Protobuilder said:How heavy are those clean pulls for you? When you do them, do your thighs get pretty smoked?
ChinkNasty said:hey biggt, on those snatch jerks you pretty much start with the weight on your back like a squat almost and then instead of 'pushing' it up like a press you just almost snap your arms up and drive under it? (almost like snapping under the weight?)
i never really got the diff. btw. a jerk and a press (I understand a split jerk but not a reg. jerk...)
BiggT said:Thats exactly a jerk, it's a dip and drive, it is a dip similar to a push press, but then you drive under the bar and catch it at full arms' extension, there is no pressing out.
I have always been a power jerker, it just felt more natural to me from the beginning. I learned how to split jerk first, then in training tried the power jerk and I could handle a lot more weight and I just felt more comfortable with them....generally, split jerking is preferred as in competition it would allow the lifter more room for error because you can make adjustments easier in mid-lift and power jerkers tend to get called a lot for pressing out, but on an individual basis some people are just suited better to one style or another, I just prefer the power jerk, I am more of a stronger/faster lifter than I am a technically perfect lifter, so they work for me......If you start jerking, definitely learn the split jerk, it teaches the 'dip and drive' better in my opinion, then experiment with power jerks after you already know the lift and see what you think.....One thing I will NEVER be able to do in this lifetime is squat jerk, the Chinese National Team is loaded with squat jerkers, it blows my mind even thinking about it.
BiggT said:Yeah, a squat jerk is paralell or lower, many go ATF. Squat jerkers have very supple shoulders and are usually your lighter lifters who aren't very strong in the upper body. Personally, I wouldn't suggest anybody who split/power jerks to try to gain the shoulder suppleness to do these as the loss of pressing strength wouldn't be worth it and the net gains probably wouldn't work in your favor......however, for competitors who can't jerk their cleans, they are a life-saver.
I've actually seen a couple of girls squat jerk at a little private gym I'd go to on occasion to use bumper plates, they were cool, they would tell me my technique sucks and I would tell them they were as weak as the day is long, all in good fun though.
asdfzxcv said:Personally,my number one problem when it comes to attempting jerks is the speed factor.I can get under a clean pretty fast and catch in a low position but I get psyched out when it comes to the jerk.It turns into a botched push press rather then a smooth dip under the bar.Do you know of any specific cues to get the form right or is it just a matter of practising it until it comes?
*Bunny* said:/estro jack ...
you keepin' up with that waxin' there big guy?
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So I've seen ... since you brought it up ... this post isBiggT said:Absolutely....and if you're wondering, I must say I am a pretty lean 250, lol.
*Bunny* said:/estro jack ...
you keepin' up with that waxin' there big guy?
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silver_shadow said:hey what happened to that kid who took pics of you jerking 305 & 310? i guess he hasn't replied?
que_66 said:1) Only on EF can guys talk about "power jerking" & keep a straight face.![]()
Tweakle said:those are great bench #'s - you planning on maxing out anytime to see what you've got? I'd guess 425 at least
putting on size really does make pressing more fun![]()
BiggT said:You can say that about size and pressing again, I hate pressing at lighter bodyweights, so I learned to enjoy it as much as I can while I am heavy.
BiggT said:c3BB, I'm up for a buffet anytime. 36drew, I'm the same way, weight loss doesn't effect my squats either I think because with olympic and front squats, you don't depend on leverage and counterbalance and pushing off the midsection as a PL squat.
The last couple days, I did hang cleans to 330x1, and I did a track workout with 6 100s at about 80%. My spinal erectors on the right side have been a little sore, I think it is just muscular strain, nothing I haven't done before. I am feeling really good today though, and plan to jerk, push press, squat, and pull this weekend.
I wasn't gonna bother posting that except as an aside note to my next workout, but I see the journal has a disproportionatly more views than posts, so I figure a lot of people check in or 'lurk' and if this can help them out, then I want to post. A lot of guys start a 'program' and hit a bump in the road and are like "now what" and they scrap everything and overhaul and are always doing something new.....I just want to show how to properly handle the unexpected with training and that programs are just snapshots in time, and you just keep on pushing the goal lifts however and whenever you can.

"Hi, My name is Sarge and I have a problem... I'm a BiggT Log Lurker."BiggT said:The last couple days, I did hang cleans to 330x1, and I did a track workout with 6 100s at about 80%. My spinal erectors on the right side have been a little sore, I think it is just muscular strain, nothing I haven't done before. I am feeling really good today though, and plan to jerk, push press, squat, and pull this weekend.
I wasn't gonna bother posting that except as an aside note to my next workout, but I see the journal has a disproportionatly more views than posts, so I figure a lot of people check in or 'lurk' and if this can help them out, then I want to post. A lot of guys start a 'program' and hit a bump in the road and are like "now what" and they scrap everything and overhaul and are always doing something new.....I just want to show how to properly handle the unexpected with training and that programs are just snapshots in time, and you just keep on pushing the goal lifts however and whenever you can.
I like all the views I get too... it's kinda coolBiggT said:I like all the views, lol.....yeah, Sarge, that could very well be the problem, I am gonna call to schedule a massage soon (a legit massage, not a hooker, I want to note before protobuilder and blitz chime in there, lol)

sgtslaughter said:Someone say Buffet?
"Hi, My name is Sarge and I have a problem... I'm a BiggT Log Lurker."
You're very inspiring bro... lots of people just watching your progress and what you do, ect.![]()
I know what you mean about more views than posts ... check out my log![]()
1 sided soreness with the erectors aye? If it's not attributable to the workout... it could be compensating for a tight muscle that needs streching. Something similar happend to me involving my hip flexors... them beotches were tight as crap.
EDIT: What MM said, lol.... quick bastard!
BiggT said:Lifted yesterday and today.....I thought yesterday sucked at the time, but it wasn't bad in retrospect.
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Felt like a million dollars today. Since Fri, I've had 2 and a half gallons of milk too.
WoNderWoMan25 said:Good morning... Glad to hear that milk still does a body good.![]()

Lifting weights is a very dangerous activity and one should seek doctoral advice prior to exerting one's self to any strenous activitiesProtobuilder said:Here's the real question: does BiggT even workout anymore? LoL Post 'em up!

Ok, me too... I agree completlyBiggT said:Thanks petpre....a video camera is on my to-buy list, lol
Sarge, without a doubt I perform better with a warm-up. I feel cold and tight if I don't warm-up. Even after a heavy squat workout, if I do a back-off set of 10, I can use much more weight than if I just came in and worked up to a set of 10.
For your example, I feel strongest at the end after some work. With cleans, I won't even begin the work sets until I am sweating and I have gotten myself into a nice groove. I never blow my load so to speak in warm-ups, like I won't bench 225 to failure and then do my working sets, but I am a big fan of properly warming up.

I LOVE Cleans... I forget which one's I do though... too many damn names. Clean to front squat and up is like cardio after a few reps, lol.BiggT said:Sarge, you'd like olympic lifting, you're pretty well worked before you even get to the squat rack.
Deff... smart man.BiggT said:but I didn't want to do something stupid, so I didn't go crazy wit hthe squats. That was it, in and out quickly, much more weight next time so long as I feel 100%
*Bunny* said:NiceRoughly around 6 ft? @ 251?
Great job on the PR .
Sorry to jack your thread.. giving props![]()
Thanks bor!BiggT said:Thats a very respectable clean, Sarge
Lifted this evening....Tues. 7/18/06
Horizontal Champ's Special (Flat Bench, lol)....135x15, 225x5, 295x5, 325x5, 345x5, 355x5, 365x5 (drug-free 5 rep PR), 325x9
Dips: bodyweightx 20, 18, 18, 14 (triceps were shot)
Good night at the gym, flat bench feels really strong these days, weighed in somewhere between 250-251, the scale couldn't decide.
Congrats on the PR!!Protobuilder said:Very nice. Now you need to start wearing a rubber shirt and growing a bench belly. Pretty soon, you'll be a true athlete.
So, did close grip benching last cycle boost your flat bench PR? Or is it just b/c you're finally training it again (e.g., linear progress)? I think next cycle, I'll run close grip bench & OHP and see if it doesn't boost my flat bench. Working low inclines did absolutely nothing; I still haven't got my bench PR back.
WoNderWoMan25 said:hey big guy.... congrats on the PR!! I know that I am pretty pumped to be able to say that my absolute max flat bench is exactly what you warm up with, lol...
And the dentist
I don't care how strong y'all are, most will admit that you're still scared of the drill. I need to go (while I still have dental coverage) and I'm not even looking forward to the cleaning part of it.
super_rice said:Biggt, do you have access to a bar that spins to do your cleans? Or are you twice the beast/ogre that I already thought you were by doing cleans with a crappy fitness gym bar?
Congrats on the PR mang
que_66 said:So the pr is 365 flat bench press??
I weigh 152.5 and that is 2.39 times my body weight.
Goooooo BiggT!!!!!!!![]()
Tweakle said:not to join the gay parade or anything but those curls are the most impressive part of the workout155 x 8 is great.. I wish

BiggT said:lol...I am just gonna stop calling benching and curling gay, I realized that I am in total denial of the fact that I love doing both lifts.
Protobuilder said:The only thing missing are some DB flies.
Protobuilder said:And Emulsifier 3.0. You can't make a big training w/out Emulsifier 3.0!!!1!
Protobuilder said:LoL Nice story. It's even worse that he's doing that in an empty gym. Did he act like a dick to you or was he decent after you helped him up? LoL
Good to see your pressing is "clicking." What do you think's going on? Just happens that way sometimes or what?
your like joey from friends... i believe you're italian american tooBiggT said:Also want to note, I went to a Japanese restaurant last night and on Sundays they have an all you can eat Sushi special, and I pretty much shut the place down, the staff was actually getting annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop, lol.
BiggT said:I have trained the same couple things consistently and not strayed off much and varied my training too much, and the subtitiutions are 'like lifts' for 3 or 4 weeks and I seem to have gained legit strength after the reacclimation process and all.
BiggT said:Also want to note, I went to a Japanese restaurant last night and on Sundays they have an all you can eat Sushi special, and I pretty much shut the place down, the staff was actually getting annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop, lol.
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