Everybody Here SUCKS!

[KnockedOutFAST]

To gain 25 lbs of muscle after you have reached natty limits would be IMPOSSIBLE. To lose some fat however can be done anytime. Oh and "holy shit 1 POUND" of muscle compared to the 10-15 POUNDS of fat you lose if you have your diet/training in order, lets get realistic. You DONT need steroids while cutting, just a good diet, and i mean SPOT ON, and a good training routine, however if you are already cut and want to get to 6% BF then yea steroids seem reasonable. But if you are trying to be 6% you should already have the mass, and it wont look good (if you are on here then you wont look good - this is a steroids forum!) unless you are pretty big. Why would you want to preserve muscle mass? Steroids make muscle grow! Use that to your advantage!

 

[*The_West*]

^what on earth are you on about?^

 

[KnockedOutFAST]

^Bro, i made it in 30 seconds. My point is that steroids make muscle GROW, not PRESERVE muscle.

 

[Tatyana]

HRT? Last time I checked(5 months ago) my T level was 850 after several years of cycling. I have NEVER used Deca, Tren, or DROL. I am GIFTED and have a very strong HPTA as well.

I trained from age 14-21 ALL NATURAL, peaking out at around 185lbs,5% BF, 5''10. Basic Frank Zane stats.

I assert that people really don't sort out diet AND training that young, unless they have BBing champion parents or a mentor who is supporting them.

I bet you had more natural growth in you.

 

[1999TL]

I assert that people really don't sort out diet AND training that young, unless they have BBing champion parents or a mentor who is supporting them.

I bet you had more natural growth in you.

I'm sure he did, but he wouldn't have progressed at the rate he wanted.

 

[Ralph_Wiggum]

HRT? Last time I checked(5 months ago) my T level was 850 after several years of cycling. I have NEVER used Deca, Tren, or DROL. I am GIFTED and have a very strong HPTA as well.

I trained from age 14-21 ALL NATURAL, peaking out at around 185lbs,5% BF, 5''10. Basic Frank Zane stats.

With all due respect, I have to call BS on the "Frank Zane stats" part, at least with regards to looks. Frank Zane looked better than the pics I've seen of you juiced. You definitely have a lot of mass and definition, but, to say that you were in Mr. Olympia condition @ 21 years of age all natural is a tad crazy. We'd be seeing you on the Olympia stage right now competing with Cutler if that statement were remotely true.

^^no 21 year old who isn't a known pro-bodybuilder freak of nature looks like that.

 

[Nelson Montana]

With all due respect, I have to call BS on the "Frank Zane stats" part, at least with regards to looks. Frank Zane looked better than the pics I've seen of you juiced. You definitely have a lot of mass and definition, but, to say that you were in Mr. Olympia condition @ 21 years of age all natural is a tad crazy. We'd be seeing you on the Olympia stage right now competing with Cutler if that statement were remotely true.

^^no 21 year old who isn't a known pro-bodybuilder freak of nature looks like that.

Goddamn was Zane awesome or what? It's hilarious that Ross would compare himself to that. Why? Because he's the same height and weight?! LOL!

Yeah, and I'm also calling BS on the 850 T level while off of everything. A couple of posts ago Ross said he was on pretty much all the time, so which is it?

 

[halfcenturian]

Goddamn was Zane awesome or what? It's hilarious that Ross would compare himself to that. Why? Because he's the same height and weight?! LOL!

Yeah, and I'm also calling BS on the 850 T level while off of everything. A couple of posts ago Ross said he was on pretty much all the time, so which is it?

Isn't it a SHAME that youth is wasted on the young, Nelson???

It's hard to remain neutral with this Ross thing. This guy has one of the biggest ego's/ inferiority complex's, I've ever seen! He's 26 years old !

Why does he continue to flatter himself? Who does he think he is? Who cares?

MOST IMPORTANTLY... WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO LET HIM ???

BAN HIS ASS ONCE AND FOR ALL. JESUS CHRIST-- ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Isn't it a SHAME that youth is wasted on the young, Nelson???

It's hard to remain neutral with this Ross thing. This guy has one of the biggest ego's/ inferiority complex's, I've ever seen! He's 26 years old !

Why does he continue to flatter himself? Who does he think he is? Who cares?

MOST IMPORTANTLY... WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO LET HIM ???

BAN HIS ASS ONCE AND FOR ALL. JESUS CHRIST-- ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

Well, it's not up to me to ban anybody, but I know what you mean.

Ross doesn't get to me but there are hundreds of people who show up here on EF who don't know the difference. They see that Ross is jacked and assume he might know his shit. They ask him questions and thank him for the advice. So chiming in just to say, "Hold on! That's wrong"...it's just conversation.

And people who blow their own horn sometimes get attention. As a senior (ulp) member I think it's worth addressing and showing where the thinking is off base.

 

[Ross]

LoL

Post some pics old guys

You don't look like I do without MASTERING DIET AND TRAINING.