Fat Kids....

[dps1822]

Fat Kids....UPDATED WITH PICS

If you have kids, do you watch their weight? I have four and I am anal about their weight. Fat kids get picked on in school and I dont want them to go through that ok fast forward to my sister. She has a daughter who is three days older then my daughter and she is a beast. My daughter dresses cute while my niece looks like a boy because she can't find cute clothes her size. I am like this close to telling my sister to have her kid drop some weight but is that right for the kid to just flat out tell them they are fat. Should i care about psychological effects later in her life I dont want her to become some fat recluse then come kill me because I insulted her when she was little and she has been harboring a grudge.

 

[silverstar1025]

You don't need to tell kids they are fat the parent needs to provide more healthy food in the home. If you stock your home full of crap then how is the kid going to be healthy? I don't go and deprive my kids of all the good kids stuff, but I definitely limit. Instead of cookies and candy I get them yogurt, cheese sticks, crackers,etc. Kids will eat what you give them. They won't starve so if that is all there is in the house then they should change their ways.

 

[vixensghost]

You call your chubby niece a "beast"? Wow, I would think that perhaps you're adding fuel to that fire. Sorry, that is sad.

I have an 11 year old daughter. She's very active in sports. She's also VERY well versed in proper nutrition. I can only give her the tools, she'll have to do the rest on her own when's she older. I'd like to think that a good example and education is the key with children.


Labels and name calling would be MY last approach while trying to help a child!Just my 2 cents....

 

[stosstruppe]

You call your chubby niece a "beast"? Wow, I would think that perhaps you're adding fuel to that fire. Sorry, that is sad.

DPS never stated she called her niece a beast to her face, only as a honest descriptive on EF.

All my parents ever did was ensure there was little to no junk food in the house to snack on ("You can't miss / crave something you've never tried") and supported my sporting endeavours financially, transportation and what not.

 

[chazk]

I would not come out an caller kids fat . I would drop hints next time you are with her say stuff like " oh i dont want my kids to eat that " of " no I do not let my kids have those sweets "

Then let her and her kids see your kids eating good foods such as oranges,grapes, strawberries,blue berries,baby carrots,cherry tomatoes.

If you can introduce healthy foods to her kids by way of your kids , maybe it wil rub off on them

 

[heatherrae]

Some kids go through a "chunky" phase and then outgow it after puberty strikes, too. It's really up to her mom to see that she is eating well and getting enough active play time. Maybe she is just in an awkward phase. Whatever you do, don't tell her that she is fat. Women learn all that crap way too fast anyway. I hate to see thrid grade girls comparing dieting tips.

 

[PFM]

yea i agree. might need to find a more suttle way to go about it. but i do think it should atleast be brought to the parents attention. going throu life and school overweight is one of the worst things that kids have to deal with. I was overweight til my sopf. year in college. I delt with it by hating myself and everyone else, and kicking anyones ass who called me fat. since then I have lost 80lbs, and I feel like Im living another life!

 

[retsiger]

You call your chubby niece a "beast"? Wow, I would think that perhaps you're adding fuel to that fire. Sorry, that is sad.

I have an 11 year old daughter. She's very active in sports. She's also VERY well versed in proper nutrition. I can only give her the tools, she'll have to do the rest on her own when's she older. I'd like to think that a good example and education is the key with children.


Labels and name calling would be MY last approach while trying to help a child!Just my 2 cents....

So true!

 

[vixensghost]

DPS never stated she called her niece a beast to her face, only as a honest descriptive on EF.

All my parents ever did was ensure their was little to no junk food in the house to snack on ("You can't miss / crave something you've never tried") and supported my sporting endeavours financially, transportation and what not.

You know that she does not call her that to her face? She has those thoughts in her heart if it's mentioned! Negative thoughts only provide negative actions...IMO.

Sorry, anyone who calls a child a "beast" has serious problems. It's NOT the poor kids fault that she has NO examples set for proper nutrition. Christ.

 

[chazk]

Sad fact in america is usually 90% of the time fat parents = fat kids.
Fat parents eat crap at home,take kids out and over eat on more junk then come home and sit around snacking on more junk. The kids see it as just a the way life is and follow.

 

[stosstruppe]

You know that she does not call her that to her face? She has those thoughts in her heart if it's mentioned! Negative thoughts only provide negative actions...IMO.

Sorry, anyone who calls a child a "beast" has serious problems. It's NOT the poor kids fault that she has NO examples set for proper nutrition. Christ.

I'll tell you what I do know; Children don't possess magical mind reading skills and DPS didn't call the child a beast to her face. It's clearly stated in black and white in her first post.

As a digression, I had many "negative thoughts" about newcomers to the gym I worked at whom I knew were wasting my time, though every client was always treated as an individual with a fresh slate and every positive effort provided to them despite knowing they'd quit in a week or two's time. It's called professionalism - just like DPS employs tact and keeping her bloody mouth shut (aka common sense not to get involved in a shitstorm) instead of running around calling kids beasts as you're suggesting.

 

[stosstruppe]

Never suggest to anyone how to rear their children - especially a mother - unless they broach the subject / invite you to submit an opinion. Your intentions will always be misconstrued and you'll just generate unnecessary bad feeling.

Just keep your own kids in good order (like you're doing by instilling in them a sense of pride in their appearance / self-esteem / self-respect) and let others - even your blood - worry about their kids.

 

[PFM]

Thats true as hell. Offering that up to the moms will make her think you just told her she was an unfit parent= cat fight. Maybe have your neice hangout with you and your girl more, ask if she would like to go the gym, or join a softball team or something. Anything to get her moving. and that alone, if she enjoys it, will prolly make her want to be more healthy herself.

 

[dps1822]

You know that she does not call her that to her face? She has those thoughts in her heart if it's mentioned! Negative thoughts only provide negative actions...IMO.

Sorry, anyone who calls a child a "beast" has serious problems. It's NOT the poor kids fault that she has NO examples set for proper nutrition. Christ.

ok let me explain.... around here in these parts our lingo is a little different. When we say beast we dont mean grotesque and ugly we mean HUGE. Like if we see someone that is hot were like man Thats Sick. so when i called her a beast I wasn't meaning like she's a freak just really big. Here is a pic of the both of them...mind you they are THREE days apart.

Ok this is my sister with my two nieces...obviously you can tell my sister does not practice good eating habits.

This is my daughter and I

 

[chazk]

ok let me explain.... around here in these parts our lingo is a little different. When we say beast we dont mean grotesque and ugly we mean HUGE. Like if we see someone that is hot were like man Thats Sick. so when i called her a beast I wasn't meaning like she's a freak just really big. Here is a pic of the both of them...mind you they are THREE days apart.

Ok this is my sister with my two nieces...obviously you can tell my sister does not practice good eating habits.

This is my daughter and I

Fuck after seeing that pic of her with her kids , I would call her a beast to.
I mean look at the mom she is huge .All I can do is shake my head thinking of how the kids will turn out. Yes your niece is a beast .
I bet she just feeds them way to much and the same ol crap she eats

 

[stosstruppe]

Can't really judge from one pic -

I know plenty of young and old (including family) Southern Italian pisan (sp.) women with a similar "robust" physique and they are quite healthy and fit (lots of walking up in the hills / mountains). Mediterranean diet (some of the dishes are high calorie in nature), just big portions

 

[bw1]

Fuck after seeing that pic of her with her kids , I would call her a beast to.
I mean look at the mom she is huge .All I can do is shake my head thinking of how the kids will turn out. Yes your niece is a beast .
I bet she just feeds them way to much and the same ol crap she eats

+1

 

[Smurfy]

yea i agree. might need to find a more suttle way to go about it. but i do think it should atleast be brought to the parents attention. going throu life and school overweight is one of the worst things that kids have to deal with. I was overweight til my sopf. year in college. I delt with it by hating myself and everyone else, and kicking anyones ass who called me fat. since then I have lost 80lbs, and I feel like Im living another life!

oh,. so you're projecitng.

free advise: mind your own business.

 

[musclemom]

True Story: My former sister in law was compulsive about her own weight (to the point that she had osteoporosis before age 45 from the constant dieting), and was very vigilant about her daughters weight and what she ate. In my opinion, she nagged the kid and turned food into an issue. Consequently, the kid went on her first diet around age 3. She wasn't fat, just carrying a little baby chub but you couldn't tell her mother that (she would have outgrown it). But her mother was there, always bitching at her about every bite, virtually, that went into her mouth. Consequently the kid started hiding food in her room so mom never saw her eating other than at the meal table. She couldn't wait to move out of the house, and then the weight piled on.

And she was ALWAYS a very athletic girl. She actually held a director position for the local YMCA shortly after graduating high school. It was just that her mother made her crazy about the food thing.

Anyway, when her grandfather passed away she came into a substantial inheritance. The first major purchase she made was gastric bypass, she was less than 24 years old and tipping the scales over 300 (she's a VERY tall young woman, over 6', and very strong and athletic, but was also carrying substantial extra weight because her mother turned food into an issue).

 

[binö]

True Story: My former sister in law was compulsive about her own weight (to the point that she had osteoporosis before age 45 from the constant dieting), and was very vigilant about her daughters weight and what she ate. In my opinion, she nagged the kid and turned food into an issue. Consequently, the kid went on her first diet around age 3. She wasn't fat, just carrying a little baby chub but you couldn't tell her mother that (she would have outgrown it). But her mother was there, always bitching at her about every bite, virtually, that went into her mouth. Consequently the kid started hiding food in her room so mom never saw her eating other than at the meal table. She couldn't wait to move out of the house, and then the weight piled on.

And she was ALWAYS a very athletic girl. She actually held a director position for the local YMCA shortly after graduating high school. It was just that her mother made her crazy about the food thing.

Anyway, when her grandfather passed away she came into a substantial inheritance. The first major purchase she made was gastric bypass, she was less than 24 years old and tipping the scales over 300 (she's a VERY tall young woman, over 6', and very strong and athletic, but was also carrying substantial extra weight because her mother turned food into an issue).

is she pretty hott now?

 

[musclemom]

is she pretty hott now?

Couldn't tell you from personal observation (my husband's family, so I got cut off from contact), but my son told me she looked nice, except for the backs of her arms. So she's go the skin thing going on.

 

[chazk]

True Story: My former sister in law was compulsive about her own weight (to the point that she had osteoporosis before age 45 from the constant dieting), and was very vigilant about her daughters weight and what she ate. In my opinion, she nagged the kid and turned food into an issue. Consequently, the kid went on her first diet around age 3. She wasn't fat, just carrying a little baby chub but you couldn't tell her mother that (she would have outgrown it). But her mother was there, always bitching at her about every bite, virtually, that went into her mouth. Consequently the kid started hiding food in her room so mom never saw her eating other than at the meal table. She couldn't wait to move out of the house, and then the weight piled on.

And she was ALWAYS a very athletic girl. She actually held a director position for the local YMCA shortly after graduating high school. It was just that her mother made her crazy about the food thing.

Anyway, when her grandfather passed away she came into a substantial inheritance. The first major purchase she made was gastric bypass, she was less than 24 years old and tipping the scales over 300 (she's a VERY tall young woman, over 6', and very strong and athletic, but was also carrying substantial extra weight because her mother turned food into an issue).

So you are suggesting the kids be as fat as mom, have a battered youth and then come to relize later they are fat beast then get gastric down the road?

 

[vixensghost]

I'll tell you what I do know; Children don't possess magical mind reading skills and DPS didn't call the child a beast to her face. It's clearly stated in black and white in her first post.

As a digression, I had many "negative thoughts" about newcomers to the gym I worked at whom I knew were wasting my time, though every client was always treated as an individual with a fresh slate and every positive effort provided to them despite knowing they'd quit in a week or two's time. It's called professionalism - just like DPS employs tact and keeping her bloody mouth shut (aka common sense not to get involved in a shitstorm) instead of running around calling kids beasts as you're suggesting.

Been in meetings..Could not respond.

I'd be the first one to offer help to ANYONE who showed some interest in healthy choices in regards to food. IF you can help one person out of 100- IT'S all good. That is called COMPASSION, Stobutterwhatever.

I know one thing, IF my niece were chubby, I'd never refer to her as a beast no matter the lingo. It's sad that the little girl has no one to guide her by the looks and sounds of it.

I'd get involved in a shit storm with my sister if my nieces had a unhealthy future..NO DOUBT.



MM-Horrible story. It's such a tricky balance with kids and food. My hubby works with a man whose daughter(age14) just came back from a rehab center in Minn. beacuse she was starving herself.

 

[chazk]

Been in meetings..Could not respond.

I'd be the first one to offer help to ANYONE who showed some interest in healthy choices in regards to food. IF you can help one person out of 100- IT'S all good. That is called COMPASSION, Stobutterwhatever.

I know one thing, IF my niece were chubby, I'd never refer to her as a beast no matter the lingo. It's sad that the little girl has no one to guide her by the looks and sounds of it.

I'd get involved in a shit storm with my sister if my nieces had a unhealthy future..NO DOUBT.



MM-Horrible story. It's such a tricky balance with kids and food. My hubby works with a man whose daughter(age14) just came back from a rehab center in Minn. beacuse she was starving herself.

I guess you did not look at the pics. The niece is far from chubby . She is on the verge of becomming ( already is )morbidly obese like her mother.

 

[musclemom]

So you are suggesting the kids be as fat as mom, have a battered youth and then come to relize later they are fat beast then get gastric down the road?

My gods did I tell that story THAT badly?

The mother was far from fat, she'd never been overweight a day in her life. She dieted when she didn't need to. She ended up with osteoporosis because she was constantly starving herself, in fact. She was obsessed with the numbers on the scale.

If she hadn't been virtually neurotic about her own weight I think the kid would have grown up with a normal relationship with food. As it was, her mother turned it into an "issue." The mother's obsession with AVOIDING food turned into the daughter's obsession with CONSUMING food.

My personal observation, when you have kids keep the junk (cookies, chips, sugary drinks, soda, cereals) out of the house, period. Have only fresh fruit, good yogurt, easy to nosh veggies, healthy cereals, peanut butter, whole grain breads and crackers, etc. Forces the kid to eat healthy when they get the munchies.

Childhood obesity is on the rise because kids don't get enough exercise but mainly they are malnourished on junk food and they get goofy blood sugar spikes and drops from HFCS and refined sugar. If you keep that shit out of the house, teach your kids healthy eating habits from the time they're little, you won't have fat kids (it's really simple, a little kid growing up eating fruits as snacks will eat the occasional piece of junk, but will PREFER the fruit, seriously, particularly if that's the way their parents eat). But the WORST thing you can do is make eating (or FOOD) an ISSUE!!!

From the time they're very little, children graze naturally. If you provide them with only healthy things to "graze on," they'll grow up with a healthy relationship with food and a normal body weight. Don't have g'damned soda and cookies and transfats around, and they'll never learn to like the stuff.

 

[Longhorn85]

Re: Fat Kids....UPDATED WITH PICS

I am like this close to telling my sister to have her kid drop some weight

Do you and your sister live in the same town? If not, invite your niece to come and live with you for a few weeks or maybe longer in the summer while your sis takes a vacation.

Keep her on a good diet with lots of exercise and when your sister picks her up she'll notice a difference and ask what happened.

 

[chazk]

My gods did I tell that story THAT badly?

The mother was far from fat, she'd never been overweight a day in her life. She dieted when she didn't need to. She ended up with osteoporosis because she was constantly starving herself, in fact. She was obsessed with the numbers on the scale.

If she hadn't been virtually neurotic about her own weight I think the kid would have grown up with a normal relationship with food. As it was, her mother turned it into an "issue." The mother's obsession with AVOIDING food turned into the daughter's obsession with CONSUMING food.

My personal observation, when you have kids keep the junk (cookies, chips, sugary drinks, soda, cereals) out of the house, period. Have only fresh fruit, good yogurt, easy to nosh veggies, healthy cereals, peanut butter, whole grain breads and crackers, etc. Forces the kid to eat healthy when they get the munchies.

Kids overeat because they don't get enough exercise but mainly they are malnourished on junk food and they get goofy blood sugar spikes and drops from HFCS and refined sugar. If you keep that shit out of the house, teach your kids healthy eating habits from the time they're little, you won't have fat kids (it's really simple, a little kid growing up eating fruits as snacks will eat the occasional piece of junk, but will PREFER the fruit, seriously, particularly if that's the way their parents eat). But the WORST thing you can do is make eating (or FOOD) an ISSUE!!!

From the time they're very little, children graze naturally. If you provide them with only healthy things to "graze on," they'll grow up with a healthy relationship with food and a normal body weight. Don't have g'damned soda and cookies and transfats around, and they'll never learn to like the stuff.

Well the food is a issue. just becuase the lady you speak of was crazy obsessed about her weight and the kid rebelled and gained weight later.
Don't worry that is not even the issue in the this case.This case the mother is a fat cow and her duaghter is already morbidley obese. dps is asking advice on if she should call the mom out on the carpet about it.she already knows the whole nutrition thing becuase her duaghter is in shape. She is asking how do I go about having my sister tell her kids and make her kids eat healthy when she herself is a beast

 

[musclemom]

So you are suggesting the kids be as fat as mom, have a battered youth and then come to relize later they are fat beast then get gastric down the road?

Okay, rereading this thread, I never saw the pics of the sis and kids. I'll bet dad is fat, too.

How is a child supposed to know how to eat and exercise if the parent, who is setting examples and providing the food, doesn't know what's right? If mom wanted to change her lifestyle, she's impact the entire household.

 

[chazk]

Okay, rereading this thread, I never saw the pics of the sis and kids. I'll bet dad is fat, too.

How is a child supposed to know how to eat and exercise if the parent, who is setting examples and providing the food, doesn't know what's right? If mom wanted to change her lifestyle, she's impact the entire household.

exactly

 

[vixensghost]

I guess you did not look at the pics. The niece is far from chubby . She is on the verge of becomming ( already is )morbidly obese like her mother.

I saw the child. It broke my heart too. She's a beautiful little girl with diease in her future unless she gets some help from someone NOW.

MM- I understood you. I agree 100% on the food choice in a home too.

Bri will select raw almonds ETC. over junk food ANY ole day of the week when given the choice.

 

[musclemom]

Well the food is a issue. just becuase the lady you speak of was crazy obsessed about her weight and the kid rebelled and gained weight later.
Don't worry that is not even the issue in the this case.This case the mother is a fat cow and her duaghter is already morbidley obese. dps is asking advice on if she should call the mom out on the carpet about it.she already knows the whole nutrition thing becuase her duaghter is in shape. She is asking how do I go about having my sister tell her kids and make her kids eat healthy when she herself is a beast

I don't remember where I heard this, but it took me a REALLY long time to absolutely get it:

1. Fat people know they're fat.

2. Smokers know that cigarettes kill you.

3. Assholes really don't care they were rude/thoughtless/ignorant/etc.

Said another way: Pointing out the obvious to someone is very much like teaching a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

 

[stosstruppe]

We should get DPS' sister to log on to this thread. I am dying to see the subsequent exchange unfold.

DPS1822, please request your sister to join us on EliteFitness at her nearest convenience

 

[RottenWillow]

Sad fact in america is usually 90% of the time fat parents = fat kids.

I'm sure the tendency is towards fat parents raise fat children, but I don't think the percentage is that high.

These days it seems that a lot of permissive parents, or just ones with poor parenting skills, either allow their gluttoneous kids to eat all they want or use food as a pacifer. The parents themselves may have pretty good eating and/or exercise habits, but the child learns to think of food as security or entertainment, and end up fat by the time they start school.

 

[dps1822]

We should get DPS' sister to log on to this thread. I am dying to see the subsequent exchange unfold.

DPS1822, please request your sister to join us on EliteFitness at her nearest convenience

yeah she doesn't really care about anything that has to do with fitness which is odd because she used to model. YUP believe it or not she was the hot chick in high school. Super skinny, big boobs, long legs. THen she started popping kids out and didn't care much about anything after that. When I work out outside I invite her and I get the usual ughhh no its hot outside.

 

[nimbus]

at my schools the fat mexicans always bullied the pretty ones, so maybe she'll be fine

 

[puddlemonkey]

More pics of mom please.