Gear for faster recovery

[Rawcorporation]

So here is my situation. I'm looking for what is the best gear to use to speed recovery in order to improve my performance faster. I'm 29. Recovery Is the main priority, endurance second, then strength. I don't care about size or looks. I am training for a military job where I need to excel in swim, calisthenics, and running. I'm all good in the swim and calisthenics area. My run is not up to the standards I want to be at. I train 2-3 times a days 6 days a week. One run and/or swim workout then a weight/strength workout.

One of my training partners recently started taking equipose. He's 3 weeks into it and his recovery and performance especially in the running department have really improved. He just takes equipose because that is what his friend used to take. He told me to just use equipose too but i'd like to find out what is the best for my goals. Is equipose the best gear for my goals? I looked into anavar, but I'm not sure since I am a beginner to taking gear. I prefer an oral, but will use injectable if that's the best. I don't need bodybuilder stacks just something to boost my ability to recover from my hard workouts faster. Preferably something mild and easy with not too many side effects.

If I need to clarify anything else just let me know.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

If you are not going to be drug tested and you insist on using gear for this purpose I would consider boldenon... the only thing to remember is that without any test most other AAS will eventually shut you down and possibly reduce sex drive so a TRT dose of test might be warrented or you could stack proviron with it.

Something like 100mg of test cyp and 300 mg of boldenon (equipoise)per week might be in order... just for your goals I am not certain gear is even worth the hassle.

 

[Stryker1992]

So here is my situation. I'm looking for what is the best gear to use to speed recovery in order to improve my performance faster. I'm 29. Recovery Is the main priority, endurance second, then strength. I don't care about size or looks. I am training for a military job where I need to excel in swim, calisthenics, and running. I'm all good in the swim and calisthenics area. My run is not up to the standards I want to be at. I train 2-3 times a days 6 days a week. One run and/or swim workout then a weight/strength workout.

One of my training partners recently started taking equipose. He's 3 weeks into it and his recovery and performance especially in the running department have really improved. He just takes equipose because that is what his friend used to take. He told me to just use equipose too but i'd like to find out what is the best for my goals. Is equipose the best gear for my goals? I looked into anavar, but I'm not sure since I am a beginner to taking gear. I prefer an oral, but will use injectable if that's the best. I don't need bodybuilder stacks just something to boost my ability to recover from my hard workouts faster. Preferably something mild and easy with not too many side effects.

If I need to clarify anything else just let me know.

I would consider looking at Helladrol from mrsupps.com. I train a lot of cardio and strength for MMA and have run that with exellent results. I like it because it works as well as any AAS and is legal to buy. It is a prohormone. Check into it. PM me and I can get you a discount on it.

Also, for recovery glutamine has shown to singificantly improve efficiency in recovery. I use the powerchews glutamine formula from needtobuildmuscle.com.

 

[Power36]

All that kind of gut check training I would be pounding EFAs, BCAAs, Beta Alanine-Creatine combo, and whey protein before and after each training session, and stuff your face....if possible, do some breathing or meditation before bed and get as much sleep as possible...

the hardest thing about the kind of training you are doing, is not really what roids are gonna help with...nutrition, supplementation, and good rest/recovery techniques are gonna be more important....that training is hard on the joints, immune system, hormones, all that...running is horrific on the body but I know thats what men in your line of work need to do for tryouts, training, and pipeline stuff....

Wake up hit breakfast and whey shake, multi vitamin, BCAAs, if possible eat a meal or pound an MRP shake every 3-4 hours....before training small whey shake with some carbs or sip on a carb drink with a handful of BCAAs and some Beta-Alanine+creatine....right after hit BCAAs and/or whey shake....before bed drink some casein/egg peanut butter and banana and whatever else you love shake (unless weight is an issue)....and take EFAs at every meal and with every shake...

Foam roll often, do active dynamic warm ups before training, and static stretch and breathing after training sessions....

Ah its Christmas I got family running around...if you are wanting to talk and are serving in any capacity with the US or allies, send me PM Id love to help....

 

[Power36]

PS-Im not saying gear wont help...but Im not an AAS expert...plus unless you are doign contract work, I always worry about guys getting hassles if it becomes an issue with some peckerhead officer or whistle blower and then risks your career or having a black mark on your record...and depending on when you may get deployed, will you be able to finish a cycle and do proper PCT and all that....at 29 if you can maximize nutrition and rest/recovery stuff you might not need juice...

getting the stuff, hiding it, pinning, all it takes is one person to cause issues if they see or suspect something...

 

[joeblow12345]

Did you consider the fact that training 6 days a week your overtrained? That could be why your recovering slowly. For your purposes aas is not necessary.

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[Power36]

Yea he could be overtraining...but it sometimes goes with the territory of many of our LE/MIL brothers who put it on the line, especially speciality units whether its spec ops military or SWAT units....the tryouts and training pipelines for these folks can be brutal, some with due regard to weed out non hackers and others maybe because its just old school and folks are misinformed about appropriate training...gut check training is good for seeing who has mental toughness, but often is overused and lots of overtraining issues....so he might just have to deal with it and get through whatever phase he is in now, and work on recovery more diligently later on....

 

[Mr.Dedication]

If you want to not to be sore anymore use peptides like DES or LR3...then you could recover much faster and run them for longer and not worry about getting tested

 

[curls4girls]

Hgh

 

[Power36]

GH for a guy on a military salary might be unrealistic, as well would take a long time to kick in....I dont know anything about peptides...

Has this guy been back at all to see the thread, if there is a way of telling?

 

[Judo Tom]

first get blood work done. see what your important levels are at.

You have to be real careful w/ dosages so that your endurance doesnt get thrashed.

eq is good.. but you need some test as well.

but you also have to worry about coming off at some point and then your performance will fall off for about a month.

at first i would try unleashed and a bunch of good protein supps like gear and big blast. see how that works for a month.

 

[Rawcorporation]

Sorry for not replying back sooner guys. I appreciate all the help. My computer went down, busy schedule plus holidays all contributed to me not getting back to this thread. Anyways let me clarify my situation some more. I am 5'6 weigh 168 in the morning after a piss and a crap, fluctuate up to 172 during the day. Like I said I am trying to drop my run times while also keeping my strength and continue to get stronger. I take muscle pharm assault with added beta alanine and l-carnitine before my strength workouts and I take 40g of protein post workout after my runs, swims and strength workouts.

I run a 10:23 mile and a half. I need to drop that time to 9:30 ASAP while also getting stronger. I know that losing some weight will help me get my run times down, but every time I adjust my diet to lost weight I also lose strength and some endurance. I researched clenbuterol because I read that's what track people use. What would be the best route for me to go? Clen alone, Clen with equipoise, mrsupps helladrol stack, etc? I know I can get my run time down eventually but I am in need of improving very quickly, within 1-2 months max. Please let me know if I need to clarify on any other details.

 

[joeblow12345]

Sorry for not replying back sooner guys. I appreciate all the help. My computer went down, busy schedule plus holidays all contributed to me not getting back to this thread. Anyways let me clarify my situation some more. I am 5'6 weigh 168 in the morning after a piss and a crap, fluctuate up to 172 during the day. Like I said I am trying to drop my run times while also keeping my strength and continue to get stronger. I take muscle pharm assault with added beta alanine and l-carnitine before my strength workouts and I take 40g of protein post workout after my runs, swims and strength workouts.

I run a 10:23 mile and a half. I need to drop that time to 9:30 ASAP while also getting stronger. I know that losing some weight will help me get my run times down, but every time I adjust my diet to lost weight I also lose strength and some endurance. I researched clenbuterol because I read that's what track people use. What would be the best route for me to go? Clen alone, Clen with equipoise, mrsupps helladrol stack, etc? I know I can get my run time down eventually but I am in need of improving very quickly, within 1-2 months max. Please let me know if I need to clarify on any other details.

You are playing with a double edge sword. Getting stronger and improving run time is very difficult. Long distance running is tricky as explosive training doesnt apply. If you were sprinting they would go hand in hand. You need extreme endurance, which strength training doesnt provide. You could do circuit training which improves endurance but doesn't make you strong. If the run time is top priority lose weight do more running and sprinting, along with circuit training. Phs and juice will put weight on you and they all effect cardio in a negative way. The extra weight will make you slower for sure. The one drug that will be beneficial for you is epo. It increases rbc thus improving endurance.

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[Zyglamail]

I am training for a military job where I need to excel in swim, calisthenics, and running. I'm all good in the swim and calisthenics area. My run is not up to the standards I want to be at. I train 2-3 times a days 6 days a week. One run and/or swim workout then a weight/strength workout.

If those are your goals, stay away from gear. Its a very fine line to find the performance edge when it comes to endurance type training and requires diligent monitoring of labs and a lot of trial and error to find the sweet spot for you.

When you say get stronger, you need to focus on specifics for your goal. As already mentioned general strength work is not conducive to running speed/endurance. If you need to be able to do so many pullups/situps/pushups etc, then focus there instead of general strength.

 

[Power36]

You are playing with a double edge sword. Getting stronger and improving run time is very difficult. Long distance running is tricky as explosive training doesnt apply. If you were sprinting they would go hand in hand. You need extreme endurance, which strength training doesnt provide. You could do circuit training which improves endurance but doesn't make you strong. If the run time is top priority lose weight do more running and sprinting, along with circuit training. Phs and juice will put weight on you and they all effect cardio in a negative way. The extra weight will make you slower for sure. The one drug that will be beneficial for you is epo. It increases rbc thus improving endurance.

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Actually, getting stronger will improve your run times..Ive seen it time and time again and I know there is research out there that has proved it, and not shitty lab only research, real world stuff....running is ground based force production and anytime you are getting stronger you are going to improve run times, even for endurance training....but with only 1-2 months to cram and hurry its unrealistic to try to do everything at once...your best bet is focus on the tests you have to do and work on improving them, sounds like you would risk overtraining if you threw in strength training at this point...

Seems like you would be best off getting on a good track site forum if there is one, and work with some track coaches on developing good day to day interval training programs that will peak you in a month or two for whenever your test times are...lifting will help I gurantee it, but Im leary of this seeming like such a rush and if you throw too much of everything in the blender it could be a mess....

But yes not to open a can of worms....distance runners would benefit from strength training and explosive training (olympic lifts and their variations) but in a well designed, well thought out, smart periodized program....which takes time and patience to plan as well stick with...so many variables...you dont have time and if you dont have the knowledge Id be careful of trying to find any secrets or magic bullets....hard work plus smart work with your nutrition, rest, active recovery, and get a track coach who knows what they are doing to design some workouts for you

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Actually, getting stronger will improve your run times..Ive seen it time and time again and I know there is research out there that has proved it, and not shitty lab only research, real world stuff....running is ground based force production and anytime you are getting stronger you are going to improve run times, even for endurance training....but with only 1-2 months to cram and hurry its unrealistic to try to do everything at once...your best bet is focus on the tests you have to do and work on improving them, sounds like you would risk overtraining if you threw in strength training at this point...

Seems like you would be best off getting on a good track site forum if there is one, and work with some track coaches on developing good day to day interval training programs that will peak you in a month or two for whenever your test times are...lifting will help I gurantee it, but Im leary of this seeming like such a rush and if you throw too much of everything in the blender it could be a mess....

But yes not to open a can of worms....distance runners would benefit from strength training and explosive training (olympic lifts and their variations) but in a well designed, well thought out, smart periodized program....which takes time and patience to plan as well stick with...so many variables...you dont have time and if you dont have the knowledge Id be careful of trying to find any secrets or magic bullets....hard work plus smart work with your nutrition, rest, active recovery, and get a track coach who knows what they are doing to design some workouts for you

Getting stronger might improve run times but I don't think using gear will. I have yet to run a cycle that didn't make me outta breath doing the simplest of shit. Bulking and cutting. I highly doubt I could improve my run time on it. The added water weight isn't gonna help

 

[joeblow12345]

Actually, getting stronger will improve your run times..Ive seen it time and time again and I know there is research out there that has proved it, and not shitty lab only research, real world stuff....running is ground based force production and anytime you are getting stronger you are going to improve run times, even for endurance training....but with only 1-2 months to cram and hurry its unrealistic to try to do everything at once...your best bet is focus on the tests you have to do and work on improving them, sounds like you would risk overtraining if you threw in strength training at this point...

Seems like you would be best off getting on a good track site forum if there is one, and work with some track coaches on developing good day to day interval training programs that will peak you in a month or two for whenever your test times are...lifting will help I gurantee it, but Im leary of this seeming like such a rush and if you throw too much of everything in the blender it could be a mess....

But yes not to open a can of worms....distance runners would benefit from strength training and explosive training (olympic lifts and their variations) but in a well designed, well thought out, smart periodized program....which takes time and patience to plan as well stick with...so many variables...you dont have time and if you dont have the knowledge Id be careful of trying to find any secrets or magic bullets....hard work plus smart work with your nutrition, rest, active recovery, and get a track coach who knows what they are doing to design some workouts for you

I agree with being stronger will make you faster in short distance but very difficult to see any huge carryover during a 2 mile run. Strength is a short quick burst of power exerted with maximumal force. This is hard to do when your running distance as no one can sustain maximal force production for more than a couple seconds. To be good at endurance running you need to be able to pace yourself and conserve energy. Then apply strength at the end when you sprint to the finish. Being stronger in general will improve performance, but he needs to focus on endurance for now.

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[Power36]

I totally agree he needs to focus on endurance...however, being stronger will make you stronger for a 2 mile run or a 26 mile run as well...but in the time frame he has and how he has already been training, it would be too much to cram it all in juice or no juice....your joints and connective tissue can only take so much if you are hitting hard core military style gut check overtraining....strength would not improve the run time just by sprinting at the end either...it would improve his run time if he was starting prep a much further point out and could do it intelligently

 

[joeblow12345]

I totally agree he needs to focus on endurance...however, being stronger will make you stronger for a 2 mile run or a 26 mile run as well...but in the time frame he has and how he has already been training, it would be too much to cram it all in juice or no juice....your joints and connective tissue can only take so much if you are hitting hard core military style gut check overtraining....strength would not improve the run time just by sprinting at the end either...it would improve his run time if he was starting prep a much further point out and could do it intelligently

I BELIEVE juice has no benefits to a runner as when your on cardio goes backwards. Ya realistically he should have begun 6 months ago but too late, all he can do is bust his ass and rest as much as possible.

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[Power36]

im no expert on AAS....but I think the right kinds with the right training will help your conditioning...I feel good on my blasts and recovery quicker, can workout more, and it doesnt seem to mess up my conditioning...but I have only done blasts with Primo, Var, Mast type stuff in small doses...

Improved recovery time is going to help any training

 

[joeblow12345]

im no expert on AAS....but I think the right kinds with the right training will help your conditioning...I feel good on my blasts and recovery quicker, can workout more, and it doesnt seem to mess up my conditioning...but I have only done blasts with Primo, Var, Mast type stuff in small doses...

Improved recovery time is going to help any training

Those are more mild. Try running 2 miles on tren and test and tell me it was easy. But in general juice causes you to gain weight quickly and its hard for your cardiovascular system to adjust to the new weight. I do advocate doing moderate cardio to help adjust to the new weight. But dont expect to do no marathons.

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[Power36]

Hahah....friend I dont care what age or shape Ive been in, you could NEVER get me to do a marathon!

For 20 years Ive always been in the 230-250 range and doing anaerobic sports and activities...Im a pure power sport guy who has done distance runnning only for various occupational reasons at times...even then I hated it...so Im used to carrying around a lot of beef and no, distance work isnt fun and it hurts like hell the older you get...its NOT healthy training pounding your body like that as much as everyone thinks "I gotta run" or "I gotta do cardio" to get in shape...cut carbs and lift weights and most of the general population will shed chub....gyms make billions, as well supplement companies and infomercials of equipment, off plenty of people who do cardio and machine training year in and year out and still look like a$$...

Im too chicken to do Tren, I get tempted but then get chicken hah...so yea the only stuff I see myself blasting with in additino to HRT at times is Mast, Primo, Var, tbol, maybe low dose Deca...but Primo and Var are really expensive so I might just try blasts of higher Test with MAst and tbol to be on the cheap with my 2 blasts a year...so far what Ive done never had a problem with conditioning, but I do not do distance....

 

[Rawcorporation]

Ok guys well theres been a lot of great input in here, although some contradicting each other. I've been training hard since last year March. Strength and cardio workouts. All my strength workouts I pound the weights as well as calisthenics. I feel I'm decently strong for a guy my size doing this type of military gut check thing. Especially compared to other guys who do this. Most of them are smaller guys, usually 30 or more lbs lighter than me. I understand the too much mileage too fast thing, because I've already experienced it. As far as overtraining goes, I've had my experience with that as well, and have corrected myself to further prevent that. Although, it is tough since I always try to push my best every workout. I am trying to achieve a great balance between pretty fast and pretty strong (in my definition). I know its possible because there are guys in my field that are just that. Some of them on gear.

One of my training buddies is on equipoise right now, he's on it because his friend told him it helped a lot. It looks to be true because my buddy has been ridiculously faster, and has more endurance. Granted he is training harder than he ever has. But I think the gear is what gave him the ability to have a quick recovery from the grueling workouts we do. His run times have dropped dramatically in the past 2 months. That is why I'm very interested in taking gear. I know that gear rapidly boosts all those things (testosterone, gh levels etc) that really aid in faster recovery. I came to these forums to figure out what would be the best gear to take. Whether I get on equipoise just like him, or something else, maybe a combination. I dont know, that's why I'm on here to ask you guys who are more knowledgable with gear than I am. I've done tons of reading on gear, but havent really been able to find out what gear best suits me. I'd much rather take pills over injections. Also, not any gear that would screw up my joints. Joints are old enough as is. Does anyone know if anavar or clenbuterol, or a combo of both have equal recovery results as equipoise? Or is there some other gear I should look into?

 

[Power36]

Everyone is different genetics and responds differently to training, diet, supplements, roids...

Unless you are currently in a pipeline you MUST do the gut check training, why are you doing it? There are much smarter ways to train for strength with speed for your specific job functions if that is your goal...gut check training and all the fad circuit training "who is tough" is crap for long term progress as an athlete or tactical athlete....

Im no roid expert so I cant help ya on that, guys are going to tell you to do injects over pills, and then there is figuring out what legit gear you could get, hiding it from whatever occupation you are involved with whether you are military or a contract guy maybe it doesnt matter as much, and will you have PCT and all the stuff you need to do it right if you have chance of being deployed in middle of cycle...and if you guys are in a pipeline for training or making a unit gosh I think it would be hard to be able to do all you need to with injects or pills and keep it hidden without risking your career...

Maybe search threads for what the MMA and football stacks are, if you are a tactical athlete your job probably has a lot of similar qualities to football and MMA guys when the crap hits the fan, and plenty of them juice their nuts off....see whats popular for athletes and think about those roids...

So many variables we could discuss....training especially....whats your end training goals, how long do you have to get to them, how many days a week can you devote, whats your other life stressors right now, etc

 

[joeblow12345]

Ok guys well theres been a lot of great input in here, although some contradicting each other. I've been training hard since last year March. Strength and cardio workouts. All my strength workouts I pound the weights as well as calisthenics. I feel I'm decently strong for a guy my size doing this type of military gut check thing. Especially compared to other guys who do this. Most of them are smaller guys, usually 30 or more lbs lighter than me. I understand the too much mileage too fast thing, because I've already experienced it. As far as overtraining goes, I've had my experience with that as well, and have corrected myself to further prevent that. Although, it is tough since I always try to push my best every workout. I am trying to achieve a great balance between pretty fast and pretty strong (in my definition). I know its possible because there are guys in my field that are just that. Some of them on gear.

One of my training buddies is on equipoise right now, he's on it because his friend told him it helped a lot. It looks to be true because my buddy has been ridiculously faster, and has more endurance. Granted he is training harder than he ever has. But I think the gear is what gave him the ability to have a quick recovery from the grueling workouts we do. His run times have dropped dramatically in the past 2 months. That is why I'm very interested in taking gear. I know that gear rapidly boosts all those things (testosterone, gh levels etc) that really aid in faster recovery. I came to these forums to figure out what would be the best gear to take. Whether I get on equipoise just like him, or something else, maybe a combination. I dont know, that's why I'm on here to ask you guys who are more knowledgable with gear than I am. I've done tons of reading on gear, but havent really been able to find out what gear best suits me. I'd much rather take pills over injections. Also, not any gear that would screw up my joints. Joints are old enough as is. Does anyone know if anavar or clenbuterol, or a combo of both have equal recovery results as equipoise? Or is there some other gear I should look into?

Juice does speed recovery time thats why when your on every training session you can go balls to the wall and 2 days latter your 100%. If your going to do equipoise train your ass off and eat like your on a cutting cycle. This way youll burn fat and reduce water retention from the juice. The lighter weight will enable you to go faster longer. And you wont gain a lot of weight. I know alot of people take juice to gain, but for strength atheletes and endurance atheletes weight gain isnt optimal. Thats why its better to lose fat and gain a little lean mass. You should not eat like your bulking. If you do youll get slower. When your in the juice your cardio needs to be more intense than normal to achieve your goals. Some blood doping would also aide an endurance athlete. Withdraw your own blood a couple weekd before your test then inject it back in your veins the night before. If you have access to epo it will do the same thing.


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[stevesmi]

Sorry for not replying back sooner guys. I appreciate all the help. My computer went down, busy schedule plus holidays all contributed to me not getting back to this thread. Anyways let me clarify my situation some more. I am 5'6 weigh 168 in the morning after a piss and a crap, fluctuate up to 172 during the day. Like I said I am trying to drop my run times while also keeping my strength and continue to get stronger. I take muscle pharm assault with added beta alanine and l-carnitine before my strength workouts and I take 40g of protein post workout after my runs, swims and strength workouts.

I run a 10:23 mile and a half. I need to drop that time to 9:30 ASAP while also getting stronger. I know that losing some weight will help me get my run times down, but every time I adjust my diet to lost weight I also lose strength and some endurance. I researched clenbuterol because I read that's what track people use. What would be the best route for me to go? Clen alone, Clen with equipoise, mrsupps helladrol stack, etc? I know I can get my run time down eventually but I am in need of improving very quickly, within 1-2 months max. Please let me know if I need to clarify on any other details.

those run times are faster than ANYONE on this entire board with the exception of MAYBE 1 or 2 guys. not sure why you want to run juice and ruin those times, cause that is what will happen.

take it from me who was a former endurance athlete. you are doing great right now, yes it takes time to recover and most AAS will help you recover faster, but they will also wreck your endurance so its definately not worth it. there is a myth out there cause of a documentary that some overweight dude who never worked out in his life made called "bigger, faster, stronger" so now guys think if they juice they will become all 3 of those things. the bigger and stronger part are partially true, any dummy who juices and works out and eats will likely get bigger and stronger. but the faster part is a myth. juicing will NOT improve your 1.5 mile time. it will cripple it.

also clenbuterol DO NOT MESS WITH THAT!!! talk about an endurance killer!

your current times blow away 99% of juicers times. I have a buddy who juiced and who spent more time looking at porn then training, who did the 1.5 mile run for his govt/military job and he got 14 minutes lol. and they shook his hand and congradulating the slow fuck after for passing and rewarded him with a 6 figure job overseas. its really pathetic if you ask me! good for you for actually training your ass off and trying to strive for something special. you will earn the respect of your peers

also I will tell you right now the worst thing you can do is try and copy what your friend did. lots of times friends are full of shit and don't have your best interests at heart. i guarantee you give it a few weeks and your friends times will get worse, not better once the eq really kicks in.

and yes train 6 times per week. you won't get faster doing it 3X per week, you might mantain but forget about getting faster. as an ironman once told me you want to improve your time RUN MORE! just don't overtrain when it comes to interval training and dont train often on hard surfaces and stay healthy. good luck

I don't know if you know the ABC's to endurance running but the heart rate is crucial. this is how they found out that lady cheated in the marathon back in the 80's. and I don't know how old you are, not sure if you posted it. but lets assume your max heart rate is 190. and when you run that 1.5 miles you are probably running at 175 heart rate since you are gonna be busting your ass and going balls to the walls. if you start juicing and especially run CLEN what happens is your maximum heart rate drops to lets say 175-180. then you will only be able to hit 160-165 heart rate during your run.. you are gonna get slower. you won't be able to rack off more RPM's, just like in a car. hope that explanation makes sense to you and others on this board.

 

[Judo Tom]

if you are gonna take something start w/ a low dose of test.. something like 300mg per week. add some unleashed if you need a lil more boost. id also take a low dose of formastanzol and maybe some baby aspirin after a few weeks..

 

[needtogetaas]

So here is my situation. I'm looking for what is the best gear to use to speed recovery in order to improve my performance faster. I'm 29. Recovery Is the main priority, endurance second, then strength. I don't care about size or looks. I am training for a military job where I need to excel in swim, calisthenics, and running. I'm all good in the swim and calisthenics area. My run is not up to the standards I want to be at. I train 2-3 times a days 6 days a week. One run and/or swim workout then a weight/strength workout.

One of my training partners recently started taking equipose. He's 3 weeks into it and his recovery and performance especially in the running department have really improved. He just takes equipose because that is what his friend used to take. He told me to just use equipose too but i'd like to find out what is the best for my goals. Is equipose the best gear for my goals? I looked into anavar, but I'm not sure since I am a beginner to taking gear. I prefer an oral, but will use injectable if that's the best. I don't need bodybuilder stacks just something to boost my ability to recover from my hard workouts faster. Preferably something mild and easy with not too many side effects.

If I need to clarify anything else just let me know.

Do I think you have to have steroids to reach your goal? No You do not. WIll it help a lot? yes of course it will but you do not need it..

If you wanted a steroid cycle that will work for you try this..

1-4 Helladrol 4 caps a day spread out
1-6 Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before emals.
1-6 Gear 3 caps 4 times a day
1-4 N2guard 7 caps every day
1-4 Brdige 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 forma-stanzol 5 pumps in the morning and 5 pumps at night
4-8 forged post cycle 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps at night.
followed by 4 weeks of sarsm S-4 25mg twice a day..



I feel you could use Just the Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day and the Gear 3 caps 4 times a day all before meals and I feel this will help with everything you are looking for. You could add in Rs-transaderm too... The store write ups on these products are very well done and will teach you a lot. Read them if you want to know more.

 

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Needto if I go with that cycle, do i need to stop taking all my other preworkout supps? Like the assault, beta alanine, l-citruline.

Thank you to everybody for all your replies

 

[Rawcorporation]

Ok so after going over NeedTo's recommendations, I didnt know what serm s4 was so I did some reading to find out. Now instead of going the prohormone route I'm leaning more towards a stack of all 3 serms (osta, s4, gw501516). From all the reading about this stuff, it also helps a lot with joints, which is definitely something I need. Also the gw is said to help with endurance, which is another big plus for me. Does anyone know if I need to take anything else with the serms, like bridge or forma stanzol etc? I'm also doing my best to keep costs down.