Everybody Here SUCKS!

[BigGuyPHX]

You forgot Lasix... Tell it like it is, brotha! Good to see ya!

Yo halfcenturian wazsup bro... it looks like I got a lot of work to do around here!!! Geez you would think Needto would have mailed me a presonal invite to the TX bash but Nooooooooo he forgot that kick ass weekend party I tried to throw him at the White House last year! (hahaha I think that thread got a few peeps ejected from EF!) RIP Holy Ghost!!!

BigGuy

Squat to ya teabag the floor and shit in the showers!!!

 

[halfcenturian]

Yo halfcenturian wazsup bro... it looks like I got a lot of work to do around here!!! Geez you would think Needto would have mailed me a presonal invite to the TX bash but Nooooooooo he forgot that kick ass weekend party I tried to throw him at the White House last year! (hahaha I think that thread got a few peeps ejected from EF!) RIP Holy Ghost!!!

BigGuy

Squat to ya teabag the floor and shit in the showers!!!

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You're gonna have to straighten some noobs out...

Buncha cheese dick, whiney punk ass, pole smokin' twinks!

Watch your back, Big Guy. A dozen or more of these guy are cops.

Pretty sure there are one or two Feds on board too. I'm talking fucking FBI, bro.

I got a Bro at ATF who... "looked into it for me." Later!

 

[needtogetaas]

Yo halfcenturian wazsup bro... it looks like I got a lot of work to do around here!!! Geez you would think Needto would have mailed me a presonal invite to the TX bash but Nooooooooo he forgot that kick ass weekend party I tried to throw him at the White House last year! (hahaha I think that thread got a few peeps ejected from EF!) RIP Holy Ghost!!!

BigGuy

Squat to ya teabag the floor and shit in the showers!!!

Bro pm me your invited for sure.

 

[militantunionman]

GO HEAVY OR GO HOME!
I see this post and think you are reading my mind!
When you walk in the gym shut your mouth, pick up some heavy weight and get big!!!
BULKY IS BEAUTIFUL!

 

[Nelson Montana]

i never said lose weight??? when i hear "cutting cycle" i think someone wants to get shredded. can you not get shredded from growing muscle BUT not gaining fat/water retention from a cycle?

What you're describing is what a normal cycle should be. But the drugs don't get you shredded. Diet and exercise does. Come on, how many times have you seen people say they're 16% bf and want to do a "cutter." That means they need to be in a calorie deficit, and in that case, using gear is pretty much a waste other than vanity purposes. Those are the guys who usually look like shit unless they're on something. I've seen it far too many times. But once again, people can do whatever they want.

Here's a strange analogy. Training naturally is like studying but not going to college. You'll still get smarter, but it'll be limited.

Using gear without training and eating correctly is like going to college without studying. You'll maybe get a little smarter but not as much as the former example. It's even more limiting.

But if you both, each compliment the other and you'll be as smart as possible.

Make sense?

 

[Ross]

What you're describing is what a normal cycle should be. But the drugs don't get you shredded. Diet and exercise does. Come on, how many times have you seen people say they're 16% bf and want to do a "cutter." That means they need to be in a calorie deficit, and in that case, using gear is pretty much a waste other than vanity purposes. Those are the guys who usually look like shit unless they're on something. I've seen it far too many times. But once again, people can do whatever they want.

Here's a strange analogy. Training naturally is like studying but not going to college. You'll still get smarter, but it'll be limited.

Using gear without training and eating correctly is like going to college without studying. You'll maybe get a little smarter but not as much as the former example. It's even more limiting.

But if you both, each compliment the other and you'll be as smart as possible.

Make sense?

Failure to maintain any anabolic/androgenic support while cutting will inevitably result in muscle loss, which you admit, is unacceptable.

My friend who has been training for 10 years and has about 5 cycles under his belt, approached me the other day and asked me what type of cycle he should run when DIETING...

I told him:

"At your size, you'll definitely need a low dosage of Testosterone in order to preserve all of that muscle mass and strength in a calorie defecit. To further ensure minimal muscle loss and possible muscle GAIN while in a calorie defecit, include a low dosage of Primobolan throughout the cycle."

Plain and simple. "Cutting" without steroids is like "Bulking" with JUNK FOOD; When BULKING on junkfood, you'll gain muscle, but also ALOT OF FAT! When CUTTING without steroids, you'll lose fat, but also ALOT OF MUSCLE!

For an advanced trainer like myself, I need anabolic support even when eating MAINTENANCE calories, because I am so far past my natural limit. Basically, I have to stay on pretty much year-round to maintain this amount of muscle mass.

 

[nzrodney]

What Ross is saying is you use gear like anavar, clen, winny, masteron TO PRESERVE MUSCLE MASS in a calorie deficient diet. Its not about using steriods to "Cut".

 

[gjohnson5]

What Ross is saying is you use gear like anavar, clen, winny, masteron TO PRESERVE MUSCLE MASS in a calorie deficient diet. Its not about using steriods to "Cut".

Ross needs to learn how to preserve muscle mass with diet...
He makes a caloric deficit sounds like a death sentence...

 

[nzrodney]

Ross needs to learn how to preserve muscle mass with diet...
He makes a caloric deficit sounds like a death sentence...

Yes Bro you are still not going anywhere unless you have your diet & cardio dialed in. Also, I believe that its not so much about jumping on the crosstrainer or stepper for an hour or two, but just increasing the intensity of your resistance work. Too much cardio will eventually eat into your muscle mass so I prefer more intense relatively heavy workouts with 30secs to 1 min rest between sets.

 

[mwm5]

Make sense?

i get what both sides of the arguement are saying .

i think word choice in this debate is the key issue.