getting the most from my PRIMO cycle

[georgie24]

im about to see what the big fuss is about primo. i have been reading about the fucking drug for as long as i been a member witch is about 3 years. now the shit is about to get real, i recently bought primo from a very well liked and respected person so i have no doubt its gonna be real. now to really find out the kinks and perk's for optimal primo usage i will ask a few more questions.


is there really a dramatic difference between 200 and 300 and 400 mg week?

how low can you really go on calories?

whats the optimal diet for fat loss?( protien to carb to fat ratio)

is it easy to "overtrain" on primo?

p.s primo user's please post how many primo cycles youve done and what dosages worked the best at your wieght.

right now im sitting at aproxiitmatly 226 pounds unknown bodyfat( jiggles though). i want to get to a very ripped and vascular 175-180.

again heres my plan so please critique it.

primo-400 mg 1-12( basicly whole summer june-aug)
proviron 4-18
winny-6-12

a few things i DO NOT want to hear on my thread

1. too expensive
2. too faked
3. im scared of primo blah blah blah

ive been around here too often and too long for any b.s/bolony

have a nice day as im off to go sleep now

 

[satchboogie]

i believe i quality to answer some of those questions with certainty..

first off, there IS a differnce between 200mg a week and 400mg a week..
its double the dose bro!

at 200mg a week, youll see a small change in hardness but little increase in strength.
at 400mg a week, you'll witness a very noticealbe hardness and seperation and a mild increase in strength.

but 600mg a week is ideal..
within 10 days you should fall in love..
just a warning.. once your get primotized.. youll never touch the other stuff!!!

cant answer the 'overtraining on primo' question but i assume at 400mg a week you your body should be in a nice anabolic enviorement. surely, if you pump 6 days a week on limited cals you'll become a catabolic machine.. even on 2g test.

2000 cals or less per day should not intefere with the gains on primo.
its one of few steroids that allows for solid gains on low cals..

keep in mind i say 'solid'... NOT amazing or out of this earth!

if you're lookin for magic, i think 1g test/1g deca/1g fina should do just that.

good luck my man.

 

[georgie24]

lol 1 gram... just looking at those dosages makes me panic... all the magic i need from primo is to hold on to gains while i ravish fat store's and thrash muscle during highly intense workouts. as long as i dont go mental on this shit ill love it lol....

 

[Paulo]

a few things i DO NOT want to hear on my thread

1. too expensive
2. too faked
3. im scared of primo blah blah blah

ive been around here too often and too long for any b.s/bolony

LOL, yeah, I almost got caught up in all of that myself. And I don't even juice yet.

um, since we are here, what might be better, (keeping the total amount used constant) 8 weeks at 600mg or 12 weeks at 400mg?

sorry to hijack the thread, btw,

 

[georgie24]

no problem bro, any factual primo feedback we get would be considerd money in the bank.

 

[Mavy]

Georgie, if you are looking to drop 50lbs of fat from 226 to 175, I would wait until you shed some of that first before using the primo. I would honestly try dieting and using some t-rex, clen, r-ala to get leaner before running the primo. Primo is like winny in that if you are already at a high % body fat you will not reap its benefits. If you are looking to be 175, and are 226 right now, I would'nt touch primo until you have dropped at least 15 lbs first. Its a lot of money to spend to not use it to its full potential. Just my opinion.

 

[georgie24]

mavy- thanks for your post, however i do need the anti-catabolic support from the drug, when i diet down and restrict calories im usually dead on and dont fugg up. my biggest problem is holding lbm while i diet down and lose strength. i need the drug to do its job and ill do mine

 

[bicepts101]

damn bro...thats alot of bf to shed.....you got any pics?

 

[Mavy]

mavy- thanks for your post, however i do need the anti-catabolic support from the drug, when i diet down and restrict calories im usually dead on and dont fugg up. my biggest problem is holding lbm while i diet down and lose strength. i need the drug to do its job and ill do mine

True enough georgie. Its just that when you are at a higher bf, you dont have to worry about muscle catabolism as much. The fat WANTS to melt off first. When your bf is not overly to high, that is when you have to worry more about muscle catabolism. THat is also when it becomes harder to loose the fat. A month ago, I dropped 13 lbs of bf, and I am very skeptical that I lost very little lbm, if any. I did not get a second bf test done, but my lifts actually increased during the fat loss period. It could be partially due to the training I was doing which focused largely on progressive overload, but either way I felt it was fat only that was gone. I used T-rex, and high intensity am cardio, and a high protien and green veggie diet. Went from 213-200 and it has been the leanest that I have been in a while. If I wanted to go down further from there, that is when i would use anabolics, and try to add lean body mass while shedding the last few lbs. I was ready to jump on a full cycle then, but I have been out of the gym for one month since, (due to a pulled back, then being sick as hell). So ... I am going to run T-rex and clen (alternate 2wks on 2 off), for 1 month to build my strength back up to where it was before beeing off before starting my cycle.

So ya, sure the primo will likely help, but I dont think that you need it right yet. I think that you could shed some naturally without eating muscle to get a bit leaner, before using it. My old training partner is up here for the summer, and he has a similar task at hand. He wants to shed 40lbs without loosing any muscle to be where he was at last year. He has went into a calorie deficit, and high protien diet has already lost 15lbs. He has now just started using some anabolics to preserve lbm. His choice of drug for sparing the muscle is no other than dbol. Despite what people think, and all the water that people are scared of, he is taking 15mg/day (5mg - 3 times/day), to prevent muscle catabolism, and he is doing great. This is dbol's mail purpose anyways, it is the best steroid for reducing endogeneous cortisone, which is why it takes the cake as the best anti-catabolic, and why it has an unreal effect on muscle catabolism (why do all my threads turn out to be dbol advertisments??? lol). Im sure if he added some primo in there, he would definately love it. When he drops 30lbs, he is going to add some NPP to the mix.

I am not anti-steroid by any means, but I just think that 50lbs is a lot of bf to shed, and anabolics may not be the answer right at first, IMHO. Either way, good luck, thats a large task at hand, so stay dedicated. Maybe talk to thegame, I believe that he lost over 50lbs in his transformation.

Cheers,
Mavy

 

[georgie24]

thanks mavy- i have done this before natty (aside from pondimin) and i didnt use any gear i went from 287ish to 200 pounds in under six months. however i caught the "jared" syndrome. i tried cutting with test several times but each time it turned into a nightmare. im obsessive compuslsive so naturally my regimins are strict and flawless and i always get the results im after, but the test cycles do me in big time. knowing what i know i can never diet down without some kind of anabolic support. i tend to not eat crap and overfeed when i diet im too dedicated anyone in my family or friends can tell ya. heck im alien to them, they gorge on junk while i obsess on high protien clean calories. they always try to "loosen me up" i guess so they wont look like obvious pigs themselves