First Cycle - Please Review

[methan_00]

...only 17.. . You're too young and you should be taking advantage of your natty test levels while they are still high. Steroids will stop you from growing so you should wait until you are 21+. Keep training naturally and eat like a monster and you can break 200 pounds naturally.

 

[ego boner]

not to mention that this is the most NATURALLY developmental stage in your life both in BODY and in your MENTAL views and VALUES you associate with life and living.. the real CORE of who you are... yo u need to grow into an adult before you ENHANCE it while still being able to realize what this stuff does to you and your emotions. Where will your peace of mind be later in life if your values are built on this dramatic of an influence when you dont know who you even are yet.... later when your natural hormones stop being produced naturally by your body.. what then?? like i said-- i feel really sorry for your future psychotherapist cause youll be on xanax by the time you're 25.. then youll be depressed about being out of shape

 

[TimeToGrow]

Ummm... Thanks for the Thread Jack by the 17 year old. Can you experts help me make a RESPONSIBLE descision. Does my stuff below look okay?

And to the 17 yr old... i wanted to do it when i was your age too - i waited 10 more years and you should too.

I am planning on taking my first cycle. Please review.

I am planning on taking 500 MG's of Test a week. I can get testosterone enanthate, Sus, or testosterone cypionate. Sus was suggested but I read otherwise on this board. Why would I choose testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate over Sus? I thought the only difference was the esters/halflife since test is test?

Cycle:

Weeks 1-8: 500mg Test/week
Week 10-15: 20mg Novladex a day.

I wasn't planning on taking HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - should I? I have read contradicting things on HCG.

I plan on eating 4500 calories a day - beef, chicken, ww pasta, brown rice, weight gainer, protein powder, milk, etc.

I am 26, 5' 10", 185lbs, at about 12% BF.

Thoughts? I am really curious about my PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . Do I require HCG and if so why?

I will take any feedback, I have done a lot of research but I am by no means an expert which is why I am asking you to look it over

 

[daveyboy2345]

you won't need HCG. If I were you I would opt for cypionate for 10 weeks at 350 mgs week.

Nolvadex for 4 weeks at 20 mgs p.c.t.

A couple cycles down the road you can use 500 mgs test. week but for now less is more.

Perhaps your next cycle you can try clomid for 4 weeks for pct at 50 mgs day, just to see which compound works better for you in pct.

if your happy with your gains after being on 8 weeks (12-16 lbs) maybe consider ending your cycle at that time and running pct.

ps, if your test cyp. is 250 mgs per cc, then 1.4 cc's would give you 350 mgs., one shot a week is all you need.


good luck!

 

[Nelson Montana]

looool whats the big deal using juice at 17 in fact its one of the best times to start because you literally grow like a weed your just jealous and you wish you could be in my place succccckkkkeeeerrrrrr

I feel sorry for you when the day comes where you say; "How could I have been such an asshole!"

 

[needtogetaas]

I feel sorry for you when the day comes where you say; "How could I have been such an asshole!"

I cant believe this kid even said that.I know theres a no flaming rule but we might have to get brr in this thread and have him give the ok.

 

[Varga]

back to the cycle,
1-10 test of your choice
and I would personaly take HCG. It helps keep nuts normal throughout +I always feel great on it with easy recovery after

 

[rambleon]

to the original poster:

250 mgs ew should do u fine. I think a single ester is most appropriate for a firsttimer becausse its easier to identify the source of any problems that may arise. my suggestion would be test e because of the long halflife which make it easy to keep things stable and because human grade e is cheap and easy to get.

Nolva should be ok for pct. I dont think u'll need hcg but keep an eye on the boys to see if they shrink. U might wanna add some derma sustain. If nolva disagrees with u like it does with xrsist try aromasin or clomid.

All told ur good to go.

To the kid:

Get help. I really hope that the damage ur doing to urself wont be as bad as i think it might.

 

[TimeToGrow]

First of all to everyone who addressed my question - thank you very much!

Question 1
So 250 MGs is a good first cycle? I have read a lot about taking 500? I don't want to go on another cycle for some time so I thought i'd take 500 but if you suggest 250 - i'll trust the experts.

I have clomid and novla on hand (just gotta get my test). So I'll plan on taking the Novla PCT and if it disagrees then i'll use the clomid.

As far as HCG goes - everything I hear has to do with shrunken nuts. I am single and not likely to b e with many girls over the 8-10 weeks I am on gear as I will be concentrating on three things

Eating/Sleeping/Training

Question 2
So can i just live with the shrunken nuts?


Thanks again for all the help. I've looked around and this by far the best site!!!

to the original poster:

250 mgs ew should do u fine. I think a single ester is most appropriate for a firsttimer becausse its easier to identify the source of any problems that may arise. my suggestion would be testosterone enanthate because of the long halflife which make it easy to keep things stable and because human grade e is cheap and easy to get.

Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - should be ok for PCT - post cycle therapy - . I dont think u'll need HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - but keep an eye on the boys to see if they shrink. U might wanna add some derma sustain. If Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - disagrees with u like it does with xrsist try aromasin or clomid.

All told ur good to go.

To the kid:

Get help. I really hope that the damage ur doing to urself wont be as bad as i think it might.

 

[gslben]

Question#1 the answer is yes