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shape

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in 4th week of testosterone propionate 100 mg eod and trenbolone ace 75mg eod--well the testosterone propionate hurts so god dam much could not shoot arse anymore so doing primarily delts switching sides EOD--well did a shot yesterday in left delt felt fine--i woke up at 12 am in such pain i was almost brought to tears--feels like someone tried to chainsaw off my shoulder while i was sleeping--its 15 hours later and still feels the same--testosterone propionate is just not worth it--and this is EO based testosterone propionate

and todays shoulder workout day--i cant even lift me arm--so there goes that--prop is not worth it
 
Why not shoot in the glute or quad then? I dont have any real problems with prop. Shoot some suspension, then complain about prop.
 
bro, try shooting before you go to the gym. its worked for many of people i know. if you working shoulders, shoot your delts before going to the gym, if your working legs, shoot quads... trust me it will get rid of nearly almost all the pain. i dont know why more people dont try this.........
 
sorry to hear that bro. Im on my first cycle, and its test prop and npp. Im sticking ed. In 3rd week, doesnt hurt a bit except in the quads a little. But i think its because its pharma, UK amps. Supposed to be best shit money can buy. My boy is about to start hittin some LSP prop so Ill ask him how he feels.
 
Seems like a waste of tren at 75mg EOD. Why not drop to a daily injection of .7ml, or (70mg prop and about 50mg tren) to keep your injection smaller and your levels constant. I run tren and prop daily and cycle between both quads, both glutes and both delts.
 
i know wut u'r talking about bro, i started my cycle last week.. 120 eod and that shit HURTS.. believe it or not, 400 mgs ibuprofen first thing in the morning and i'm good to go all day.
of course, a warm/hot shower and massage will help as well.. good luck
 
xrsist said:
bro, try shooting before you go to the gym. its worked for many of people i know. if you working shoulders, shoot your delts before going to the gym, if your working legs, shoot quads... trust me it will get rid of nearly almost all the pain. i dont know why more people dont try this.........

this is true for me as well,,,,
 
You think that hurts, try shooting TREN/PROP/MAST combo at 100mgs of each in 1 cc and winny suspension 100mgs ed. Then you will be in some pain. I have been on this cycle for a week now and hoping my body will start taking it better. If it doesn't oh well I guess I will be in a little pain. Suck it up son!
 
Get tough. That's just how it goes. Try heating the gear up a bit before you inject. Put a microwave hot pack on the area for about 5-10 minutes after the injection and massage the area. That stuff all helps a ton believe it or not.
 
been using Proform Prop for weeks, never once has it given me any pain...
 
604 said:
how long does propionate usually take to feel/see the effects of it after first shot

I just started a test prop/tren cycle 50mg daily last Monday, and I was feeling stronger during my Saturday workout.
 
if it hurts that bad it probably didn't absorb right, and you might be developing an abcess. Try it in the ass.......I'm shooting prop/npp in the same syringe, and yeah....there's a "bit" of knot there that's "mildly" uncomfortable.......but if it's causing you not to sleep there's something wrong. I don't shoot in the quads because it's immediately too painful, like before I even start to inject the quads are twitching all over the place........so I can imagine if I was shooting prop into my quads, I would have problems.......some people just can't inject in certain places.
 
Tried some deca from ug labs a while ago and it hurt like fuck. Injection site was swelling up after every injection. Stopped that shit straight away. Managed to get some russian test prop and beleive me the injections are literally painless.
 
try to massage the area after word to help the absorption process, that makes all my injections pain free.
 
redsamurai said:
if it hurts that bad it probably didn't absorb right, and you might be developing an abcess. Try it in the ass.......I'm shooting testosterone propionate/NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - in the same syringe, and yeah....there's a "bit" of knot there that's "mildly" uncomfortable.......but if it's causing you not to sleep there's something wrong. I don't shoot in the quads because it's immediately too painful, like before I even start to inject the quads are twitching all over the place........so I can imagine if I was shooting testosterone propionate into my quads, I would have problems.......some people just can't inject in certain places.
That's not true - prop in a concentrated dose is painful, there's no getting around it. Im taking a prop/tren/mast blend and this shit hurts like hell and it has nothing to do with an abcess or poor absorbsion. Right now I'm totally gimpy. Shoulders, quads and glutes all hurt. BUT, you can't beat the results of this combo (plus I'm taking eq at 600mg ew) The shit we go through haha - we're all idiots.
 
shape said:
in 4th week of testosterone propionate 100 mg eod and trenbolone ace 75mg eod--well the testosterone propionate hurts so god dam much could not shoot arse anymore so doing primarily delts switching sides EOD--well did a shot yesterday in left delt felt fine--i woke up at 12 am in such pain i was almost brought to tears--feels like someone tried to chainsaw off my shoulder while i was sleeping--its 15 hours later and still feels the same--testosterone propionate is just not worth it--and this is EO based testosterone propionate

and todays shoulder workout day--i cant even lift me arm--so there goes that--testosterone propionate is not worth it
I shoot my test prop just about every where and i dont get any pain like what you are saying.hmmmm
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
That's not true - testosterone propionate in a concentrated dose is painful, there's no getting around it. Im taking a testosterone propionate/trenbolone/mast blend and this shit hurts like hell and it has nothing to do with an abcess or poor absorbsion. Right now I'm totally gimpy. Shoulders, quads and glutes all hurt. BUT, you can't beat the results of this combo (plus I'm taking Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - at 600mg ew) The shit we go through haha - we're all idiots.

it's not the prop per se that hurts......it's the alcohol that it is suspended in. Most UG labs are cutting with minute traces of other solvents to help.........if you're totally gimpy than there's no point to a cycle. Find some other shit........I haven't tried EO yet, but I"ve heard it makes injects absolutely painless. You could just buy some EO and add it to the syringe after you draw out the prop.........
 
redsamurai said:
it's not the testosterone propionate per se that hurts......it's the alcohol that it is suspended in. Most UG labs are cutting with minute traces of other solvents to help.........if you're totally gimpy than there's no point to a cycle. Find some other shit........I haven't tried EO yet, but I"ve heard it makes injects absolutely painless. You could just buy some EO and add it to the syringe after you draw out the testosterone propionate.........
No its the prop too.
 
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
That's not true - testosterone propionate in a concentrated dose is painful, there's no getting around it. Im taking a testosterone propionate/trenbolone/mast blend and this shit hurts like hell and it has nothing to do with an abcess or poor absorbsion. Right now I'm totally gimpy. Shoulders, quads and glutes all hurt. BUT, you can't beat the results of this combo (plus I'm taking Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - at 600mg ew) The shit we go through haha - we're all idiots.

Ha Ha! I am on the same combo as you man, although I am taking winny with it. I feel like I have been severly beaten-up but that won't stop me. I am on the start of my second week and starting to get test flu (kinda sucks, but oh well).
 
EO is glorious. This being my first time with Prop I was expecting the worst, get a nice small pin and shoot the shit.
 
its simple man.....shoot it ed so you only need half the volume and dilute it 50/50 with sterile oil and you'll be ready to rock.....nothing you do will help the pain unless you dilute it....thats high concentrated gear.
 
its really sad when you discover then NO testosterone propionate will work for you lol :(

sorry bro, Sustanon is a good midrange choice which wont cause to much issue if you decide to use it
 
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You can try reducing the test prop to 50mg that works for me or diluting with more oil. Did same thing in the delta by mistake. The whole shoulder got red and felt like someone punched me in the shoulder for a few days. Sucks ass but it will go away in a few days. Sus is much better for me regardless of dose.

Perp
 
redsamurai said:
it's not the testosterone propionate per se that hurts......it's the alcohol that it is suspended in. Most UG labs are cutting with minute traces of other solvents to help.........if you're totally gimpy than there's no point to a cycle. Find some other shit........I haven't tried EO yet, but I"ve heard it makes injects absolutely painless. You could just buy some EO and add it to the syringe after you draw out the testosterone propionate.........

If I'm not mistaken, pro-form does use EO (at least 50% anyway)
 
shape said:
todays shoulder workout day--i cant even lift me arm--so there goes that--testosterone propionate is not worth it


dude grow a set of fucking balls,and push your way through it.

I love test prop,but after every injection I make damn sure to work the muscle I injected into right after the injection....if you do this the experience will become painless.
 
hyp1 said:
dude grow a set of fucking balls,and push your way through it.

I love test testosterone propionate,but after every injection I make damn sure to work the muscle I injected into right after the injection....if you do this the experience will become painless.

Agreed, reminds me of the Bicillin shot we got in bootcamp, intramuscular glute. Cold penicillin syrup. I am glad we had physical training for the next hour afterwards to work that out. Theguys that couldn't exercise due to injuries or just faking were in serious pain afterwards. After every intramuscular inject, I always work that muscle.
 
shape said:
in 4th week of testosterone propionate 100 mg eod and trenbolone ace 75mg eod--well the testosterone propionate hurts so god dam much could not shoot arse anymore so doing primarily delts switching sides EOD--well did a shot yesterday in left delt felt fine--i woke up at 12 am in such pain i was almost brought to tears--feels like someone tried to chainsaw off my shoulder while i was sleeping--its 15 hours later and still feels the same--testosterone propionate is just not worth it--and this is EO based testosterone propionate

and todays shoulder workout day--i cant even lift me arm--so there goes that--testosterone propionate is not worth it
man, that sucks, my eo based prop is smooth as butter, but I know you dont want to hear that, I guess your just reallly sensitive to prop, fuck it, unless your competing, why shoot prop when you can shoot sustonon or omnas with jsut a minute amt of water retention, and then you can get rid of that with letro
 
Working out the muscle after injection and/or heating up the muscle good and/or massaging doesn't do jack shit for me.

Middle of the 6th week on my test E and it just plain gets sore and a little swollen for about 5-6 days after inject.

I've learned to live with it, but I won't shoot legs with it or I might as well not even work out at that point I get super gimped and the stuff uses grapeseed oil.

Got some other stuff that I'm interested to see how it feels next cycle.
 
While working the muscle and using heat etc does help for me. I will tell you what has worked miracles for me the past.. Vioxx. Although it has been takin off the market, you can still find some floating around here and there. The next best thing is Celebrex.. I kid you not, these drugs work wonders for injection pain!

BGI
 
There shouldn't be injection pain, it should be made so it doesn't hurt, I mean if its a wacked concentration like 400mg/ml maybe but if its just like 200 or 250 it shouldn't burn, if one company can make it, why can't they all?
 
Some ppl are just sensitive. I love prop and right now doing primo 200.
Not much pain from any except for some minor discomfort for a day or two.
You all got to massage the area for a few minutes and pin before bed so the oil can disperse over nite.
 
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