gh and fatloss

[alleyezonme187]

where to get armour thyoid?

 

[goin on 4T]

google it. Or go to your dr and have your fsh tested. If you have been on GH for a month it will be low and you will get a script then it will cost $10/month.

 

[JLA]

T-3 isn't for fat loss when used with GH when your thyroid reduces its output. It needs to be supplemented.

I had read it downregulated thyroid hormones, but I didn't realize it was happening to me until I had only a month or so left.

Typically, cold weather will ramp up your thyroid hormones, but I was cold much more often than usual. Had some T-3 and felt normal.

You're totally right, I guess I was just looking at the fatloss side since that was what he mentioned. I would guess that taking it (even just to get back to normal thyroid levels) would improve fat loss over GH that hit your thyroid output.

Thanks!

 

[jacshelb]

What about the method of using GH only post workout 3 times per week at 10 ius? Does that still affect your thyroid to a great degree?

 

[JLA]

What about the method of using GH only post workout 3 times per week at 10 ius? Does that still affect your thyroid to a great degree?

I actually looked around a bit and stumbled onto a study that was pretty close to what you are looking. (COMPLETE luck....)

Anyway, a 220 pound person (100kg), for example was given 3 injections per week of approximately 7 IU (MWF). They tested thyroid function and didn't note a significant decline over a 12-month period.

Here's the abstract - I double checked my conversions and they seem correct.

Recombinant human growth hormone treatment at low doses does not significantly change thyroid function in growth hormone deficient adults

I actually wondered that myself when I took GH. They didn't study if the frequency of injection was a factor, but it's possible. Obviously, GH clears quickly, but IGF and other factors take longer. But two days between may allow the thyroid to remain "online."

I would like to find a study that did the same thing but for daily injections... I did daily injections myself and felt as though my thyroid was slowing - but it was just anecdotal (no testing at all). I felt I was becoming a bit sluggish and was actually feeling cold in rooms with people in which I had previously felt warm. I took t4 toward the end (last month of 9).

It feels as though my thyroid has fully recovered and I haven't taken GH for over 6 months.

 

[goin on 4T]

What about the method of using GH only post workout 3 times per week at 10 ius? Does that still affect your thyroid to a great degree?

No you will have much less sides from 3 x week.
Carpl, bloat everything is greatly reduced. Except muscle gain.

 

[goin on 4T]

Problem is we are all different. I know I need armour when on GH as my bloodtest tell me and that should be the reason for taking any t-3 or t-4 period!

I actually looked around a bit and stumbled onto a study that was pretty close to what you are looking. (COMPLETE luck....)

Anyway, a 220 pound person (100kg), for example was given 3 injections per week of approximately 7 IU (MWF). They tested thyroid function and didn't note a significant decline over a 12-month period.

Here's the abstract - I double checked my conversions and they seem correct.

Recombinant human growth hormone treatment at low doses does not significantly change thyroid function in growth hormone deficient adults

I actually wondered that myself when I took GH. They didn't study if the frequency of injection was a factor, but it's possible. Obviously, GH clears quickly, but IGF and other factors take longer. But two days between may allow the thyroid to remain "online."

I would like to find a study that did the same thing but for daily injections... I did daily injections myself and felt as though my thyroid was slowing - but it was just anecdotal (no testing at all). I felt I was becoming a bit sluggish and was actually feeling cold in rooms with people in which I had previously felt warm. I took t4 toward the end (last month of 9).

It feels as though my thyroid has fully recovered and I haven't taken GH for over 6 months.

 

[DidiXterra]

Your friend is way off telling you need to add T3 to your Hgh...

You need to add T4, since your body will convert all it's T4 to T3 at a much higher rate when you go on Hgh... Leaving you with next to nothing T4 wise, while you are too high in T3, your body should have T3 and T4 in around 1:4 ratio... Some take Armour, just to be on safe side... But the best thing is actually to supplement with T4 only

 

[JLA]

Problem is we are all different. I know I need armour when on GH as my bloodtest tell me and that should be the reason for taking any t-3 or t-4 period!

Yeah. We are all different. Ideally you do your own research and check your reactions, etc. - just like you do. No study or other person's experiences will be alike, but you have to start with some information...

I mean even the title mentions the articles for deficient adults, etc., etc.

But I don't doubt what you're saying at all...