First Cycle - Please Review

[BigGuyPHX]

I am planning on taking my first cycle. Please review.

I am planning on taking 500 MG's of Test a week. I can get testosterone enanthate, Sus, or testosterone cypionate. Sus was suggested but I read otherwise on this board. Why would I choose testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate over Sus? I thought the only difference was the esters/halflife since test is test?

Cycle:

Weeks 1-8: 500mg Test/week
Week 10-15: 20mg Novladex a day.

I wasn't planning on taking HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - should I? I have read contradicting things on HCG.

I plan on eating 4500 calories a day - beef, chicken, ww pasta, brown rice, weight gainer, protein powder, milk, etc.

I am 26, 5' 10", 185lbs, at about 12% BF.

Thoughts? I am really curious about my PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . Do I require HCG and if so why?

I will take any feedback, I have done a lot of research but I am by no means an expert which is why I am asking you to look it over

Half the TEST IMO and do some more homework on your PCT. Stick around and READ your ass off. ASK as many questions as you can. I can say its nice to see your not taken the ROCKSTAR path with a huge stack, good for you bro!

Good luck.

Oh yea look at age, stats, post numbers, on the people you take advice from.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

lool ur dosages are fine, im running trenbolone enanthate for 6 weeks at 200mg and testosterone enanthate for 500mg for 10 weeks and im only 17, trust you will make some nice gains on that cycle. u got ur diet sorted and PCT - post cycle therapy - you should be fine

Ok my friend I want to talk to you not at you so please listen...
What you are doing is dangerous to your health and could have some serious LONG TERM effects that you dont want.
I have a close friend in Detroit that did the same thing his senior year and into University. One day his dick STOPPED working, the end , no more, zip, done, etc etc etc. Now on the other hand he looks like a GQ model and has a 10 TEN for a girlfrind BUT he needs to go into the bathroom and stick a needle in the side of his LIMP DICK to inject a drug to produce a erection.(Talk about a mood killer) PLUS his body is so messed up he will be on HRT the rest of his life.(That$ a nice bill to pay every month FOREVER.)

The other bros may sound like they are picking on you and some are BUT for the most part we are trying to SAVE you from hurting yourself.

Some bros would love to see you whacked from this forum but I want you to stay around and LEARN so when the day comes for you to gear up you will be cutting edge smart and know from A to Z what to do and NOT to do.

Take care and good luck my friend.

 

[TimeToGrow]

Half the TEST IMO and do some more homework on your PCT - post cycle therapy - . Stick around and READ your ass off. ASK as many questions as you can. I can say its nice to see your not taken the ROCKSTAR path with a huge stack, good for you bro!

Good luck.

Oh yea look at age, stats, post numbers, on the people you take advice from.

Thanks. I will run 250MGs/week.

As far as PCT goes I have doen so much research and it seems every site has a different take on it and they all are so confident. Some say HCG during a cycle only, some say after, some say both, some say none. Most seem to say Novla is better then clomid and both are not neccesary. Then there are the "others" such armidex and what not. I love the thought of taking 20 mgs of nolva for a few weeks as it doesn't get much easier then that but at hte end of the day ill do whatever takes in terms of $$$ and inconvience to maintain my gains and minimize health related side effects...

 

[TM248]

here..i did 250mg/week for my first cycle TEST E for 10 weeks...grew like crazy i went from 175 to 200... i ate properly and trained properly... if you can do that you'll be fine... PCT i used clomid 50mg and nolv 20mg/day...i had no sides.

good luck!!

 

[rambleon]

First of all to everyone who addressed my question - thank you very much!

Question 1
So 250 MGs is a good first cycle? I have read a lot about taking 500? I don't want to go on another cycle for some time so I thought i'd take 500 but if you suggest 250 - i'll trust the experts.

I have clomid and novla on hand (just gotta get my test). So I'll plan on taking the Novla PCT - post cycle therapy - and if it disagrees then i'll use the clomid.

As far as HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - goes - everything I hear has to do with shrunken nuts. I am single and not likely to b e with many girls over the 8-10 weeks I am on gear as I will be concentrating on three things

Eating/Sleeping/Training

Question 2
So can i just live with the shrunken nuts?


Thanks again for all the help. I've looked around and this by far the best site!!!

Q1: Yes. 250 mg ew is perfect for a first run.
q2: No. If they shrink i really think u should start hcg at once. I'm not an expert on this but as a man is this something u want to fuck around with? Thought not.

Good luck man. Get growin'

 

[6FULLMETALTRUCKIE9]

To The 17 Yr Ole Juicer! You Really Need To Kick The Habit If You Noticed Everyone On This Thread Is Saying The Same Thing About You , Your To Young Your Killing Yourself Etc Etc. And They Are Right You Are. The James Dean "live Fast Die And Leave A Good Looking Corpus " Was Just A Line In A Movie. Don't You Want To Have Kids With Out Birth Defects Or Even Once You Hook Up With A Smoking Hot Babe Don't You Want To Please Her No Get Laughed At For Having "limp Dick And Raisins For Nads?" Let Me Tell You It's Not All Gravy And Your Not Indestructible Because You Think So. Just Like The Rest Of The Bro's Here Aas Is A Choice We All Make And Understand The Fall Out That Comes With It, But You At Your Age Need To Eat Clean And Pay Your Dues In The Gym In Reps And Sweat.and It Will Pay Off For You Being So Young Stop Taking The Easy Way Out Cause Once You Get To College The Ncaa Does Piss Test And If U Piss Dirty There Goes Your Playtime And If You Get A Free Ride To College Kiss It Good Bye Cause You'll Never Be Able To Compete With The Kids That Earned There Way On That Team.good Luck And Get A Grip Life's To Short To Be So Stupid So Young....................................fmt

 

[evilb]

bruv number 1 i dont live in america i come from london, number 2 i know for a fact my body stopped growing coz im 6,5 and i been that heilght for 2 years now and im gonna be 18 in 2 months, the stuff with girls and not getting erections i dont give a shit loool ill choose bigger muscles over a dick anyday, and the thing with hrt starting at 25 is bulllssshhiiitittt, arnold started at 13 and hes fine, my mates have started when they were 15, one of thems twenty and perfectly fine and muscles big as hell, come on u know that 17-18-19 is one of the best ages to start gear as your body will grow like helll so dont give me bullshit that i will need hrt, im not a moron i study chemistry and i know well around cycles and pcts so there you go eough of this bullshit that im too young to juice, u lot are having a laugh

 

[2raptors]

I have to say, as a 45 year old (new to gear, NOT to lifting) this attitude from these young juicers concerns me....they are just KIDS and think they know it all from reading a book.

I want the next 25 years of MY life to be the absolute best they can be...I want to die looking like god..... I came to this forum for expert advise on this new adventure I am, theoretically, embarking upon....and these guys really DO know what they are talking about. Sure, I've been reading for YEARS on it... and have stayed natty, up until now, and I for one, plan on listening to these guys and doing it RIGHT.

You are the kind of kids (or people) that someone can spot a mile away...ass-holes looking for an excuse to be "bigger" ass-holes... and from what I've read...you've succeeded. This is not meant to be a flame...but reading crap like this really scares me. And I pity you fools for not taking the side of reason (in the form of your experts and moderators) who've been down the road....

So thanks for clarifying that I, personally, am doing the right thing by actually utilizing the excellent information this group provides. And for reminding me to keep the hell away from idiots like you....

 

[methan_00]

Too young to start with steroids, why not try something easier like making sure your workout and diet are in check. At 17/18 years old, everyone thinks they are an expert at everything. So, you've read some posts and are now ready to go to the darkside. Start with steroids at such an early age would be stupid.Educate before you medicate. I'm not trying to flame you or be harsh, I'm just giving you a dose of reality.

Most member would kill to have the test levels that you have right now. And you have them naturally.

Peace

 

[solidspine]

You only get one first cycle,

I would recommend you increase the test e to 1 gram per week.