first roid cycle

[crfpilot14]

I would like to know Needto's credentials as well...If he is going to get on here and give advice and trash others advice, we have a right to know where he gets his info from. I would bet that all of his knowledge comes from reading misinformation on these boards. Needto, are you a physician or Phd scientist?
As far as the recommendation to start with 1g test weekly...it is the mantra of boards like these to only start with test 500mg weekly. There is no evidence showing one is better than the other. And, just because you do a 1g/wk cycle doesnt mean that you cannot grow on less in subsequent cycles. 99.9% of people on here that do a 500mg/wk cycle at first end up stacking something with the test the next cycle...which basically equals 1g test or more. Let the man read the different schools of thought and make his own decision about what is appropriate for him...and not have to read all of the shit talking and whining that EF has begun to foster. JMO of course.

 

[holy ghost]

LOL


well needto's jsut a regular guy with a conservative and safe approach

 

[needtogetaas]

I would like to know Needto's credentials as well...If he is going to get on here and give advice and trash others advice, we have a right to know where he gets his info from. I would bet that all of his knowledge comes from reading misinformation on these boards. Needto, are you a physician or Phd scientist?
As far as the recommendation to start with 1g test weekly...it is the mantra of boards like these to only start with test 500mg weekly. There is no evidence showing one is better than the other. And, just because you do a 1g/wk cycle doesnt mean that you cannot grow on less in subsequent cycles. 99.9% of people on here that do a 500mg/wk cycle at first end up stacking something with the test the next cycle...which basically equals 1g test or more. Let the man read the different schools of thought and make his own decision about what is appropriate for him...and not have to read all of the shit talking and whining that EF has begun to foster. JMO of course.

I'm your fucking daddy bro. lmao

 

[needtogetaas]

Spelling it out, he wants you to try to debunk, from your perspective, why 1g test for a first cycle is a bad idea, from scientific research and/or personal experience. Can you do that?

There have been quite a few threads back in the day as to why 1g test is a good idea, i'll hit on the main points and if anybody wants to discuss it i'll elaborate more.

#1 your first cycle is the best (anecdotal theory of having virgin AR receptors), so why not make the most of it?

#2 Generally speaking, most people, including myself and many i've talked to/read about, experience no difference in side effects from 500mg to 1g, but alot more muscle gain

#3 every cycle does not need to be a consecutively higher dose

There is a huge degree of variables to consider before recommending 500mg or 1g for a fisrt cycle; i would say as a guess the magority of new guys around here are most definitely not ready for a 1g cycle. If you have a good deal of muscle maturity and mass (ie nearing your genetic limit), been training for many years and have your diet dialed in, then it is a great idea because of the above points. But, if you have only been traing for a year or two and are know where near your genetic limit then you will never hold on to the magority of gains, so the extra gear is a waste. Again, speaking from personal experience. I know i'm missing stuff, i'll think of it and post up later.

thats like a perfect cut and past from every thing ulter was telling you when you asked him on the af board...lmao

 

[needtogetaas]

Spelling it out, he wants you to try to debunk, from your perspective, why 1g test for a first cycle is a bad idea, from scientific research and/or personal experience. Can you do that?

There have been quite a few threads back in the day as to why 1g test is a good idea, i'll hit on the main points and if anybody wants to discuss it i'll elaborate more.

#1 your first cycle is the best (anecdotal theory of having virgin AR receptors), so why not make the most of it?

#2 Generally speaking, most people, including myself and many i've talked to/read about, experience no difference in side effects from 500mg to 1g, but alot more muscle gain

#3 every cycle does not need to be a consecutively higher dose

There is a huge degree of variables to consider before recommending 500mg or 1g for a fisrt cycle; i would say as a guess the magority of new guys around here are most definitely not ready for a 1g cycle. If you have a good deal of muscle maturity and mass (ie nearing your genetic limit), been training for many years and have your diet dialed in, then it is a great idea because of the above points. But, if you have only been traing for a year or two and are know where near your genetic limit then you will never hold on to the magority of gains, so the extra gear is a waste. Again, speaking from personal experience. I know i'm missing stuff, i'll think of it and post up later.

ok so you take a new guy to aas who has never used juice ever in his life..."this is a big step not something to take lightly" he has no clue how his body is going to react to aas but we are just going to pump 1000mg into him right of the start.

some people yes feel no deference in sides from 500-1000mg but yes a lot of people do.you want to know why ulter is pimping out 1000mg cycles to you and the rest of the newbs...."MORE SIDES FOR NEWBS =MORE MONEY IN HIS POCKET SO HE CAN SELL YOU SHIT FOR YOUR SIDES.LOL"

I am sorry if I think doing it the safe way stepping into the game one step at a time learning from your body and how it reacts to deferent compounds and deferent doses.learning what to use for sides to them doses or compounds before you jump right in blasting your self with 1000mg is the right thing to do..I am sooooo sorry if I care and I want people to be safe.I am sorry I am not selling things like aifm and I cant make shit loads of money telling you to take 1000mg cycles please kill me I am not a scum bag....




next fucking ??? please.

 

[holy ghost]

LOL needto fuck this guy

help me with my elbow/forearm issues!

 

[needtogetaas]

nelson need quick advice!!! what do i do about tennis elbow i have it on both arms now plz help

the tendons on like side of elbow are swollen as shit

i have been icing it a lot for the last few days took a few advil here and there im on heavy anabolic androgenic steroids so my recovery should be a little kicked up

ice/heat combo seems to help

did this just start to happen or has it bin a on going problem for you????

 

[holy ghost]

did this just start to happen or has it bin a on going problem for you????

ok for last few months
preacher curls KILL
reverse grip kills
forearm workouts kill

i tbar rep 10 plates without straps and DL a fuckload im wondering if this is a culprit but i have pains and nerve sensitivity on outside of flexed elbow any ideas ???

 

[needtogetaas]

ok for last few months
preacher curls KILL
reverse grip kills
forearm workouts kill

i tbar rep 10 plates without straps and DL a fuckload im wondering if this is a culprit but i have pains and nerve sensitivity on outside of flexed elbow any ideas ???

well the first thing I would think is you are going up in weights and lifting a lot.the added might have made you change your form a bit so take a good look at your form and make sure you are doing every thing right.swinging jerking to much things like that...also keep in mind your muscles are growing faster then your bones,joints,and tendons can keep up with...

 

[holy ghost]

yeah so what do you suggest? i can take a week off if i have to, im on heavy aas and great diet so i wont lose muscle


i was going to try a 3 day a week split
going extra light, perfect form

any ideas? fuck im just worried about it persisting

cause by friday i cant even workout my arms my forearms are so fucked

i ordered straps and gloves and chalk that should help about 15-25% im guessing