.

Behind the Neck Push Press: 5 progressively heavy triples

Dumbell Flat: 3 higher rep sets (was gonna go with dips, but I don't want to pull my tits apart training the bench like this and have to abort)

Something for triceps

Saturday:

Power Snatch: Same deal as Wed, try to add 5lb each time.

Olympic Back Squat: 5x5 set weight, same approach as the bench.

Clean Pull OR Jump Shrug (I'll probably alternate, but more than likely clean pulls will be done much more often as I feel the heavy pulls from the floor transfer nicely to the DL when I choose to do them)

Something for biceps

Sunday: Some type of AR

Monday: total day off

Then in Sept I will make some adjustments, I'll probably do something like hold the Snatch weights constant all month, back the bench off to once a week and change BTN push presses to jerks.....not set in stone, but thats an example of how I'd tweak it for next month.
 
mm107 said:
nice lifts BigT,

have you ever had any shoulder injuries? i was deadlifting yesterday (435x4) and was going for the 5th and now my shoulder is killing me. Feels like i pulled it out or something.

ever happen to you? only askin because u bang big weight...
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Knock on wood, I've never had what I'd consider an injury.....they've definitely been banged up over the years and I have definitely needed to give them a breather, but never had an injury to them really.....I honestly attribute it to my relatively narrow pressing grips, the only thing I do wide are the BTN jerks with a snatch grip, but there is no ressing out of the weight there, so it saves the shoulders. Plus, also I think stabalizing a bar behind the head in a snatch grip and full range behind the neck work is very healthy for the shoulders and the flexibility helps keep them healthy.

It sounds like you have one of those little 'banged up' kind of things, I've had a million and one of them, lol....common sense is the best medicine for them.
 
BiggT said:
Knock on wood, I've never had what I'd consider an injury.....they've definitely been banged up over the years and I have definitely needed to give them a breather, but never had an injury to them really.....I honestly attribute it to my relatively narrow pressing grips, the only thing I do wide are the BTN jerks with a snatch grip, but there is no ressing out of the weight there, so it saves the shoulders. Plus, also I think stabalizing a bar behind the head in a snatch grip and full range behind the neck work is very healthy for the shoulders and the flexibility helps keep them healthy.

It sounds like you have one of those little 'banged up' kind of things, I've had a million and one of them, lol....common sense is the best medicine for them.
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LOL true, yea i feel banged up. Fuckin lost the battle to the bar. lol

But im taking off till monday, will do some misc work for hip/groin muscles but nothing were im lifting any weight at all. just lower body
 
i've been attempting hook grip on DLs. so for some reason i'm comfortable with my left hand grip (underhand) but not with my right hand (overhand)...
 
silver_shadow said:
i've been attempting hook grip on DLs. so for some reason i'm comfortable with my left hand grip (underhand) but not with my right hand (overhand)...
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Don't hook grip on over/under....the over/under eliminates the need for it anyway, the advantage to double overhand is the bar stays closer to the body and there is less tendency for torquing and all. It is tough to get used to on deads because the weight is relatively so much greater than the o-lifts......give it a go on cleans and snatches first....or just use it up to 315 or so at first on deads, you'll adjust within a month.
 
BiggT said:
Don't hook grip on over/under....the over/under eliminates the need for it anyway, the advantage to double overhand is the bar stays closer to the body and there is less tendency for torquing and all. It is tough to get used to on deads because the weight is relatively so much greater than the o-lifts......give it a go on cleans and snatches first....or just use it up to 315 or so at first on deads, you'll adjust within a month.
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yea, the reason i started it was because the over grip itself would start to get a little hairy on heavier weights. so it looks like i have 2 options: work on grip or switch completely to over/over with a hook? right now i usually work up to around 300 or 315 with a over/over hook - it feels ok for a few reps but starts to get uncomfortable after maybe 2-3 reps.
 
Yeah, those are really the only two options.....just be patient with the hook, it'll come.....I honestly don't know how I ever pulled without it now, but when you first start using it, it really is ridiculous and so painful that you actually think you did something wrong......it does get comfy is time though.

I saw a video of Brad Gillingham deadlifting 800lbs with a hook grip......so I figure if he could do that, I could do my weenie weights with it.
 
Another quick question on the hook grip. Do you place your fingers over the joint of the thumb or just a little ahead of it? My grip feels more secure over the joint, but it really does feel as though I'm going to break something. It's good enough just ahead of the joint, so that's what I've been using up to now, but I'm wondering if I'm missing out.
 
The funny thing about the hook grip is that I find my hand strength has actually decreased from using it so often. I have trouble hanging onto even 140 with a regular grip whereas in the pats this would have been a non-issue. Do you guys find any value in training grip strength when the hook grip is available?
 
super_rice said:
The funny thing about the hook grip is that I find my hand strength has actually decreased from using it so often. I have trouble hanging onto even 140 with a regular grip whereas in the pats this would have been a non-issue. Do you guys find any value in training grip strength when the hook grip is available?
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I do, but not so much for training value.....just for having a good grip. I'm not gonna be double overhand gripping a barbell without using the hook grip.....but still, a strong grip is great to have......just even at family functions when somebody sees you're a 'big guy' and they try to give you the tough guy handshake and you can mash their hand for acting like a moron, lol.
 
Yeah... I think it bay be wise to invest in some CoC grippers or do some plate pinches and stuff. It's enough that I'm a little asian dude, but to have the handshake of one is perhaps too much :)

BiggT said:
I do, but not so much for training value.....just for having a good grip. I'm not gonna be double overhand gripping a barbell without using the hook grip.....but still, a strong grip is great to have......just even at family functions when somebody sees you're a 'big guy' and they try to give you the tough guy handshake and you can mash their hand for acting like a moron, lol.
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BiggT said:
I do, but not so much for training value.....just for having a good grip. I'm not gonna be double overhand gripping a barbell without using the hook grip.....but still, a strong grip is great to have......just even at family functions when somebody sees you're a 'big guy' and they try to give you the tough guy handshake and you can mash their hand for acting like a moron, lol.
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I find that's pretty much a lose-lose situation. Obviously, you can't let him get away with it but, if you give him too much pastie in return, he can get away with the 'hurt by the big bully weight lifter' routine.

I cringed once when one of my friends shook hands with a female hockey player and pretty much every joint in his hand went pop. I think everyone that was in the room still remembers it.
 
i like hanging from the pullup bar or holding a heavy barbell for as long as possible to strengthen my grip except that lately i've been trying to finish workouts too quick and neglecting grip training.

i hate it when the idiot at family reunions tries to give me the tough guy handshake and ends up gripping my fingers rather then hand... then he walks off imagining he crushed my "wimpy" hand.
 
silver_shadow said:
i like hanging from the pullup bar or holding a heavy barbell for as long as possible to strengthen my grip except that lately i've been trying to finish workouts too quick and neglecting grip training.

i hate it when the idiot at family reunions tries to give me the tough guy handshake and ends up gripping my fingers rather then hand... then he walks off imagining he crushed my "wimpy" hand.
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wrap a towel around the chin bar
 
mm107 said:
lol @ THE WUSSIE HANDSHAKE lol

I got the CoC gripper #3, and i cant close it all the way but halfway is enough. My grip gets worked from heavy deads and such, but its always good to have a GREAT gripper lying around. Mine is on my desk at work...
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I love it when the guys I work with mistake a COC for one of those Sears brought grippers... watching their little faces turn red as they try to close it is priceless ;)
 
silver_shadow said:
i hate it when the idiot at family reunions tries to give me the tough guy handshake and ends up gripping my fingers rather then hand... then he walks off imagining he crushed my "wimpy" hand.
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That is the worst. They apply the squeeze early, before you've locked palms, and they mash your fingers. LoL then you have to wait for an opportunity to shake their hand again so you can show them who's boss. LoL I'm mostly kidding but it is a crappy thing to do to a guy. LoL

I've got the CoC trainer & no. 1. I can close the no. 1 about 5 times but that's it. Jesse Marunde could close the number 3 when he was only 19. We suck. LoL
 
Friday 8/4/06

Flat Bench: 135x15, 225x10, 315x5x5

Behind The Neck Push Press: 185x5, 225x3, 240x3, 250x3, 260x3, 265x3

Flat Dumbell Bench: 95sx15, 14, 12

Dumbell Skullcrushers: 55sx 10-10-10

Good night, felt real energized and flew threw everything.
 
Saturday 8/5/06

Power Snatch: lots of warm-ups, 135x2, 185x2, 195x2, 205x2, 210x2, 215x2, 220x2

Back Squat: 135x10, 225x10, 315x5, 365x1, 5x5x375 (no belt)

Snatch-Grip Deadlift: 225x3, 315x3, 405x3, 465x3x3 (hook grip, no straps, no belt)

Jump Shrug: 315x8, 405x8, 455x8, 505x8 (straps, no belt)

Hammer Curl: 50sx8, 55sx8, 60sx8, 65sx8
 
Nice to see such awesomeness after a day of DB bench & skulls. LoL

Heavy triple snatch-grip deads after squats . . . that doesn't bother your lower back or anything? That's hard work. I did high-rep snatch-grip deads once for conditioning and my lower back was unhappy for several days.

Also, why such small jumps on the power snatch? Are you eeking out PRs there or what?
 
Protobuilder said:
Nice to see such awesomeness after a day of DB bench & skulls. LoL

Heavy triple snatch-grip deads after squats . . . that doesn't bother your lower back or anything? That's hard work. I did high-rep snatch-grip deads once for conditioning and my lower back was unhappy for several days.

Also, why such small jumps on the power snatch? Are you eeking out PRs there or what?
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Thanks, PB.....yeah, I do notice lower back fatigue, but nothing thats severe or hurts, so I just do the DLs.....by the last set I was feeling pretty wasted though. We'll see tomorrow the extent of the damage, lol.

With the power snatch, I am doing 5 doubles, twice a week, adding 5lbs each time to the top set, so thats 10lbs a week, hopefully 40lbs more my last double after August is over.....then I would like to take that weight and do it for 9 singles, both days in Sept.....then push it with increases in Oct.
 
sgtslaughter said:
What'd ya get for toppings :)

I stuck with the original plan :Chef:
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pepperoni and bbq chicken.....honestly, it screwed the whole thing up, lol....next time I am not fucking with it and I'll just get it plain
 
BiggT said:
pepperoni and bbq chicken.....honestly, it screwed the whole thing up, lol....next time I am not fucking with it and I'll just get it plain
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hehe... I got 1 sample pepperoni slice cuz I've never tried it from the place. It was shitty! I hope you went back and ordered a plain pie to go ;)

WOW! Nice DB bench work high reppin' the big boy DB's :evil:

Do you "deload" the BTN PP's between reps?

Are there specific ways in which the varing grips for deadlifts affect one's back? Like you did snatch there (wide to collar grip right?).... curious if it's just preference or training specific.
 
sgtslaughter said:
hehe... I got 1 sample pepperoni slice cuz I've never tried it from the place. It was shitty! I hope you went back and ordered a plain pie to go ;)

WOW! Nice DB bench work high reppin' the big boy DB's :evil:

Do you "deload" the BTN PP's between reps?

Are there specific ways in which the varing grips for deadlifts affect one's back? Like you did snatch there (wide to collar grip right?).... curious if it's just preference or training specific.
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Thanks, Sarge. Yes, I deload the PPs between reps.

About the grip on deads, a snatch grip means that if the bar were over your head, it would be 6-8 inches above your head. For me, thats collar to collar, I would imagine you'd have to go collar to collar as well. Snatch grip is definitely harder in my opinion. I feel it taxes the upper back more, and also the spinal erectors, as it is almost impossible to not round a little unless you use token weights....I am not really pushing them this cycle, but if I am careful not to let them burry me, I can see them helping my snatch, and I am gonna be honest at the risk of sounding gay, I do like having big traps, lol, so I like to pull with bigger weights, and relatively the power snatches are very, very light compared to what I can pull to overload my back with.
 
LMAO @ the big traps = :rainbow:ish comment.

NOT gay at all bro... i love my traps too :verygood:

Cool, ok... was just double checkin' on the PP's :coffee:

I love snatch, err I mean snatch grippin' ... errrr grippin an OLY bar with a snatch specific grip... *in the gutter today don't mind me*

Very cool... good to know, thanks for enlightening me... I think i'm going to go with slightly more than shoulder width for my deads, not to wide and not too narrow (and deff. not sumo... although they're fun sometimes).
 
Admiring big traps is the complete opposite of :rainbow: Unless you're mentioning them in passing as you discuss the trap/rear delt tie-in. That is instant :rainbow: And if you mention symmetry or balance, you're starting to cross the line.

Big monster traps are the epitome of awesomeness. There is no symmetry or balance to discuss. A yoke is a yoke.
 
Update.....took Sun and Mon off, hadn't taken 2 days in a row off in a while.....came in yesterday to bench and had some issues......

Starting warming up, and just didn't feel right....tendons felt a little tired etc, plus I got sunburned pretty bad on Sun, and I was uncomfortable on the bench.

Flat Bench: 135x15, 225x15, 315x5, 375x3 (none were as easy as I expected them to be, but no problems up to this point).....375x2 (supposed to be 3, on 3rd rep, I squirmed a little and lost tightness in my upper back cause the sunburn rubbed against the bench wrong, lol....so my elbows flared, I lost my groove, and missed the 3rd rep)....my right shoulder was killing me at this point, so I called it a night. Today it is sore, but not injured, no problems with ROM or anything, just a real pain in the ass....but I will rest it for a few days and go from there.
 
sucks about the shoulder, and you notice it always happens when you're on a roll with pressing? ice for that non-team playing joint
 
Looks like we can add spending time in the sun to bowling and playing catch on the "seemingly innocuous stuff that will screw up our lifting" list.

Good to hear that it's not serious...
 
Yeah, Tweakle, I iced it last night on an off for a good bit.

It is one of those things thats happened probably 50 times over the last 15 years, very annoying and yeah, it always seems to happen when you hit a stride.
 
i feel ya bro, always somethin annoying that comes up when ur in a groove...I was doing so well on squats and strained my left hip flexor bout 6 weeks ago and its still nagging me...aint gonna stop me tho haha
 
i got a question for you biggt, if i press out the last 2 inches of a power snatch is that a missed lift?

Also, correct me if I am wrong, when I am pulling the bar (past the hang and before the ducking under) there should be a good amount of ‘swinging’ with the back to toss the weight up and the arms are ropes that should stay fairly straight (but with a slight bend).

p.s. I should figure out the correct terminology.
 
fallingeggs said:
i got a question for you biggt, if i press out the last 2 inches of a power snatch is that a missed lift?

Also, correct me if I am wrong, when I am pulling the bar (past the hang and before the ducking under) there should be a good amount of ‘swinging’ with the back to toss the weight up and the arms are ropes that should stay fairly straight (but with a slight bend).

p.s. I should figure out the correct terminology.
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Yeah, thats a miss if you press out a snatch at all.

For the 2nd part of your question, you're talking about the final pull.....you don't want to 'swing your back' to create momentum, what you want to do to generate momentum is to do a jump shrug, don't pull with the arms, but let them act as ropes by relaxing them and when the bar reaches about belly button height, pull yourself underneath it.
 
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WoNderWoMan25 said:
kinda quiet around here ... you training, or are you just eating? ;) :chomp:

seriously, how is the shoulder?
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Just eating, lol....

the shoulder is 100 times better, it doesn't bother me at all in day to day life, so I will most likely give it 1 more day just to be on the safe side so nothing nagging comes out of it.
 
I've determined that nagging injuries are pretty much part of the game and that they come with long-term lifting and heavy weights (actually they might acompany a typicaly sedentary life style too, but since I do not live one I cannot say for sure).

Just keep eating (which I'm sure you don't need to be reminded to LOL, your not JKurz) and things will be just fine.
 
Trained yesterday and today....no real plan, just wanted to lift.....yesterday just trying to test things out, I inclined and hit 225x26, which cements home that flat bench carries over to incline for me, but the reverse never was true, I just did some dumbell skulls and called it a day.

Today, Sun. 8/13/06

Power Clean....lots of warm-ups, 185x1, 225x1, 265x3x3, 285x1, 305x1, 315x1

Back Squat......225x5, 315x5, 385x5x5, 420x1, 475x1

Deadlift (conventional and hook-grip).....405x8, 455x8, 495x8, 495x8 (on the last 2 reps of the last set, my nose started to gush blood, I finished the set anyway) then I layed down on a bench and tried to compose myself, my left ear was also ringing for about 30 seconds too, lol.......after a couple minutes I got up, then went into the locker room to puke......all in all an awesome workout......oh yeah, the last several reps of the 495 sets, my back rounded, so next week I will drop down to a pair of pink dumbells and really work on 'form' and squeezing and feeling the weight, lol.

Power Clean
 
BiggT said:
Trained yesterday and today....no real plan, just wanted to lift.....yesterday just trying to test things out, I inclined and hit 225x26, which cements home that flat bench carries over to incline for me, but the reverse never was true, I just did some dumbell skulls and called it a day.

Today, Sun. 8/13/06

Power Clean....lots of warm-ups, 185x1, 225x1, 265x3x3, 285x1, 305x1, 315x1

Back Squat......225x5, 315x5, 385x5x5, 420x1, 475x1

Deadlift (conventional and hook-grip).....405x8, 455x8, 495x8, 495x8 (on the last 2 reps of the last set, my nose started to gush blood, I finished the set anyway) then I layed down on a bench and tried to compose myself, my left ear was also ringing for about 30 seconds too, lol.......after a couple minutes I got up, then went into the locker room to puke......all in all an awesome workout......oh yeah, the last several reps of the 495 sets, my back rounded, so next week I will drop down to a pair of pink dumbells and really work on 'form' and squeezing and feeling the weight, lol.

Power Clean
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Now thats the log of a warrior!
 
Uh, damn...I was doing 8-rep deads on my last program but never had anything that interesting happen.

Also, assuming that you left a blood-spattered bar with 495 on it for someone else to unload/clean (lol, not that kind of clean) in the middle of the gym, you may want to check with PB about BRRTTS Administration eligibility.
 
BiggT said:
Trained yesterday and today....no real plan, just wanted to lift.....yesterday just trying to test things out, I inclined and hit 225x26, which cements home that flat bench carries over to incline for me, but the reverse never was true, I just did some dumbell skulls and called it a day.

Today, Sun. 8/13/06

Power Clean....lots of warm-ups, 185x1, 225x1, 265x3x3, 285x1, 305x1, 315x1

Back Squat......225x5, 315x5, 385x5x5, 420x1, 475x1

Deadlift (conventional and hook-grip).....405x8, 455x8, 495x8, 495x8 (on the last 2 reps of the last set, my nose started to gush blood, I finished the set anyway) then I layed down on a bench and tried to compose myself, my left ear was also ringing for about 30 seconds too, lol.......after a couple minutes I got up, then went into the locker room to puke......all in all an awesome workout......oh yeah, the last several reps of the 495 sets, my back rounded, so next week I will drop down to a pair of pink dumbells and really work on 'form' and squeezing and feeling the weight, lol.

Power Clean
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GO BIGGT GO​

Great job!
 
Yup that is some awesome pulling, doing it after the cleans and squatting is even more impressive.

never had a nose bleed from deads, but the puke thing is a timeless classic :D nice!
 
BiggT said:
on the last 2 reps of the last set, my nose started to gush blood, I finished the set anyway
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sweet geezus man ... Too bad I would have loved to see that though :D
Pretty sick workout biggT :)
 
Monday 8/14/06

Felt really good today, I actually batted around the idea of front squats, but after yesterday I decided to hold off on them another day.......had a great workout though, a Doug Hepburn-inspired press workout......

Strict Standing OHP: 135x5, 185x1, 225x1, 230x 6 singles (these were a little too easy), 215x 5 triples, no problem here either

Barbell Curl: 120x 4 sets of 12........THEN, I may have just undone yesterday's puke and nosebleed fest, and today's press workout from the 1950s .....after the last set of curls, I hit a front double biceps in front of the gym mirror, lol.

All in all a great workout though........I weighed in at 252, down a pound despite eating a 1/2 tray of brownies over the last 2 days.
 
BiggT said:
I hit a front double biceps in front of the gym mirror, lol.
despite eating a 1/2 tray of brownies over the last 2 days.
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You broke Rule # 2 - part b, section 6 of the "Anti - A&F Lifter Code" by throwin' up the front double bi... IN the gym :lmao:

brownies :chomp: They fueled your diesel pressing workout :)


"BiggT - Powered by Brownies"
 
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