Fat Guys And Juice

[eando]

Ok - here it is...

I am 26 years old and currently weighing 270lbs at 6ft. My BF% is 15% according to the gym scales. I have been on and off cycles now since I was a sophmore in college where I was playing NCAA DIV !-AA football and weighing 255lbs. While playing, I was like a machine! I felt invincible and I have never been stronger. Then, when my college career was coming to an end, I blew up my shoulder completely destroying my rotator cuff.

As most of you probably now assume, I blew up. I couldnt lift anything and when I did recover from all the treatments, etc..., being in the gym was extremely frustrating, so I gave up. I blew up to around 335lbs. Then I finally reached a point after seeing a picture that was taken of me on the beach and desided to do something. In July of 2006, I designed a diet/lifting/cardio plan that I did full force for about 2 months. Obviously, I had a great deal of weight to lose so I quickly began to shed the weight, most of which being water. Finally, I got down to around 300lbs (35lb loss from the start) and having juiced in the past, I decided to jump on a test prop / winny cycle. I ran the cycle for 16 weeks and then came off with clomid and hcg. When my cycle was complete, I dropped down to 252lbs.

So after all my rambling, my question is, why are people against fat people taking steriods. I truly feel that they had a major contribution to my weight loss.

I am sure people will be bashing me for jumping on a cycle at such a high weight with such a high BF% but hey, look at the results...

 

[krbn08]

What college did you play for?

 

[Faizakafez]

well first off all steriods dont atribute to fat loos in the first place secondly crap i godda find the reasonin but at higher bf your have higher levels (of estro) so using test and steriods you have a lot higher chance of gyno but there is more to it.. i godda find it.

 

[5x10]

the only thing i can think of is the look
they are less pronounced if you are holding fat and most of us bodybuild

im in your boat though, always been an endo
my first cycle, i trimmed up and got bigger

its funny that people try to catagorize the people that "should" use hormones when in reality, nobody really needs them

 

[eando]

I played for Iona College in NY.

I know that steriods to dont "burn fat" but for me, the lbs just melted off and I became extremely hard and strong... Everyones body reacts differently.

 

[omega529]

well first off all steriods dont atribute to fat loos in the first place secondly crap i godda find the reasonin but at higher bf your have higher levels (of estro) so using test and steriods you have a lot higher chance of gynecomastia but there is more to it.. i godda find it.

Muscle attributes to fat loss though, and steroids build muscle, so i guess they dont directly have a big impact...

I started steroids at 15@ BF, and am down to about 9% now.....I did find i had a bit more estrogen back then....I had to be on arimidex@ at least 1mg per day......for a couple days i got to 2mg/day......i probably should have been on aromasin or letro though....anyhow, i think 15% is what you should at least be at before starting again.

Offcoarse do more research all the time too.

 

[eando]

I was thinking of taking Letro before starting my next cycle - but throughout all my research, I have not seen anything or ever heard anything on taking it by itself...

Thoughts...

 

[littleb]

well first off all steriods dont atribute to fat loos in the first place secondly crap i godda find the reasonin but at higher bf your have higher levels (of estro) so using test and steriods you have a lot higher chance of gynecomastia but there is more to it.. i godda find it.

I know what you are trying to say, and i agree to a point.... Yes more prone to est. sides, but with a good AI that can be controlled...
I do not like to see anyone turn to steroids for weight loss because 99% of the time its thier diet / training that is the problem...

But here is where i gotta disagree, they will help with fat loss.. Say test. as an example,, give me 2 guys same diet same training same body stats--- have 1 on 350mg a week say of test e-----the other natty

The one on test. in same circumstances is gonna lose more b/f then the natty bro...

Real world though I agree too many bros are overweight and want a majic bullet to lose all the fat fast,, and not willing to put in the effort/will power..

not saying thats your case to original poster, but thats what happens 9 out of 10 times...

 

[krbn08]

I played for Iona College in NY.

WEAK . . lol j/k

 

[b_light]

why do people always say "i blew out my shoulder" or "i blew out my knee" you don't blow it out you fuck it up. you cant "blow out" a bodypart unless you get hit with a fucking land mine.