Fat Guys And Juice

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I'm thinking about doing HGH in hopes that I can lower my BF% by even more. Anyone think it's worth a shot??

 

[bmcadoo44]

Ok - here it is...

I am 26 years old and currently weighing 270lbs at 6ft. My BF% is 15% according to the gym scales. I have been on and off cycles now since I was a sophmore in college where I was playing NCAA DIV !-AA football and weighing 255lbs. While playing, I was like a machine! I felt invincible and I have never been stronger. Then, when my college career was coming to an end, I blew up my shoulder completely destroying my rotator cuff.

As most of you probably now assume, I blew up. I couldnt lift anything and when I did recover from all the treatments, etc..., being in the gym was extremely frustrating, so I gave up. I blew up to around 335lbs. Then I finally reached a point after seeing a picture that was taken of me on the beach and desided to do something. In July of 2006, I designed a diet/lifting/cardio plan that I did full force for about 2 months. Obviously, I had a great deal of weight to lose so I quickly began to shed the weight, most of which being water. Finally, I got down to around 300lbs (35lb loss from the start) and having juiced in the past, I decided to jump on a test testosterone propionate / Winstrol - stanozolol cycle. I ran the cycle for 16 weeks and then came off with clomid and HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . When my cycle was complete, I dropped down to 252lbs.

So after all my rambling, my question is, why are people against fat people taking steriods. I truly feel that they had a major contribution to my weight loss.

I am sure people will be bashing me for jumping on a cycle at such a high weight with such a high BF% but hey, look at the results...

fat guys taking juice only makes them fatter. The muscle gained is nasty and their bf increases with weight. Mostly water weight is gained, thats why being a low bf before taking steroids is very beneficial to the bodys physique.

I am trying to get down to 6% then hit up a bulker im 9-10% right now and well on my way.

 

[Dr. K]

.... A few people kept telling me I shouldn't have been on at all until i get down to 15%, but I haven't ever been 15%.

I really wish i knew where this magic 15% number came from....quite frankly i think there are some people who can't get under 15% withouth AAS cause they can't build the LBM...

There are others who are "lucky" and never go over 15%...


WIth that said i don't think this number applies to everyone and its all on a case by case basis

 

[rg78]

I really wish i knew where this magic 15% number came from....quite frankly i think there are some people who can't get under 15% withouth anabolic androgenic steroids cause they can't build the LBM...

There are others who are "lucky" and never go over 15%...


WIth that said i don't think this number applies to everyone and its all on a case by case basis

I think the 15% was plucked from cyberspace and repeated by online message board parrots

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

I'll link/bump the thread here in a second, but there was a thread where me, Chefwide and Mr. X got into it big time over this exact same subject. The positive effects AAS have on your metabolism as well as ability to diet like crazy with minimal lean mass loss seems favorable for a body composition change. At the same time, looking for that magic bullet seems to be what some people are doing. If you can separate the two desires, I like the idea of using AAS as a part of a body composition change ''cycle''

 

[perp69]

I hope I am not hi-jacking in asking questions on this subject but what would be a good dose? Are we talking strictly test or something more mild like Primobolan - methenolone - ?

I am talking low something you could run for a bit without much worry. Around 200-250mg. It will shut down your natty test so you got to think about if you do. I guess you could use about whatever you wanted as long as it is injectable.

Perp

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/overweight-newbs-read-442122.html

Here's the thread I was referencing, although it looks like the original poster edited his post to fellate the AF store.

 

[perp69]

fat guys taking juice only makes them fatter. The muscle gained is nasty and their bf increases with weight. Mostly water weight is gained, thats why being a low bf before taking steroids is very beneficial to the bodys physique.

I am trying to get down to 6% then hit up a bulker im 9-10% right now and well on my way.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. Diet and cardio is a much bigger factor in whether or not you gain or loose weight not so much AAS. In addition I am talking low dose not running typical cycle. What is nasty muscle? Muscle is muscle. If you are dieting I would not expect much gain as far as muscle goes. If it happens then great. That is just icing on the cake. I diet to loose body fat and to retain as much muscle as possible. Low dose AAS can help with that no matter how fat you are.

Perp

 

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I was on 300/wk test cyp and 400/wk EQ, and started off fat, no one can tell me that fat guys shouldnt use at all under any circumstances. I've had a lot of compliments from everyone. I'm just built natrually thick though.

 

[Thyck]

I'll have to agree with several people, forget being fat..if you are willing to change your diet to be on point and workout hard as shit...it doesnt matter, the AAS will help. Way to many positives to not take it.

The key here is not still being a lazy fat ass eating donuts....you have to be willing to sacrifce the food and take the pain out on your body.