first roid cycle

[all the whey]

Oh my,
my post was and SS's posts were deleted, the level of immaturity on behalf of the leadership of this forum is amazing, what happened to having an intelligent debate backed with experience and research rather then simply resorting to the level of deleting your opposers arguement. I think i've been here long enough to deserve a little more respect then that, but then again, it only makes sense to not expect respect from the unrespectable

I am all for intelligent debate.

But, recommending 1,000mg test for first, or second cycle is not intelligent. So, why debate it?

 

[needtogetaas]

I am all for intelligent debate.

But, recommending 1,000mg test for first, or second cycle is not intelligent. So, why debate it?

yes I dont know why we are even taking about this...lets here it some one please post up why some one should take 1000mg for there first cycle.lmfao ya thats what I thought.....

 

[mickeyb69]

I've run 12 cycles so far. And I'm 30

I have used 1g test/week, 500mgs test/week, and 250mgs test/week.
Just because my post count is low does not mean I am a newbie to gear use.

You probably used these amounts in your 1st 2nd and 3rd cycles respectfully, thinking this was how you do drop sets. Still, you haven't told me how you came to the conclusion that 600 mg will yield the same sides as 300. I am guessing you think 1000 mg will give the same sides as 500 mg also.

 

[jaybois]

I've done a couple of 2 year cycles, with a couple of 8 weekers sprinkled in and i have never went over a 1000mg combinded.

 

[Nelson Montana]

There is no difference in side effects when comparing 600mgs test/week to 300mgs test/week.

None whatsoever.

This statement tells me you don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe you don't feel it or notice it, but there's a difference. It's like saying there's no difference bewteen being exposed to X rays for one minute or one second because you can't feel the difference or notice it right away.

 

[holy ghost]

nelson need quick advice!!! what do i do about tennis elbow i have it on both arms now plz help

the tendons on like side of elbow are swollen as shit

i have been icing it a lot for the last few days took a few advil here and there im on heavy aas so my recovery should be a little kicked up

ice/heat combo seems to help

 

[JohnnyWest]

I am all for intelligent debate.

But, recommending 1,000mg test for first, or second cycle is not intelligent. So, why debate it?

Some people have many reasons why they think it is intelligent for a high dose cycle, some have their reasons as to why they think it isn't, so the idea is to debate eachothers reasons and come to a conclusion. i'm just annoyed that posts have been deleted on this thread, just throwing disagreements under the rug rather then facing them

 

[J. Adams]

so you are saying a 1000mg cycle is good for a new person to anabolic androgenic steroids.lets juts get this ??? out there first..lmfao if you are but please let us all know.

So basically, you really have no idea.

The #1 reason why people have problems with 1000mgs test/week is because the eat like crap. Eating like crap well give you just about all the sides one gets from test.

And, a person should only be using AAS once they have had a good 5 years experience lifting and have their diet dialed in. It's only in this case that a person could run 1000mgs test/week. People with little lifting experience and a bad diet have no business using AAS.

 

[rdel85]

I started using when I was 140 pounds....first cycle was 2g sust/week. I ballooned to 180 lbs like you big bros.

 

[JohnnyWest]

ooooooooooooo fucking ya good you asked.lol what you you like me to debunk
.....

Spelling it out, he wants you to try to debunk, from your perspective, why 1g test for a first cycle is a bad idea, from scientific research and/or personal experience. Can you do that?

There have been quite a few threads back in the day as to why 1g test is a good idea, i'll hit on the main points and if anybody wants to discuss it i'll elaborate more.

#1 your first cycle is the best (anecdotal theory of having virgin AR receptors), so why not make the most of it?

#2 Generally speaking, most people, including myself and many i've talked to/read about, experience no difference in side effects from 500mg to 1g, but alot more muscle gain

#3 every cycle does not need to be a consecutively higher dose

There is a huge degree of variables to consider before recommending 500mg or 1g for a fisrt cycle; i would say as a guess the magority of new guys around here are most definitely not ready for a 1g cycle. If you have a good deal of muscle maturity and mass (ie nearing your genetic limit), been training for many years and have your diet dialed in, then it is a great idea because of the above points. But, if you have only been traing for a year or two and are know where near your genetic limit then you will never hold on to the magority of gains, so the extra gear is a waste. Again, speaking from personal experience. I know i'm missing stuff, i'll think of it and post up later.