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Goal: Jacked inner pecs and thunderous biceps

Very nice pressing.

You should tell that guy to print off a few 8 x 11 semi gloss and you'll sign them for him, lol.
 
Trained Thurs and just did some hang cleans, nothing spectacular.

Had a good weekend of lifting though.

Saturday 7/8/06

Snatch-grip b-t-n Jerk (yes, I just did these Wed, but I feel more room for improvement, plus they aren't too taxing)....bunch of warm-ups with 45 and 135, 185x1, 225x1, 255x1, 275x1, 295x1, 305x1, 310x1, 310x1

Push Press (to the front): 185x5, 225x5, 255x5, 265x5, 265x4 (I just gassed on the last rep, weight wasn't much of an issue)

Dips: 3 sets of 20 with bodyweight


Sunday 7/9/06

Front Squat: 135x10, 225x10, 295x5x5

Clean Pull: 225x3, 275x3, 300x3, 335x3, 365x3

Jump Shrug: 365x12, 405x12, 455x12

Good day, a good weekend all around, I got a lot of sleep and ate a lot of calories. I decided that I will deadlift every other week, I am just not an every single week deadlifter unless I am really not pushing them.
 
Protobuilder said:
How heavy are those clean pulls for you? When you do them, do your thighs get pretty smoked?

They're pretty heavy I'd say, I PROBABLY could have gone to a triple at 385, any heavier than that and I would more than likely be looking at some form breakdowns or lack of explosion.....they really don't bother my thighs too much, I never do them fresh, it's either after squats or cleans or sometimes both, so maybe I mistake it for simple fatigue from the other lifts....the bar brushes my thighs, if thats what you mean, it only bothers me after a layoff from cleaning.
 
I've been wanting to do them for quite a while and I'm finally going to do them on Monday's instead of rowing. I wanted to do some more pulling from the floor, get a little more trap work, and just continue trying to improve my leg/hip/back strength. When I've done them in the past, my start position is diff't than a deadlift start (which it should be, b/c it's a "clean" pull) and my thighs get pretty tired from 'em. But, I'm a bit worried that my thighs will get too MUCH work doing clean pulls on Mondays after my 5x5 squat work.
 
nah, you'll be fine...maybe at first you'll notice some more fatigue, but it is perfectly do-able, you'll adjust to the workload as long as it's managed well, if anything they add fatigue the same way a deadlift or pull from the floor does, I never found them to really overtax my legs and effect squats.
 
Monday 7/10/06

Decline Situps: bodyweight x 20, bodyweight + 45lb plate x 2 sets of 20

Barbell Curls: 95x5, 115x5, 125x5, 140x5, 150x5, 125x 3 sets of 8

Treadmill : 15 minutes of walking/jogging/incline walking

This was really just a little recovery workout, I hate taking total days off unless i need it mentally because I tend to come back feeling like a stiff chunk of crap. I'm benchin' tomorrow, and if I feel good, I'd like to hit something big for a single.
 
hey biggt, on those snatch jerks you pretty much start with the weight on your back like a squat almost and then instead of 'pushing' it up like a press you just almost snap your arms up and drive under it? (almost like snapping under the weight?)

i never really got the diff. btw. a jerk and a press (I understand a split jerk but not a reg. jerk...)
 
ChinkNasty said:
hey biggt, on those snatch jerks you pretty much start with the weight on your back like a squat almost and then instead of 'pushing' it up like a press you just almost snap your arms up and drive under it? (almost like snapping under the weight?)

i never really got the diff. btw. a jerk and a press (I understand a split jerk but not a reg. jerk...)

Thats exactly a jerk, it's a dip and drive, it is a dip similar to a push press, but then you drive under the bar and catch it at full arms' extension, there is no pressing out.

I have always been a power jerker, it just felt more natural to me from the beginning. I learned how to split jerk first, then in training tried the power jerk and I could handle a lot more weight and I just felt more comfortable with them....generally, split jerking is preferred as in competition it would allow the lifter more room for error because you can make adjustments easier in mid-lift and power jerkers tend to get called a lot for pressing out, but on an individual basis some people are just suited better to one style or another, I just prefer the power jerk, I am more of a stronger/faster lifter than I am a technically perfect lifter, so they work for me......If you start jerking, definitely learn the split jerk, it teaches the 'dip and drive' better in my opinion, then experiment with power jerks after you already know the lift and see what you think.....One thing I will NEVER be able to do in this lifetime is squat jerk, the Chinese National Team is loaded with squat jerkers, it blows my mind even thinking about it.
 
BiggT said:
Thats exactly a jerk, it's a dip and drive, it is a dip similar to a push press, but then you drive under the bar and catch it at full arms' extension, there is no pressing out.

I have always been a power jerker, it just felt more natural to me from the beginning. I learned how to split jerk first, then in training tried the power jerk and I could handle a lot more weight and I just felt more comfortable with them....generally, split jerking is preferred as in competition it would allow the lifter more room for error because you can make adjustments easier in mid-lift and power jerkers tend to get called a lot for pressing out, but on an individual basis some people are just suited better to one style or another, I just prefer the power jerk, I am more of a stronger/faster lifter than I am a technically perfect lifter, so they work for me......If you start jerking, definitely learn the split jerk, it teaches the 'dip and drive' better in my opinion, then experiment with power jerks after you already know the lift and see what you think.....One thing I will NEVER be able to do in this lifetime is squat jerk, the Chinese National Team is loaded with squat jerkers, it blows my mind even thinking about it.

Just a question,what is the difference between a power jerk and a squat jerk?In the squat jerk does the lifter go deeper into the squat position then a power jerk?
 
Yeah, a squat jerk is paralell or lower, many go ATF. Squat jerkers have very supple shoulders and are usually your lighter lifters who aren't very strong in the upper body. Personally, I wouldn't suggest anybody who split/power jerks to try to gain the shoulder suppleness to do these as the loss of pressing strength wouldn't be worth it and the net gains probably wouldn't work in your favor......however, for competitors who can't jerk their cleans, they are a life-saver.

I've actually seen a couple of girls squat jerk at a little private gym I'd go to on occasion to use bumper plates, they were cool, they would tell me my technique sucks and I would tell them they were as weak as the day is long, all in good fun though.
 
BiggT said:
Yeah, a squat jerk is paralell or lower, many go ATF. Squat jerkers have very supple shoulders and are usually your lighter lifters who aren't very strong in the upper body. Personally, I wouldn't suggest anybody who split/power jerks to try to gain the shoulder suppleness to do these as the loss of pressing strength wouldn't be worth it and the net gains probably wouldn't work in your favor......however, for competitors who can't jerk their cleans, they are a life-saver.

I've actually seen a couple of girls squat jerk at a little private gym I'd go to on occasion to use bumper plates, they were cool, they would tell me my technique sucks and I would tell them they were as weak as the day is long, all in good fun though.

Personally,my number one problem when it comes to attempting jerks is the speed factor.I can get under a clean pretty fast and catch in a low position but I get psyched out when it comes to the jerk.It turns into a botched push press rather then a smooth dip under the bar.Do you know of any specific cues to get the form right or is it just a matter of practising it until it comes?
 
asdfzxcv said:
Personally,my number one problem when it comes to attempting jerks is the speed factor.I can get under a clean pretty fast and catch in a low position but I get psyched out when it comes to the jerk.It turns into a botched push press rather then a smooth dip under the bar.Do you know of any specific cues to get the form right or is it just a matter of practising it until it comes?

yea, I feel the same way...I can't help but press it..any suggestions? the concept of 'dipping' under a bar seems impossible without some form of press
 
To start, do the split jerk, I don't like them, but for teaching/learning they really are ideal in my opinion. Then it is just dip and drive. Try to think of driving forward INTO the bar. If you've snatched, the idea of catching the bar already locked out is no goofier than snatching. You need to be explosive and you should hear your feet stomp. When jerking from the front, it is important to have a solid rack so that you can milk the leg drive and you don't bring the arms into play too early, which will make the weight feel like a ton and not allow you to get under the bar quick enough.
 
Tuesday 7/11/06

Great pressing workout tonight.

Flat Bench: 135x12, 225x12, 295x5, 315x5, 345x5, 360x5, 325x8 (could have done 10 or 12 I think)

Strict Standing Overhead Press: 135x5, 185x5, 200x5, 210x5, 215x5, 200x8

Dumbell Skullcrushers : 55'sx10, 8, 8, 8

I couldn't have been happier with this workout, I was wondering why my presses felt so strong and then I weighed myself and came in at 250 and that answered my question, lol. Recovery workout tomorrow, then cleans and front squats on Thurs.

1lb of steak fajitas in a few minutes.
 
BiggT said:
Absolutely....and if you're wondering, I must say I am a pretty lean 250, lol.
So I've seen ... since you brought it up ... this post is
worthless without more pics ... current ones.. :);)
 
*Bunny* said:
/estro jack ...

you keepin' up with that waxin' there big guy? :)

:wavey:

Thinking about how much my eyebrows hurt to be waxed - If it were my back - I'd be a big fan of Nair.

Before I /estro outta here - they do make a Nair for Men... :)
 
Hiya BiggT! :wavey:


3 things:

1) Only on EF can guys talk about "power jerking" & keep a straight face. :rolleyes:

2) Lean 250?? Let's see. PICS PICS PICS your fan club demands them! :google:

3) VIDEOS VIDEOS VIDEOS If you had video to accompany some of your lift explanations it would be a lot easier for people (like me) to understand. You could also use them for critique your technique.
 
silver_shadow said:
hey what happened to that kid who took pics of you jerking 305 & 310? i guess he hasn't replied?

I haven't gotten any emails.....I didn't run into him at the gym either, however that day is the first and only time I've seen him. He either forgot, or couldn't upload them, or he put them on BB.com or myspace and said they were him, lol.
 
those are great bench #'s - you planning on maxing out anytime to see what you've got? I'd guess 425 at least

putting on size really does make pressing more fun :)
 
Tweakle said:
those are great bench #'s - you planning on maxing out anytime to see what you've got? I'd guess 425 at least

putting on size really does make pressing more fun :)

Yeah, I had actually planned to do a single in the 400s last night, but I didn't feel confident enough, and the 5s felt so light, that I pushed them. I hadn't gone above 340 or 345x5 and an easy 385 single of late since coming back to these from close gripping, but yesterday I felt back to peak form. Singles next week though, I know I will hit 405, then whatever else I get is just a bonus.

You can say that about size and pressing again, I hate pressing at lighter bodyweights, so I learned to enjoy it as much as I can while I am heavy.
 
Incredible lifts and progress. But what we all want to know is how many animals did you chow down today?! I think we should all do an ef training board buffet meet up. I some how seeing the group being thrown out :(
 
BiggT said:
You can say that about size and pressing again, I hate pressing at lighter bodyweights, so I learned to enjoy it as much as I can while I am heavy.

I also hate pressing at lighter bodyweights. I find they always take a hit while my pulling and squatting remain relatively the same.
 
c3BB, I'm up for a buffet anytime. 36drew, I'm the same way, weight loss doesn't effect my squats either I think because with olympic and front squats, you don't depend on leverage and counterbalance and pushing off the midsection as a PL squat.

The last couple days, I did hang cleans to 330x1, and I did a track workout with 6 100s at about 80%. My spinal erectors on the right side have been a little sore, I think it is just muscular strain, nothing I haven't done before. I am feeling really good today though, and plan to jerk, push press, squat, and pull this weekend.

I wasn't gonna bother posting that except as an aside note to my next workout, but I see the journal has a disproportionatly more views than posts, so I figure a lot of people check in or 'lurk' and if this can help them out, then I want to post. A lot of guys start a 'program' and hit a bump in the road and are like "now what" and they scrap everything and overhaul and are always doing something new.....I just want to show how to properly handle the unexpected with training and that programs are just snapshots in time, and you just keep on pushing the goal lifts however and whenever you can.
 
BiggT said:
c3BB, I'm up for a buffet anytime. 36drew, I'm the same way, weight loss doesn't effect my squats either I think because with olympic and front squats, you don't depend on leverage and counterbalance and pushing off the midsection as a PL squat.

The last couple days, I did hang cleans to 330x1, and I did a track workout with 6 100s at about 80%. My spinal erectors on the right side have been a little sore, I think it is just muscular strain, nothing I haven't done before. I am feeling really good today though, and plan to jerk, push press, squat, and pull this weekend.

I wasn't gonna bother posting that except as an aside note to my next workout, but I see the journal has a disproportionatly more views than posts, so I figure a lot of people check in or 'lurk' and if this can help them out, then I want to post. A lot of guys start a 'program' and hit a bump in the road and are like "now what" and they scrap everything and overhaul and are always doing something new.....I just want to show how to properly handle the unexpected with training and that programs are just snapshots in time, and you just keep on pushing the goal lifts however and whenever you can.


Nice lifts bro, glad to hear your sqauts dont get affected from weight loss. Good job! There are a ton of lurkers, myself being one, i come in once in awhile and post up, only thing is YOU ARE THE MORE expiereinced one, so i bet alot of peeps feel that you dont need any tips lol, (specialy since i look here for big lifts tips)

Thanks for the log bro!
 
Someone say Buffet? :RADAR

BiggT said:
The last couple days, I did hang cleans to 330x1, and I did a track workout with 6 100s at about 80%. My spinal erectors on the right side have been a little sore, I think it is just muscular strain, nothing I haven't done before. I am feeling really good today though, and plan to jerk, push press, squat, and pull this weekend.

I wasn't gonna bother posting that except as an aside note to my next workout, but I see the journal has a disproportionatly more views than posts, so I figure a lot of people check in or 'lurk' and if this can help them out, then I want to post. A lot of guys start a 'program' and hit a bump in the road and are like "now what" and they scrap everything and overhaul and are always doing something new.....I just want to show how to properly handle the unexpected with training and that programs are just snapshots in time, and you just keep on pushing the goal lifts however and whenever you can.
"Hi, My name is Sarge and I have a problem... I'm a BiggT Log Lurker."

You're very inspiring bro... lots of people just watching your progress and what you do, ect. :artist:

I know what you mean about more views than posts ... check out my log :rolleyes: :)

1 sided soreness with the erectors aye? If it's not attributable to the workout... it could be compensating for a tight muscle that needs streching. Something similar happend to me involving my hip flexors... them beotches were tight as crap.

EDIT: What MM said, lol.... quick bastard!
 
I like all the views, lol.....yeah, Sarge, that could very well be the problem, I am gonna call to schedule a massage soon (a legit massage, not a hooker, I want to note before protobuilder and blitz chime in there, lol)
 
BiggT said:
I like all the views, lol.....yeah, Sarge, that could very well be the problem, I am gonna call to schedule a massage soon (a legit massage, not a hooker, I want to note before protobuilder and blitz chime in there, lol)
I like all the views I get too... it's kinda cool :supercool

Ahhh... Before that I'd recomend a chiropracter if you can find one local and go pay him 15-30 bucks if he's a small time guy (I self pay $15 / visit) and get adjusted first before the rub down... with optional happy ending :p lol

Legit you mean deep tissue, right? .... you're a big dood... that'd be like a 3-4 hour rub down!!! lol
 
I'm guilty of being one of the lurkers as well. Sometimes the night before squats or deads, I read some of these training journals to get myself fired up. Better than reading a bs mag. I like real world and hardcore. There's plenty of that in journals like this.
 
sgtslaughter said:
Someone say Buffet? :RADAR


"Hi, My name is Sarge and I have a problem... I'm a BiggT Log Lurker."

You're very inspiring bro... lots of people just watching your progress and what you do, ect. :artist:

I know what you mean about more views than posts ... check out my log :rolleyes: :)

1 sided soreness with the erectors aye? If it's not attributable to the workout... it could be compensating for a tight muscle that needs streching. Something similar happend to me involving my hip flexors... them beotches were tight as crap.

EDIT: What MM said, lol.... quick bastard!

another log lurker here :) Im just watching your diet progress..inspiring & impressive. what did you eat today??? LOL
 
Log lurkers? LoL

Now everybody knows that you are addicted to bench pressing and have a nice power jerk and snatch.

Here's the real question: does BiggT even workout anymore? LoL Post 'em up!
 
Lifted yesterday and today.....I thought yesterday sucked at the time, but it wasn't bad in retrospect.

Sat. 7/15/06

Push Press (to the front): 135x5, 185x5, 225x5, 255x5, 265x4, 265x4, 265x3....I wanted 5 reps at 265, so I was a little disappointed, and actually I just threw the weight into the pins from my rack across the shoulders after failing on the 4th rep of my last set, lol....my back felt tired and I generally was miserable, so I called it a day.

Went Mountain Biking Sat night as it stopped raining. Rode a 10 mile switchback trail, I had a good time, 250lbs + mountain bike + total lack of mtn bike skills = no cowboy stuff for me.....but it was a blast anyway and the trail was pretty challenging (for me,lol)

Lifted this morning...Sun 7/16/06

Power Clean: millions of warm-ups, 185x5, 225x3, 245x1, 245x5, 265x3, 285x1, 265x5, 295x3, 315x1

Pendlay Row: 135x10, 225x5, 245x5, 265x5, 285x5, 290x5

Chins: Bodyweightx 10, 8, 7

Felt like a million dollars today. Since Fri, I've had 2 and a half gallons of milk too.
 
BiggT said:
Lifted yesterday and today.....I thought yesterday sucked at the time, but it wasn't bad in retrospect.

....

Felt like a million dollars today. Since Fri, I've had 2 and a half gallons of milk too.

Good morning... Glad to hear that milk still does a body good. :)
 
WoNderWoMan25 said:
Good morning... Glad to hear that milk still does a body good. :)

Thank-you dear.

Solarclimax, thanks, but I would be happier if it were more like 400x1, but thats what training is for.
 
great journal biggt. I love your power clean numbers :qt: is there any chance you can upload one so I have an idea what I am aiming for?
 
Nice Mt. bike ridage broly! ... lol... millions of singles, Niiiiice! Quality pre working set joint lubrication :beer:

Disregarding all saftey and bodily hazards: Do you feel stronger without warm up... or with warm up?
Ex: After a nice Squat workout of triples... do you feel strongest at the end, or can you bust out a quality PR or big single without warm up?

Protobuilder said:
Here's the real question: does BiggT even workout anymore? LoL Post 'em up!
Lifting weights is a very dangerous activity and one should seek doctoral advice prior to exerting one's self to any strenous activities :nerd:
 
Thanks petpre....a video camera is on my to-buy list, lol

Sarge, without a doubt I perform better with a warm-up. I feel cold and tight if I don't warm-up. Even after a heavy squat workout, if I do a back-off set of 10, I can use much more weight than if I just came in and worked up to a set of 10.

For your example, I feel strongest at the end after some work. With cleans, I won't even begin the work sets until I am sweating and I have gotten myself into a nice groove. I never blow my load so to speak in warm-ups, like I won't bench 225 to failure and then do my working sets, but I am a big fan of properly warming up.
 
BiggT said:
Thanks petpre....a video camera is on my to-buy list, lol

Sarge, without a doubt I perform better with a warm-up. I feel cold and tight if I don't warm-up. Even after a heavy squat workout, if I do a back-off set of 10, I can use much more weight than if I just came in and worked up to a set of 10.

For your example, I feel strongest at the end after some work. With cleans, I won't even begin the work sets until I am sweating and I have gotten myself into a nice groove. I never blow my load so to speak in warm-ups, like I won't bench 225 to failure and then do my working sets, but I am a big fan of properly warming up.
Ok, me too... I agree completly :)

I'm still feeling the "warm up" and "working sets" out as that is pretty new to me (besides 1 warm up and then go at it type of approach)... I think that's why I like deadlifting after a traditional BB'ing type back workout... cuz i'm all warm and ready to pull big.

Ok, thanks for the reply... just was curious :artist: :) off the the fridge I go :chomp:
 
BiggT said:
Sarge, you'd like olympic lifting, you're pretty well worked before you even get to the squat rack.
I LOVE Cleans... I forget which one's I do though... too many damn names. Clean to front squat and up is like cardio after a few reps, lol.

I've been meaning to try to do OH Squats...

My OHP is "teh suck".com ... eh, I definetly, without a doubt want to try an OLY routine one of these days :)

*goes off to get food and come back to look up OLY routines and begin education,*
 
Monday 7/17/06

Erector(s) on the left side still a little bit tweaked when I have a bar across my back, much better than last week, but I didn't want to do something stupid, so I didn't go crazy wit hthe squats.

Back Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 295x5, 315x3, 345x5x5

That was it, in and out quickly, much more weight next time so long as I feel 100%
 
smart thing, live to fight another day rather than pushing it and ending up taking a week off... wish I could learn from your example :)
 
I did the same thing today, felt a twinge low in my right side and decided to stop. It wasn't easy, though, I loaded up the weights again for another set (I was working out with a friend), went to get a drink of water and on my way back I decided to bail out.

Whaddya gonna do.
 
BiggT said:
but I didn't want to do something stupid, so I didn't go crazy wit hthe squats. That was it, in and out quickly, much more weight next time so long as I feel 100%
Deff... smart man.

You got me all antzy to do some Power Cleans yesterday... did millions of singles... started around 95 kept adding 20lbs until I got to 225 and almost hurt myself... had to full front squat to get under the fast part went slow as molasas, lol.

:) Thanks for inpiring me though... that was a PR... haven't cleaned for awhile.
 
Thats a very respectable clean, Sarge

Lifted this evening....Tues. 7/18/06

Horizontal Champ's Special (Flat Bench, lol)....135x15, 225x5, 295x5, 325x5, 345x5, 355x5, 365x5 (drug-free 5 rep PR), 325x9

Dips: bodyweightx 20, 18, 18, 14 (triceps were shot)

Good night at the gym, flat bench feels really strong these days, weighed in somewhere between 250-251, the scale couldn't decide.
 
*Bunny* said:
Nice :) Roughly around 6 ft? @ 251?

Great job on the PR .
Sorry to jack your thread.. giving props :D

Bunny, you can thread jack whenever you get the urge, I like the input....I'm a shade under 6' and was 251ish today....probably 6' 1 in my oly lifting shoes, lol
 
BiggT said:
Thats a very respectable clean, Sarge

Lifted this evening....Tues. 7/18/06

Horizontal Champ's Special (Flat Bench, lol)....135x15, 225x5, 295x5, 325x5, 345x5, 355x5, 365x5 (drug-free 5 rep PR), 325x9

Dips: bodyweightx 20, 18, 18, 14 (triceps were shot)

Good night at the gym, flat bench feels really strong these days, weighed in somewhere between 250-251, the scale couldn't decide.
Thanks bor!

That's a very, very respectable BB Flat Bench PR :artist: Congrats on the PR!!
 
Nice work on the bench PR. You probably mentioned it and a bunch of other PRs at one point in the old journal, but what's your on-cycle 5RM?

Oh, and I think dips have replaced decline sit-ups as your "really need to start adding weight to these" exercise. ;)
 
Hey Que, I am still powered by milk.

CS, I pulled an old training log, lol, In August of 2003 I did 385x5 "enhanced" (Enanthate at 600mg/week), but I did weigh 269, so that makes me even more happy with this.
 
Very nice. Now you need to start wearing a rubber shirt and growing a bench belly. Pretty soon, you'll be a true athlete.

So, did close grip benching last cycle boost your flat bench PR? Or is it just b/c you're finally training it again (e.g., linear progress)? I think next cycle, I'll run close grip bench & OHP and see if it doesn't boost my flat bench. Working low inclines did absolutely nothing; I still haven't got my bench PR back.
 
Proto, I think it really did help, it didn't help 'instantly', but being stronger in the triceps helped me this training cycle (I've always been a pretty good overhead lifter , proportionately speaking, and my weakness on pressing is that my triceps get gassed, despite the weight flying off my chest like I have a bench shirt sewn underneath my skin), and the big gains are because I hadn't really trained the flat bench in a while........also, dipping I have to say has helped, a good functional exercise and I think doing them unweighted for reps around 20 helped my triceps conditioning too. Also, I went from 240 to 250 during this training phase, and a little weight gain never hurt anybody's pressing.

Protobuilder said:
Very nice. Now you need to start wearing a rubber shirt and growing a bench belly. Pretty soon, you'll be a true athlete.

So, did close grip benching last cycle boost your flat bench PR? Or is it just b/c you're finally training it again (e.g., linear progress)? I think next cycle, I'll run close grip bench & OHP and see if it doesn't boost my flat bench. Working low inclines did absolutely nothing; I still haven't got my bench PR back.
 
Now the high reps on dips make sense. I hadn't connected the frequent comments about triceps fatigue on your second pressing exercises and the need for endurance-focused assistance. The lesson, as always: T knows what he's doing. :p
 
I don't really understand the correlation between bodyweight & flat pressing, unless you just mean eating more = weight, which = easier to get strong. Or do you mean improved leverages from being t3h fat?
 
nice work on the PR, 365 for 5 is no joke.. hell, I'm not back there myself yet and I'm far from drug free :)

PB, grow some boobies and find out for yourself. I think more water helps as there's more intramuscular tension when you lower the weight, and the more well fed you are the more likely you are to blast the weights up. I suck at the flat bench, but when I fattened up to the high 250's I was blowing up 405 for reps with relative ease.
 
Thanks Tweakle, coming from you thats quite a compliment.

Proto, it is just a leverage thing. I find when I am lighter, I don't feel as solid and stable pressing, and when I get really light (sub-225) it really is unpleasant for me. I have disproportionately long arms and when my frame is less filled out it feels like I have to push the bar about 4 miles on all pressing lifts.

I am feeling beat to hell today, I am gonna lift tomorrow (probably power cleans, jerks from behind the neck, and front squats).

Went to the dentist at 8 AM today for a cleaning, so I figured I'd eat breakfast afterwards and I got up beforehand and just had a whey shake to hold me over...BIG mistake and I almost puked all over the dental hygenist about a dozen times as she was cleaning my teeth, lol....thankfully I held back.
 
hey big guy.... congrats on the PR!! I know that I am pretty pumped to be able to say that my absolute max flat bench is exactly what you warm up with, lol...

And the dentist :(
I don't care how strong y'all are, most will admit that you're still scared of the drill. I need to go (while I still have dental coverage) and I'm not even looking forward to the cleaning part of it.
 
WoNderWoMan25 said:
hey big guy.... congrats on the PR!! I know that I am pretty pumped to be able to say that my absolute max flat bench is exactly what you warm up with, lol...

And the dentist :(
I don't care how strong y'all are, most will admit that you're still scared of the drill. I need to go (while I still have dental coverage) and I'm not even looking forward to the cleaning part of it.

The cleaning is the worst, lol.

I lifted today and the workout sucked pretty bad.

Thurs 7/20/06

Overhead Squat (just as a warm-up because I want to get back into squat snatches soon).... 135x 3 sets of 5, too easy actually.

Power Clean: 135x 3 sets of 2, 185x1, 225x1, 245x1, 265x1, 285x1, 295x1, 305x1 (felt like crap, I did one horrendous single at 315, form was off and way too slow, got annoyed and stopped here)

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x5, 295x5...Felt like I got hit by a truck, but the low back feels fine though.

Barbell Curl: (I already felt gay at this point, so I thought why not be even gayer)...95x5, 115x5, 130x5, 145x5, 155x5, 135x8 (these were actually the highlight of my night, lol)

I am going to rest up tomorrow, and see how Sat's workout goes before I decide if I should backoff a little or if today was just one of those days.
 
Biggt, do you have access to a bar that spins to do your cleans? Or are you twice the beast/ogre that I already thought you were by doing cleans with a crappy fitness gym bar?

Congrats on the PR mang
 
super_rice said:
Biggt, do you have access to a bar that spins to do your cleans? Or are you twice the beast/ogre that I already thought you were by doing cleans with a crappy fitness gym bar?

Congrats on the PR mang

No, the bars spin, lol....they aren't the greatest, and sometimes I have to use a Texas Power Bar (still spins though), but thats as beastly as I get.
 
Ouch cleaning with a powerlifting bar - but hey, it spins!

I learned how to full clean with a powerlifting bar not knowing that it was one. All the skin on my neck coming off should have been a sign :)
 
So the pr is 365 flat bench press??

I weigh 152.5 and that is 2.39 times my body weight.

Goooooo BiggT!!!!!!! :garza:
 
not to join the gay parade or anything but those curls are the most impressive part of the workout :) 155 x 8 is great.. I wish
 
Tweakle said:
not to join the gay parade or anything but those curls are the most impressive part of the workout :) 155 x 8 is great.. I wish

Thanks, man....I actually did the 155x5 and 8 repper at the end was only 125...I think I am a fairly decent barbell curler because it's really the only biceps exercise I've trained consistently over the last few years.
 
I'm the opposite, I always seem to have a shoulder injury which prevents me doing anything for bis. As :rainbow: as it sounds I've always wanted to be able to curl a lot.. lol
 
I do curls once every month or so. I love the pump :rainbow:

BiggT said:
lol...I am just gonna stop calling benching and curling gay, I realized that I am in total denial of the fact that I love doing both lifts.

Oh yeah, the SIDE DEALTZ.. for width you know..

Protobuilder said:
The only thing missing are some DB flies.
 
Protobuilder said:
And Emulsifier 3.0. You can't make a big training w/out Emulsifier 3.0!!!1!

Dood,

UR the last person who should be talking. You didn't even know that ur supposed to stack GAKIC with NO-Xplode for awesome gainzz, lololz. I'll never know how you expect to be jakked and pick up mad hottie$$ on 'myspace'.
 
Saturday 7/22/06

The day off yesterday did me good, I felt great this morning.

Overhead Squat: bar x a bunch of warm-up sets, 135x5, 145x5, 155x5, 165x5, 175x5 (all of these were nice and easy, flexibility and balance are right on)

Power Snatch: 135x2, 165x2, 185x2, 200x 5 doubles

Snatch Pull: 225x2, 245x2, 265x2, 285x2, 305x2. 305x2

Back Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 315x3, 365x1, 375x5x5

Had a good session today. There was a guy at the gym who trains people, and he is also an S and C coach for the AHL affiliate of the Pittsburgh Penguins and a certified USAW club coach. I was talking to him for a little bit and had him watch some of the power snatches, he said they looked good and the speed was excellent, so that was a good confidence boost....as soon as I get my overhead squats up some, I will try some squat snatches.

Post workout had 48g of whey with 2 cups of skim milk, a random dumping of egg beaters (back in the day I'd use raw eggs, but that 1 in 40,000 chance of getting sick stops me, lol), and some PB. Then I had a Turkey Club on white toast and some chips.
 
Sunday 7/23/06

Strict standing Behind the neck press: bar x a million, 135x10, 185x5, 195x5, 205x5, 215x5 (PR), 215x5 (PR)

Behind the neck push press: 225x3, 245x3, 255x3 (PR), 265x3 (PR)

Pendlay Row: 135x10, 225x5, 255x5, 275x5, 300x5, 315x5 (315 was heavy as fuck on these)

Incline Dumbell Press: 100's x 12, 12, 10

Great workout today. Came home and had 48g of whey and a couple of meat loaf sandwiches. My pressing is really clicking and coming together.

Something funny at the gym today, lol, this is a good story for the morons at the gym thread. There was a guy there I'd never seen before, good sized guy, about 6'1" and 235 or so and good body comp. He was doing leg presses and he had to walk across the gym to get more plates, so as he walks by the mirror he has his chest puffed out, he is carrying imaginary luggage, and he is making tough guy faces at himeslf in the mirror. He grabs a 45 for each hand and repeats the same shtick on the way back to the leg press. He is concentrating so hard on making tough guy faces at himself in the mirror that he fails to see the weight tree in front of him and he smashes right into it, doing a face plant to the floor, dropping both 45s and taking the weight tree with him scattering 2.5s and 5s and 10s and 25s all over the place. I thought it was pretty damn funny, but it looked bad, so I came over and helped him up and asked if he was ok (fortunately no damage was done, lol), so I helped him pick up all the scattered plates......just thought y'all would find this funny.....luckily for the guy the gym is empty on Sun because most people are nursing hangovers and preparing for tomorrow, which is international bench press day.
 
LoL Nice story. It's even worse that he's doing that in an empty gym. Did he act like a dick to you or was he decent after you helped him up? LoL

Good to see your pressing is "clicking." What do you think's going on? Just happens that way sometimes or what?
 
Protobuilder said:
LoL Nice story. It's even worse that he's doing that in an empty gym. Did he act like a dick to you or was he decent after you helped him up? LoL

Good to see your pressing is "clicking." What do you think's going on? Just happens that way sometimes or what?

Nah, he was alright, lol, I think he was glad I helped him pick up all the scattered plates.

About the pressing, I think it just happens that way sometimes. I am weighing in around 250, which helps, but also, I have trained the same couple things consistently and not strayed off much and varied my training too much, and the subtitiutions are 'like lifts' for 3 or 4 weeks and I seem to have gained legit strength after the reacclimation process and all.
 
Did a little session at 5:30 AM

Overhead Squat: bunch of warm-ups, 135x5, 155x5, 165x5, 175x5, 185x5

Power Snatch: bunch of doubles up to 205

I am gonna do some sprints tonight.

Shades, sorry I missed your post, I am from PA

Also want to note, I went to a Japanese restaurant last night and on Sundays they have an all you can eat Sushi special, and I pretty much shut the place down, the staff was actually getting annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop, lol.
 
BiggT said:
Also want to note, I went to a Japanese restaurant last night and on Sundays they have an all you can eat Sushi special, and I pretty much shut the place down, the staff was actually getting annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop, lol.
your like joey from friends... i believe you're italian american too ;)
 
Yeah, SS...I am half-Italian....MM, with the olympic lifts, there's two: the clean and jerk and the snatch (the clean and press was eliminated after the '72 Olympics). With olympic lifts, once you can do the full squat versions of the lifts, you've got various hybrids, which are really just assistance to the C & J and the snatch, there are things like (power cleans, power snatches, power and squat versions done from various heights, which are 'hang' versions, you can work on just the pull from the floor or the hang (clean and snatch pulls)......once you can do a squat clean, a squat snatch, and you can jerk, you can really get creative depending on your goals if you're not going to compete in Olympic lifting. I generally prefer to pull from the floor, rather that the hang on everything though.
 
BiggT said:
I have trained the same couple things consistently and not strayed off much and varied my training too much, and the subtitiutions are 'like lifts' for 3 or 4 weeks and I seem to have gained legit strength after the reacclimation process and all.

That's awesome. And pretty much all one needs to know. Glad to hear it's working.
 
BiggT said:
Also want to note, I went to a Japanese restaurant last night and on Sundays they have an all you can eat Sushi special, and I pretty much shut the place down, the staff was actually getting annoyed with me because I just couldn't stop, lol.

*in my best imitation voice*

You been here 4 hour - you leave now!

Sushi all gone truck not come till Tuesday

You no come back!
 
Trained yesterday Tuesday 7/25/06

Incline Press : 135x10, 225x5, 275x5, 300x5, 325x3x3

Power Clean: bunch of warm-ups and front squats and various crap, 135x3, 185x3, 225x2, 255x1, 245x3, 265x2, 285x1, 275x3, 295x2, 310x1

Front Squat: 135x5, 225x5, 275x3, 295x3, 310x3, 325x3, 340x3


Felt good today, lots of frequency and volume the past couple of weeks, but I am feeling good, I got about 10 hours of sleep last night too, lol. Just did the incline today to break from the flat bench because I know my 5s aren't gonna go anyhere and I didn't want to fail, I will do some greasing the groove with the flat bench on Fri and maybe hit a single next week.
 
lol, I have gotten lax with my posts.....no training issues or anything, in fact things are going pretty good.....I will give a quick rundown and resume the normal posting tonight.....

This was from last week

Monday (7/24/06)

Overhead Squat (5x5)
Power Snatch (5 doubles)

Tuesday (7/25/06)

Incline Press (5-5-5-5-3-3-3)
Power Clean (3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1)
Front Squat (5 triples)

Wednesday (7/26/06)

Overhead Squat (5x5)
Power Snatch (5 doubles)

Thursday (7/27/06)

Back Squat (5x5 pyramiding the weight)
Clean Pulls (6 doubles)

Friday (7/28/06)

Flat Bench (5x5 pyramiding to about 90%ish of what I could do)
Close-Grip Bench (3 sets of 12)

Saturday (7/29/06)

Overhead Squat (5x5)
Power Snatch (5 doubles)
Back Squat (5x5 set same weight all throughout)
Jump Shrug (3 sets of 8)

Sunday (7/30/06)

30 minutes of incline treadmill walking

Back to the more detailed posts tonight.
 
I'm slow at work, so I will post up today's 'diet' as well.

Breakfast: 5 Jumbo eggs, 3 slices of whole wheat toast, 2 servings of oatmeal, 1 quart of skim milk.

Meal 2: 1 quart of skim milk

Meal 3: Carribean jerk chicken and rice with peas

Meal 4: Turkey Sandwich on whole wheat, baked lays, 1 banana, 1 nutri-grain bar, some sugar-free vanilla wafers

thats already down, this is on tap.....

Meal 5: Same exact thing as meal 4

Meal 6: preworkout, power bar and gatorade

Meal 7: 1lb of either chicken/fish/beef, some type of starch, a salad, a quart of milk

Meal 8: Shake with 48g whey, milk, egg beaters, oats, banana, peanut butter
 
I heard getting crowns adds 100 pounds to your squat.

Random question about this week's workouts: do you still plan to try a big flat bench single on Friday and, if so, what poundage are you aiming for?
 
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