Everybody Here SUCKS!

[Ross]

Bro....you're telling people that theres no physical way to maintain any kind of muscle, while trying to lean out, without steroids.

Thats is bad advice!! Just because you seem dependant on steroids to accomplish your fitness goals doesn't mean thats the advice you give to everyone else!

You need to be directing people to the Diet & Nutrition board for this shit man. You're exactly part of whats wrong with the world today. The only way you feel like you can do it...is the easy, steroid way. I'm sorry.

Chris

What are your stats and how many cycles have you ran?

Maybe I am overestimating the level of development on this forum, Elite Fitness used to have some bad ass bro's, are you saying everyone here is a complete NEWBIE???

 

[Big_BK]

You do remember Arnold said: "I only use Anabolic Steroids when dieting in preperation for a contest, so that I don't lose my muscle".

Arnold also said real men drink only beer. Let's not base things off what pro's have said. Now before this goes any further I'd like to see some studies thrown up by all the mudslingers in here. This he says she says bullshit is not cutting it, lets see some facts not "what i say is right and you are wrong"

 

[Big_BK]

What are your stats and how many cycles have you ran?

Maybe I am overesitmating the level of devlopment on this forum, Elite Fitness used to have some bad ass bro's, are you saying everyone here is a complete NEWBIE???

Why does his personal experience reflect his knowledge of bodybuilding. If you lined up 50 trainers from all of the highest paid athletes would you say this about them just because they coach others then try and do things them self?

 

[khemix]

What are your stats and how many cycles have you ran?

Maybe I am overesitmating the level of devlopment on this forum, Elite Fitness used to have some bad ass bro's, are you saying everyone here is a complete NEWBIE???

Stats:
6'2
195lbs
<7%bf

I've been a hardcore ecto all my life and if I dip much below 4000cals I start to lose weight.

I've ran 5 cycles. Ive been through 2 major injuries (detached tendons and slipped disks). I slipped 2 disks in my spine aprx 14 months ago. Thats the ONLY reason I'm not heavier.

You dont understand how Elite is NOW. You're talking about how it USE to be. There are A LOT more noobs here than there are anything else, and those are the guys im looking out for. You are in a position that has great influence upon people, especially the new guys. And I know if I were a new guy and didn't know anything, and just went by your pics, I'd definantly listen to you.

And thats what worries me. A man that tells people that they CANNOT maintain any kind of muscle while leaning out is not looking out for the new guys. That is NOT good advice. That is NOT what we need here at Elite.

Oh and so you know, now'a'days on elite, we try to advize very very moderate steroid use. Back when you use to be here steroid abuse was much, much more rampant. Not to mention much more accepted.

 

[Ross]

Why does his personal experience reflect his knowledge of bodybuilding. If you lined up 50 trainers from all of the highest paid athletes would you say this about them just because they coach others then try and do things them self?

Because if he has only run 1 cycle and weighs under 180lbs, then NO, he does not need AAS to CUT, because he is not a STEROID USER.

A STEROID USER is someone who has ran MULTIPLE cycles and has reached a superior level of physical development, typically weighing over 200lbs at 10% bodyfat, and being able to Bench Press at least 275-315lbs 6-8 times.

So, if you are NOT over 200lbs at 10%BF and you can NOT Bench Press at least 275lbs, then you do NOT NEED AAS to CUT.

 

[Big_BK]

Because if he has only run 1 cycle and weighs under 180lbs, then NO, he does not need AAS to CUT, because he is not a STEROID USER.

A STEROID USER is someone who has ran MULTIPLE cycles and has reached a superior level of physical development, typically weighing over 200lbs at 10% bodyfat, and being able to Bench Press at least 275-315lbs 6-8 times.

So, if you are NOT over 200lbs at 10%BF and you can NOT Bench Press at least 275lbs, then you do NOT NEED AAS to CUT.

See, this right here further proves my point. What the fuck kind of logic is this? You said earlier that you did a cut without aas and lost way to much mass right? What was your pre and post cut weight and your diet? I'm assuming everything was spot on if you are such an advance bodybuilder and know much more then us.

 

[tdidd42]

See, this right here further proves my point. What the fuck kind of logic is this? You said earlier that you did a cut without aas and lost way to much mass right? What was your pre and post cut weight and your diet? I'm assuming everything was spot on if you are such an advance bodybuilder and know much more then us.

douche bag! and i can beat u up

 

[juggy54]

I believe that many guys (rec aas users) take cutter cycles to the extreme.......ive seen crazy amounts of aas...more than i sometimes use when bulking. guys stacking test p/var/mast/win. Hell if your not going to go on stage why all that shit? If i ever run a "cutter cycle" it will a low dose of test. Why? because i dont need the hardening effects, im not worried about water/bloat ect. I am a rec aas user!!

 

[aquatic_glories]

what exactly did you mean in here??? Of course we are gonna have more muscle then when we started. We can train naturally at that time and have more muscle than we started.
Do you mean much more muscle??? Or if you mean otherwise, why should we lose muscle??

thanks

bump for Nelson

 

[chazk]

Because if he has only run 1 cycle and weighs under 180lbs, then NO, he does not need AAS to CUT, because he is not a STEROID USER.

A STEROID USER is someone who has ran MULTIPLE cycles and has reached a superior level of physical development, typically weighing over 200lbs at 10% bodyfat, and being able to Bench Press at least 275-315lbs 6-8 times.

So, if you are NOT over 200lbs at 10%BF and you can NOT Bench Press at least 275lbs, then you do NOT NEED AAS to CUT.

I'll take it you didn't know lee priest competes under 200lbs . and he is a freak

Franco columbu was not over 200lbs nor was zane and dickerson
all three of them held mr olyimpia titles
lee labrada came in a close second at 190lbs