First cycle...bulking then cutting

[bonannon]

OK guys....critique my cycle. I'm looking to pack on 15-20 pounds of mass in the first 8 weeks, then transition right into a cutting cycle to get down to 7-8% BF.
This is what I have:
1250mg sust (Ttokkyo)
2500mg ara-test
3000mg deca
1000 mg prop (T50 Brovel)
1250mg winny
lots of clomid, clen, and cynomel

This is how I want to cycle it:

 

[bonannon]

anyone????

 

[CB38AC]

Using T3 at the end of that cycle is not a god idea, you will be in a catabolic state and burn off way to much hard earned muscle, other than that bump for more advise and looks good

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Cycle looks pretty good. I would start the Clomid 3 days after your last dose of Winny and as stated before use the Cytomel(T3) with gear because in higher doses it can be very catabolic. Good Luck!

M18

 

[2Thick]

I would reduce the Deca to 300mg/week.

Also, the T3 is not a good idea (like CB38AC said).

Otherwise it looks good.

 

[bonannon]

thanks for the replies. I thought it was better to start the clomid a week or so after my last shot of test. If I don't start it until after I'm done with the winny that would make it 4 weeks after my last test injection...is that OK? I may end up cutting out the T3...although I'm taking a rather small amount...its just that I have a bunch of it and i figured i'd give it a try. What if i move the T3 up a couple weeks and take it at the same time as the winny?

 

[DTOX]

I'm sure I'm going to hell for this, but low-dosage T3 isn't catabolic, it's anabolic. It's why some BBs add 5 -12.5 mcg /day to their cycles...

I would guess the best thing is to get your thyroid levels mesured and then see how much extra T3/day (if any) you need in order to bring it up to normal.

I'm sure there are old articles by Michael Mooney or Dan Duchaine or even abstracts on PubMed that can explain this in detail...

 

[Dark Raver]

Hey bonannon, I don't even know where to begin.. Your cycle looks like shit, and you have two of the most shitty roid-brands in it. (YES: TTOKKYO AND BROVEL!)

Anyways.. I've tried to make your cycle a bit less shitty:

Wk---Prop-----------Sust--AraTest-Deca---Winstrol-----Clomid
1-----100 mg eod. 250 mg 250 mg 300 mg----------------------
2-----100 mg eod. 250 mg 250 mg 300 mg----------------------
3-----100 mg eod. 250 mg 250 mg 300 mg----------------------
4----------------- 250 mg 250 mg 300 mg----------------------
5----------------- 250 mg 250 mg 300 mg-----------------------
6------------------------ 250 mg 300 mg-----------------------
7------------------------ 250 mg 300 mg-----------------------
8------------------------ 250 mg 300 mg 100 mg eod. --------
9------------------------ 250 mg 300 mg 100 mg eod. --------
10-----------------------250 mg 300 mg 100 mg eod. --------
11----------------------------------------50 mg eod. --------
12------------------------------------------------------ 100 mg
13------------------------------------------------------ 100 mg
14------------------------------------------------------ 50 mg
15------------------------------------------------------ 50 mg

As for the cytomel and that stuff, I don't know. I've never dieted. I just bulk up, hehe.