overweight newbs. read this.

[bigtravis]

if you are over 15% bf. and have never used AAS. but are interested in doing so, please check out the AF-store first. then while you are in the process of loosing the extra pounds through cardio and proper diet, be doing some research on AAS. T

 

[hammercurls]

good info

 

[Throw2Far]

I agree, you will not be happy with your cycle if you are above 15%.

I recommend T-Rex and YES with R-ALA if you have the flow... 6 weeks of those along with research of AAS will be well worth the wait...

 

[Mr.X]

They don't need supplements, drugs, or books.

What they need is the search button, diet, diet, diet, cardio, cardio and more cardio.

Most people should NOT even consider steroids until they are 10% bodyfat, over 26years old and have at least 10 years of training.

 

[Agent Dana Scully]

Ok, im 15, 50% fat, had cancer of the thyroid, and i have ADHD, where do i start?

 

[Mr.X]

Ok, im 15, 50% fat, had cancer of the thyroid, and i have ADHD, where do i start?

you can start by stopping the posting of BS in a serious thread, unless you're looking for a bombing

 

[ap282]

Most people should NOT even consider steroids until they are 10% bodyfat, over 26years old and have at least 10 years of training.[/QUOTE]

Oh cool in that case no one would ever do steroids (not a good quote).

 

[hankes64]

I agree that newbs shouldnt use AAS until they met all the quals such as max potential, had their diet down to a science, over 22 years old, and researched for atleast 2 years. But I do not agree with the bodyfat. Some people choose to powerlift. As we all know powerlifters aren't known for being exactly cut. Matter of fact most of them exceed 20% (exception for pudianoski (sp)). I think it is perfectly fine with their bodyfat, just need a longer needle to hit the muscle. If being under 15% BF was a rule that everyone obeyed then we would have some weak powerlifters.

 

[djsf]

This thread makes a good point. In recent weeks there have been dozens of newbie posts asking how (or proposing wierd aas cycles) for purposes of burning fat. In almost all instances the answers have been the same. Maybe the answer to that oh-so-common question should be posted in one of the stickys.

Hey, how about a sticky cleanup? Right now there are a lot of stickys, too many maybe. One sticky should summarily lay out and explain all the rules board rules (right now a couple stickys together do that) and another sticky could be created as a running FAQ to answer all the most frequently asked newbie questions.

 

[hammercurls]

you can start at any body fat if you have some knowledge under your belt imo. a low dose of var would do wonder's for the casual dieter