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SgtSlaughter
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fat is the new skinny
gettnlarge01
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When you learn how to drop bodyfat you can enjoy getting fat on a good bulker.
s8nlilhlpr
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I'd rather gain all my weight at once, then worry about "watery looking abs" than spend 10 years spinning my wheels. Finally crossed into the 200lb club, and no end in sight.
needfasp3ed
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can anyone explain my no xplod problem i had a few days ago? i ate about 2 hours before i took it
Protobuilder
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Try the diet or supps forum, bud. They may have some NO2 experts.
BiggT
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needfasp3ed said:
First you need to tell me what a typical day's eating has been like for you since you started this thread. Then you need to tell me whether or not you started recording your workouts. Then you need to tell me what lifts you're doing and if they were all at least 5lbs more this week than last.
needfasp3ed
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BiggT said:
an average meal for me would be ..
Breakfast- eggs, sausage, milk , pop tart
Next - i'll bring a turkey sandwich to school to eat before lunch
Lunch- School lunch varies
Afternoon - 2 yogurts, ramen noodles, milk
Dinner - Fried chicken, salad, milk, cookies
Late night- ramen noodles again, frozen pizza
Protobuilder
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It's not great but not that bad. Just eat MORE of it. Preferably more MEAT or protein of some sort.
beerdrinker
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Definitely get you some more fruits and vegetables in there. Not because it will help you gain weight, but because it's unhealthy to not have them in your diet. Otherwise, it doesn't look that bad to me. Looks like enough protein to get the job done, so add more calories.
Tweakle
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helllllllllloooooo fatpants
I wouldn't reccomend you doing 10oz steak and yams, flax and broccoli every other meal as you're in school but that is a truely shitty diet imo
drop all the processed food, especially the ramen and pizza and the fried chicken and have ground beef with rice and some mixed veggies as a chilli or just as 'slop' to replace 3 of those meals
shakes made with 4 whole eggs and some protien & oats for the other meals.
I wouldn't reccomend you doing 10oz steak and yams, flax and broccoli every other meal as you're in school but that is a truely shitty diet imo
drop all the processed food, especially the ramen and pizza and the fried chicken and have ground beef with rice and some mixed veggies as a chilli or just as 'slop' to replace 3 of those meals
shakes made with 4 whole eggs and some protien & oats for the other meals.
Protobuilder
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JKurz1 said:
Go back to counting almonds.
It's not great but c'mon. He ain't dieting for the Olympia. He's a young guy who needs to GAIN WEIGHT. Unless he's a total slob, or an endo who can't stop gaining fat, he'll be fine if he eats ENOUGH to gain weight. I don't care if he gets his carbs from asparagus and whole oats or from big bowls of Wheat Chex. Probably not as healthy but he's not looking to fight colon cancer. He's looking to gain weight. You'd probably shit yourself if the guy fried up 8 whole eggs and ate them w/ sausage & 6 Eggo waffles for breakfast. I wouldn't, so long as he packing on the weight and lifting smart.
As long as his protein is high, and he gets enough cals to move the scale, doesn't really matter much where they come from.
Cynical Simian
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The diet is pretty horrible, but the funny thing is that, if you stick with and progress on a program and eat enough of those shitty foods, you'll still gain more muscle than jkurz.
With that said, at least try to fix some of the more egregiously unhealthy stuff by following Tweakle's advice or heading over to the diet forum and starting a thread there.
With that said, at least try to fix some of the more egregiously unhealthy stuff by following Tweakle's advice or heading over to the diet forum and starting a thread there.
Protobuilder
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I don't pretend to know more than CS or Tweakle but I really don't think there's a problem. Let's look at it:
He's 17 years old. 6' tall. 155 pounds. And "ripped" according to his own words. And that's while eating:
Now, one by one . . .
Breakfast: who can complain about eggs, milk, & sausage? Some fat and probably not the most "heart healthy" but again, he's 17. He won't drop dead. Pop-tarts . . . sugar. So what? It's not that bad. And he's got some carbs and probably feels pretty full after this meal. If they all were like this, he wouldn't be 155 anymore.
Next: turkey sandwich. Good. Probably need to eat 2 of them and really pile on teh turkey. Add a lot of mayo to get some more cals. What's the problem? It probably should be on whole wheat bread or something. And rather than mayo, he should probably eat a bagfull of almonds or something (I'm being serious, not snarky).
Lunch: school lunch. OK. This sucks. LoL Eat at least TWO and a half-gallon of milk thta you bring from home.
Afternoon: milk, raman, 2 yogurts . . . starchy carbs . . . again, so what? He could eat a "whole grain" carb instead or something but this won't hurt him. Yogurts have sugar, which should probably be minimized but 2 measly yogurts won't hurt a 17 y.o. Milk. MMmmm. . . good. Drink more. He doesn't have enough protein here. That's a problem.
Dinner: fried chicken, milk, cookies, salad . . .a few cookies won't hurt anyone AND THIS GUY IS 155 FREAKING POUNDS! He's clearly not bingeing and getting fat on cookies. OK, here's a simple fix: no more than 2 cookies for dessert. Fried chicken? Tastes good. Probably eats a lot and gets a lot of protein. And he's still 'ripped' so what's the problem? Milk. Good. Drink more. Salad. Good.
Late night: more raman & pizza. LoL Not so good. WHERE'S THE PROTEIN? I was gonna' say drop some of these carbs but what's the point? HE'S NOT GAINING WEIGHT. The carbs probably help fuel good workouts the next day. My only beef here is he's not getting enough BEEF! Eat your raman and pizza. Wash it down w/ a half gallon of milk. But before touching those carbs, WOLF DOWN A STEAK OR A DOZEN EGG WHITES OR A CARTON OF COTTAGE CHEESE. Protein first. Then whatever you want. This ensures he gets enough protein.
I just don't see it as a major problem for a young guy having trouble gaining weight. Some sugar and starchy carbs won't matter much. I will say that he DOES need more protein. Otherwise, not healthy or great, but not that bad. He'll survive. Just needs MORE FOOD.
He's 17 years old. 6' tall. 155 pounds. And "ripped" according to his own words. And that's while eating:
Now, one by one . . .
Breakfast: who can complain about eggs, milk, & sausage? Some fat and probably not the most "heart healthy" but again, he's 17. He won't drop dead. Pop-tarts . . . sugar. So what? It's not that bad. And he's got some carbs and probably feels pretty full after this meal. If they all were like this, he wouldn't be 155 anymore.
Next: turkey sandwich. Good. Probably need to eat 2 of them and really pile on teh turkey. Add a lot of mayo to get some more cals. What's the problem? It probably should be on whole wheat bread or something. And rather than mayo, he should probably eat a bagfull of almonds or something (I'm being serious, not snarky).
Lunch: school lunch. OK. This sucks. LoL Eat at least TWO and a half-gallon of milk thta you bring from home.
Afternoon: milk, raman, 2 yogurts . . . starchy carbs . . . again, so what? He could eat a "whole grain" carb instead or something but this won't hurt him. Yogurts have sugar, which should probably be minimized but 2 measly yogurts won't hurt a 17 y.o. Milk. MMmmm. . . good. Drink more. He doesn't have enough protein here. That's a problem.
Dinner: fried chicken, milk, cookies, salad . . .a few cookies won't hurt anyone AND THIS GUY IS 155 FREAKING POUNDS! He's clearly not bingeing and getting fat on cookies. OK, here's a simple fix: no more than 2 cookies for dessert. Fried chicken? Tastes good. Probably eats a lot and gets a lot of protein. And he's still 'ripped' so what's the problem? Milk. Good. Drink more. Salad. Good.
Late night: more raman & pizza. LoL Not so good. WHERE'S THE PROTEIN? I was gonna' say drop some of these carbs but what's the point? HE'S NOT GAINING WEIGHT. The carbs probably help fuel good workouts the next day. My only beef here is he's not getting enough BEEF! Eat your raman and pizza. Wash it down w/ a half gallon of milk. But before touching those carbs, WOLF DOWN A STEAK OR A DOZEN EGG WHITES OR A CARTON OF COTTAGE CHEESE. Protein first. Then whatever you want. This ensures he gets enough protein.
I just don't see it as a major problem for a young guy having trouble gaining weight. Some sugar and starchy carbs won't matter much. I will say that he DOES need more protein. Otherwise, not healthy or great, but not that bad. He'll survive. Just needs MORE FOOD.
Protobuilder
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JKurz1 said:
Solid analysis. But you left out "poopyhead."
Protobuilder
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I get major pumps from the Blueberry ones, although chocolate w/ chocolate icing are good for lazerlike focus.
The placebo group gained more weight b/c they weren't raising their cortisol by worrying so goddamn much.
The placebo group gained more weight b/c they weren't raising their cortisol by worrying so goddamn much.
BiggT
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Wow, I just saw all the replies after I asked what the young man has been eating, lol
There's NOTHING wrong with breakfast. Make sure you have at least 4 whole eggs and eat a good bit of sausage or bacon. A whole wheat bagel or whole wheat toast is obviously ''better'' than a poptart, lol, but what everyone is missing is that this is a 17 year old kid WHO DOES NOT HAVE A WEIGHT PROBLEM, lol, if a few pop tarts AFTER all that protein are satisfying, eat them, who gives a fuck, you need cals and you aren't fat.
Turkey Sandwich...no problem...hell, I've dieted down to a washboard stomach the ladies love by slathering mayo on my sandwiches, pile on enough turkey, add some lettuce and tomato, even eat 2 sandwiches, I see no problem.....unless you're eating jars of it with a spoon and then rubbing whatever you couldn't get with the spoon on your naked body, mayo on a mother-fucking sandwich won't make you fat.
School lunch depends on the school....if it is a 'balanced' lunch it probably isn't Grade A quality, but it isn't garbage either....if it is chicken nuggets or salisbury steak or whatever, nothing wrong with that, order 2, get a bunch of milks and eat the salad/veggie too.......don't go to the diet board, they'll have you bring in to school a cooler filled with brown rice and tuna and flax, and honestly, if I saw you doing that in high school, I'd make a point to call you a fag, lol.......I went from 160-235 between 8th and 12th grade, I didn't ''get fat''...in fact my body comp improved, and I thought ''juice'' was orange juice til I got to college.
What's everybody's problem with dinner? lol, it isn't K F mother-fucking C....his mom probably made it from quality ingredients, 2 breasts are probably damn near 80grams of protein, and breading and frying and cookies for dessert aren't a problem when you are 155 ripped lbs at 6' tall and have problems gaining weight.....plus, I doubt mom fries chicken every night, this is the family dinner, right?? I am sure there's red meat, steaks, meatloaf thrown in there too.....eat up, get your protein first, kill 2 big fried breasts, then shovel in all the sides you can, then go to town on the cookies......again, a BB board would recommend making your own dinner of half a can of tuna, 2 grapes, and 1/4 teaspoon of olive oil, if you were my brother and I saw you eat like that at dinner, I'd first give you a wedgie so hard your pants would rip, then I'd kick your ass.
Ramen Noodles are for drunks and pot heads and college slobs......I'd bag them and go with lots of milk and a bunch of PB and J sandwiches. ....
Nothing wrong with pizza either.....first, have a little salad, then drink a protein shake, then eat pizza until you can't move......
Seriously, the diet isn't jaw-droppingly aweful.....keep protein high, eat enough eggs (I have a feeling you're only doing 1 or 2.....try 4 for starters and whole eggs, egg whites are for fags....so are egg substitute products).....Ramen noodles are for fags too, drop them for something else high in cals and protein.....make sure to eat a real school lunch, don't go to the ice cream and twinkie line.......that's it man, don't sweat it and overcomplicate......the guy shoveling down chocolate milk and pizza will build a lot more muscle than the guy who doesnt get enough cals because they micromanage their diets, and the pizza and chocolate milk guy shouldn't get fat either unless he's really stupid and excessive, or he has a thyroid problem,lol.
There's NOTHING wrong with breakfast. Make sure you have at least 4 whole eggs and eat a good bit of sausage or bacon. A whole wheat bagel or whole wheat toast is obviously ''better'' than a poptart, lol, but what everyone is missing is that this is a 17 year old kid WHO DOES NOT HAVE A WEIGHT PROBLEM, lol, if a few pop tarts AFTER all that protein are satisfying, eat them, who gives a fuck, you need cals and you aren't fat.
Turkey Sandwich...no problem...hell, I've dieted down to a washboard stomach the ladies love by slathering mayo on my sandwiches, pile on enough turkey, add some lettuce and tomato, even eat 2 sandwiches, I see no problem.....unless you're eating jars of it with a spoon and then rubbing whatever you couldn't get with the spoon on your naked body, mayo on a mother-fucking sandwich won't make you fat.
School lunch depends on the school....if it is a 'balanced' lunch it probably isn't Grade A quality, but it isn't garbage either....if it is chicken nuggets or salisbury steak or whatever, nothing wrong with that, order 2, get a bunch of milks and eat the salad/veggie too.......don't go to the diet board, they'll have you bring in to school a cooler filled with brown rice and tuna and flax, and honestly, if I saw you doing that in high school, I'd make a point to call you a fag, lol.......I went from 160-235 between 8th and 12th grade, I didn't ''get fat''...in fact my body comp improved, and I thought ''juice'' was orange juice til I got to college.
What's everybody's problem with dinner? lol, it isn't K F mother-fucking C....his mom probably made it from quality ingredients, 2 breasts are probably damn near 80grams of protein, and breading and frying and cookies for dessert aren't a problem when you are 155 ripped lbs at 6' tall and have problems gaining weight.....plus, I doubt mom fries chicken every night, this is the family dinner, right?? I am sure there's red meat, steaks, meatloaf thrown in there too.....eat up, get your protein first, kill 2 big fried breasts, then shovel in all the sides you can, then go to town on the cookies......again, a BB board would recommend making your own dinner of half a can of tuna, 2 grapes, and 1/4 teaspoon of olive oil, if you were my brother and I saw you eat like that at dinner, I'd first give you a wedgie so hard your pants would rip, then I'd kick your ass.
Ramen Noodles are for drunks and pot heads and college slobs......I'd bag them and go with lots of milk and a bunch of PB and J sandwiches. ....
Nothing wrong with pizza either.....first, have a little salad, then drink a protein shake, then eat pizza until you can't move......
Seriously, the diet isn't jaw-droppingly aweful.....keep protein high, eat enough eggs (I have a feeling you're only doing 1 or 2.....try 4 for starters and whole eggs, egg whites are for fags....so are egg substitute products).....Ramen noodles are for fags too, drop them for something else high in cals and protein.....make sure to eat a real school lunch, don't go to the ice cream and twinkie line.......that's it man, don't sweat it and overcomplicate......the guy shoveling down chocolate milk and pizza will build a lot more muscle than the guy who doesnt get enough cals because they micromanage their diets, and the pizza and chocolate milk guy shouldn't get fat either unless he's really stupid and excessive, or he has a thyroid problem,lol.
BiggT
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As for the question about No2.....I don't know, lol...I just wanted to see how diet and training were and if you heeded any advice.....No2 is for dip shits who like to waste money.....if you were my little brother, I'd beat you to a pulp with the No2 bottle, then return it and buy some steak and eggs and milk, and focus on lifting and get big and strong, while you focused on happy horse shit and never got above 155lbs
JKurz1
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gain more weight?? ABSOLUTLEY......but who wants sloppy weight big t.....his diet fucking blows....you know it and I know it.......turkey sandwhiches are fine....eat em, use ww bread if you can and lose the mayo, but they are fine......pop tarts do nothing but add cals....might as well have a few candy bars......breakfast, eggs, bacon etc...fine.
BiggT said:
SgtSlaughter
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BiggT is right on about the diet...
the kid is 17... if I only knew then what i know now. (aka what do you have to loose by trying to eat more?? ... you start getting chubbier than you like then cut back or do some cardio ---- simple solution)
Eat up bro... you're metabolism will rip through food if my high school years at a skinny 6' are any indication.
the kid is 17... if I only knew then what i know now. (aka what do you have to loose by trying to eat more?? ... you start getting chubbier than you like then cut back or do some cardio ---- simple solution)
Eat up bro... you're metabolism will rip through food if my high school years at a skinny 6' are any indication.
javaguru
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arteriosclerosis
"Atherosclerosis typically begins in early adolescence, and is usually found in most major arteries, yet is asymptomatic and not detected by most diagnostic methods during life. Autopsies of healthy young men who died during the Korean and Vietnam Wars showed evidence of the disease. It most commonly becomes seriously symptomatic when interfering with the coronary circulation supplying the heart or cerebral circulation supplying the brain, and is considered the most important underlying cause of strokes, heart attacks, various heart diseases including congestive heart failure and most cardiovascular diseases in general. Atheroma in arm or more often leg arteries and producing decreased blood flow is called Peripheral artery occlusive disease (PAOD)." (Emphasis mine)
Telling this kid his diet is ok amounts to negligence at best. Clean it up if you don't want an early angioplasty. I started eating healthy in my late teens and at 35 I have an amazing blood lipid profile and overall general health. He needs to head over to the diet board.
"Atherosclerosis typically begins in early adolescence, and is usually found in most major arteries, yet is asymptomatic and not detected by most diagnostic methods during life. Autopsies of healthy young men who died during the Korean and Vietnam Wars showed evidence of the disease. It most commonly becomes seriously symptomatic when interfering with the coronary circulation supplying the heart or cerebral circulation supplying the brain, and is considered the most important underlying cause of strokes, heart attacks, various heart diseases including congestive heart failure and most cardiovascular diseases in general. Atheroma in arm or more often leg arteries and producing decreased blood flow is called Peripheral artery occlusive disease (PAOD)." (Emphasis mine)
Telling this kid his diet is ok amounts to negligence at best. Clean it up if you don't want an early angioplasty. I started eating healthy in my late teens and at 35 I have an amazing blood lipid profile and overall general health. He needs to head over to the diet board.
Tweakle
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PB posted this vid on another forum, the results of his winter bulker speak for themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwxEA-jurhc&NR
jkurz's cutting diet seems to be paying off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msBSDQSLrLc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwxEA-jurhc&NR
jkurz's cutting diet seems to be paying off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msBSDQSLrLc
Protobuilder
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Genetics.
Granpappy ate nuttin' but gravy and fried chicken an' live to be a hunert.
But gramma', she ate nuttin' but asparagus, fish, oats, and fruit, and died pert near 70.
Granpappy ate nuttin' but gravy and fried chicken an' live to be a hunert.
But gramma', she ate nuttin' but asparagus, fish, oats, and fruit, and died pert near 70.
javaguru
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Read the quote above, it's undetectable by conventional methods and was evidenced in 19 year olds. Likewise, I knew three pack a day smokers who lived into their 70's but I wouldn't conclude that makes it safe. The science is pretty clear, a diet like this kid posted will shorten the lifespan of most people.BiggT said:
Protobuilder
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That's all muscle baaabyyyy!!!
Protobuilder
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JavaGuru said:
You're not wearing any pants. We refuse to listen to men who's avatars have no pants.
Protobuilder
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They never seem to come through. Are you sure you guys are sending them?
JKurz1
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I took your advice for the most part......tell me what you think......not including 2 heay ass cheat meals....i.e. 2 footlong quiaznos, whole pizza. box of oreos...BiggT said:
tonight I am in the mood for a box of fig newtons and some strawberrry quick...I know this is more than you are eating, at least cals wise Big man:
730 PRO CARB FAT
1/2 CUP OATS 5.00 27.00 3.00 150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 18.00 - - 225.00
2 EGG WHITES 6.00 1.00 1.00 80.00
2TB PB 8.00 7.00 16.00 188.00
EZEKIEL ENGLISH MUFFIN 8.00 36.00 1.00 160.00
45.00 71.00 21.00 803.00
10
3oz Flank Steak 21.00 - 3.75 135.00
4oz Buffalo 36 3.00 180
1 1/2 CUP brown rice 3.00 69.00 3.00 330.00
60.00 69.00 9.75 645.00
1230
5oz chicken 33.75 - 3.13 162.50
1 CUP OATS 10.00 54.00 6.00 300.00
43.75 54.00 9.13 462.50
PRETRAIN 3PM
BANANA 1.50 35.00 0.50 121.00
MUSCLE MILK SHAKE 32.00 12.00 18.00 350.00
32.00 12.00 18.00 0 350.00
600ISH
5 PIECES OF TOAST 20.00 75.00 5.00 400.00
2 TB OF PB 9.20 60.00 4.00 320.00
4OZ CHX 8.00 6.00 16.00 210.00
17.20 0 66.00 20.00 0 530.00
900
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS 12.00 1.00 - 65.00
20 almonds 10.00 10.00 18.00 200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND 20.00 5.00 2.00 120.00
42.00 16.00 0 20.00 0 385.00
VEGGIES TO SNACK ON
239.95 288.00 97.88 - 3,175.50
needfasp3ed
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wow... a lot to read...sounds like i need to change my diet completely according to most of you. I'll admit, my family doesnt exactly have all the money in the world so its hard to do EVERYTHING you guys say, so please cut me a LITTLE break. HMMM, let me eat a few more days and check back with what i ate
needfasp3ed
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i see some of you seem like you are doubting my "ripped body" lol so ill just post a pic
i feel like i gotta prove everything lol
i feel like i gotta prove everything lol
Protobuilder
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needfasp3ed said:
Can you read? Half think your diet needs major work and half think it's fine for the most part, you just need to eat more.
Your statement about your family is pretty much exactly why myself and BiggT are saying don't sweat the small stuff.
Cynical Simian
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I must admit I've never understood the "healthy food is expensive" argument, given the premium on commercially processed/prepared foods. Calories don't get much cheaper than natural peanut butter, olive oil, oats, and other "one-ingredient" foods.
Protobuilder
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You're right and I hadn't thought about that. The processed packaged crap is costly. I was thinking more along the lines of, it's fargin' expensive to buy a gallon of milk a day ($3), 18 eggs a day ($1.50), and eat piles of meat each day.
SgtSlaughter
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avoid the organic i've grown my own eggs with pure breed lebanses cluck-clucks that are albino and poop an opalesent shiny egg and you should be fine in the money department.
JKurz1
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I am CRAVING bananana and pb.....afterall, I am trying to put on clean weight so why am I limiting myself? What are your thoughts on adding a banana to my first meal and dropping the ezekiel english muffin and maybe replacing it with some low carb bread.......then maybe a few pb and banana sandwhiches throughout the day......thoughts?
Protobuilder
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Fine if you want to add sloppy weight. Try half a banana instead.
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