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Ever noticed that Women

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for a split second enjoy getting splashed/ hosed in the face for like a split sec.

Every time on TV, or irl, or wherever women get splashed on ,
I noticed they kinda like it ,and / or blush

I think there me be something primordial associated with this reaction.......being serious here
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My husband has pointed out to me that I don't just blush when embarassed, but also when I'm infuriated.

Y'know, come to think of it I can recall having taken at least three separate people down because they threw liquid on/at me.
 
My husband has pointed out to me that I don't just blush when embarassed, but also when I'm infuriated.

Y'know, come to think of it I can recall having taken at least three separate people down because they threw liquid on/at me.

yeah I could see you brewing up a culdrin or something:jenscat:heart:

after someone tried to do that to you
 
yeah I could see you brewing up a culdrin or something:jenscat:heart:

after someone tried to do that to you
Using magic in retaliation to personal slights is a bit like deciding to deal with an ant problem by electing to burn down the house instead of buying a can of Raid. I prefer direct and immediate retaliation, i.e., verbal or physical confrontation. Which is to say, I don't take shit from nobody.
 
Using magic in retaliation to personal slights is a bit like deciding to deal with an ant problem by electing to burn down the house instead of buying a can of Raid. I prefer direct and immediate retaliation, i.e., verbal or physical confrontation. Which is to say, I don't take shit from nobody.

yep :D
 
but you are implying that you could if you wanted to?
Let me ask you something, do you believe in any of the following:

1. The power of prayer
2. A lucky streak
3. Serendipity
4. Deja vu
5. Hunches or lucky guesses
6. A good luck charm
7. Miracles

I could go on and on. But even if you don't believe in any of those things, there's no denying that there are facts about the universe that humans are just beginning to discover, (I'm talking quantum physics), that shakes up what we think we understand about the "laws" of the universe. If human thought has the capability of affecting a particle, how different is that from affecting something that we perceive as being larger? From certain philosophical (and even scientific) perspectives there is essentially very little difference between a quantum particle and a bus. They're both part of the same thing.

Having said that, sometimes what one person perceives as magic another perceives as taking advantage of a good opportunity; sometimes its the girl who rightly knows her boyfriend is cheating on her despite evidence to the contrary; or maybe it's even the secretary who worked at the world trade center and had a splitting headache on the morning of 9/11 and called out sick ... see what I'm saying?

On the other hand, everything could be bullshit and nothing surprising or miraculous ever happens, so what's the frigging difference :whatever: Humans are hardwired to perceive patterns and maybe coincidence and serendipity are nothing more than our brains trying to make sense out of a senseless dog eat dog world.
 
Let me ask you something, do you believe in any of the following:

1. The power of prayer
2. A lucky streak
3. Serendipity
4. Deja vu
5. Hunches or lucky guesses
6. A good luck charm
7. Miracles

I could go on and on. But even if you don't believe in any of those things, there's no denying that there are facts about the universe that humans are just beginning to discover, (I'm talking quantum physics), that shakes up what we think we understand about the "laws" of the universe. If human thought has the capability of affecting a particle, how different is that from affecting something that we perceive as being larger? From certain philosophical (and even scientific) perspectives there is essentially very little difference between a quantum particle and a bus. They're both part of the same thing.

Having said that, sometimes what one person perceives as magic another perceives as taking advantage of a good opportunity; sometimes its the girl who rightly knows her boyfriend is cheating on her despite evidence to the contrary; or maybe it's even the secretary who worked at the world trade center and had a splitting headache on the morning of 9/11 and called out sick ... see what I'm saying?

On the other hand, everything could be bullshit and nothing surprising or miraculous ever happens, so what's the frigging difference :whatever: Humans are hardwired to perceive patterns and maybe coincidence and serendipity are nothing more than our brains trying to make sense out of a senseless dog eat dog world.

That still doesnt answer the question of if you yourself can use magic on someone if you wanted to :)
 
Let me ask you something, do you believe in any of the following:

1. The power of prayer
2. A lucky streak
3. Serendipity
4. Deja vu
5. Hunches or lucky guesses
6. A good luck charm
7. Miracles

I could go on and on. But even if you don't believe in any of those things, there's no denying that there are facts about the universe that humans are just beginning to discover, (I'm talking quantum physics), that shakes up what we think we understand about the "laws" of the universe. If human thought has the capability of affecting a particle, how different is that from affecting something that we perceive as being larger? From certain philosophical (and even scientific) perspectives there is essentially very little difference between a quantum particle and a bus. They're both part of the same thing.

Having said that, sometimes what one person perceives as magic another perceives as taking advantage of a good opportunity; sometimes its the girl who rightly knows her boyfriend is cheating on her despite evidence to the contrary; or maybe it's even the secretary who worked at the world trade center and had a splitting headache on the morning of 9/11 and called out sick ... see what I'm saying?

On the other hand, everything could be bullshit and nothing surprising or miraculous ever happens, so what's the frigging difference :whatever: Humans are hardwired to perceive patterns and maybe coincidence and serendipity are nothing more than our brains trying to make sense out of a senseless dog eat dog world.


my point wasn't to hate on / mock / challenge you

i just want to know if you personally can (or believe you can if you haven't tried) use magic against someone
 
my point wasn't to hate on / mock / challenge you

i just want to know if you personally can (or believe you can if you haven't tried) use magic against someone
Weird question and really opens up an entire line of discussion that neither you or Superdave are interested in. I'll try to answer it but I don't think you'll really be satisfied.

What you have to understand is that it's not like Harry Potter or every Hollywood presentation of "magic." The world and our interactions with it, and each other, are bound by basic natural and ethical laws (because, trust me, if it weren't there would be WAY more rich witches out there). From a purely spiritual perspective, my rights end when they infringe on the life/free will of another without their permission, and that includes doing positive, helpful things. So would I consciously do something that would significantly and directly impact another, no (IOW, I would never truly wish ill on my ex husband, for example). And honestly, if you're in a fight for your life, the guy with the rock versus the guy with the magic is going to win every time.

However, have I "wished for" things to happen that, by all rights, shouldn't have and in so doing affected others. Yeah, I think so. You have to remember, when "magic" works it's not instantaneous or like a stage show, it's generally subtle (which is why I was using the metaphors of medical miracles and lucky guesses). It's better to think of it more as placing a request in the hands of the universe and having confidence that request will be filled in the course of natural events.

Without going into even more exhaustive details than I already have, I have had things happen in my life that I wanted very much TO happen that I definitely gave a little energetic nudge to. Sometimes it turned out I've gotten what I wanted because I followed a strong hunch, sometimes it was just a matter of a unusual opportunity presenting itself at a very opportune time. Some people would call either situation luck or coincidence. My personal opinion, the question begs to be asked, how much magic is simply one's perception? Assume that maybe you don't believe in magic, but you do believe in psychic phenomenon and ESP. The question then arises did I forsee what decisions to make so that I achieved a desired outcome, or did I simply know what the outcome was going to be, no matter how outrageous, and in so knowing unconsciously decided that was what I wanted?

Think how ancient people perceived lightning. Imagine that, like them, you can't quantify, measure or predictably reproduce this phenomenon. What would you call it? What would you think causes it? When ancient people saw the destructive power of a lightning strike, they simply saw the work of the gods and couldn't imagine it could possibly be anything else, much less a useful tool (and imagine if it was your neighbors house that was struck, and it just so happened that you just quarreled with this person, then imagine how your perceptions are skewed). When you think about it, magic is simply the name humans have applied to any technology or phenomenon we haven't come to understand yet :whatever:
 
Weird question and really opens up an entire line of discussion that neither you or Superdave are interested in. I'll try to answer it but I don't think you'll really be satisfied.

What you have to understand is that it's not like Harry Potter or every Hollywood presentation of "magic." The world and our interactions with it, and each other, are bound by basic natural and ethical laws (because, trust me, if it weren't there would be WAY more rich witches out there). From a purely spiritual perspective, my rights end when they infringe on the life/free will of another without their permission, and that includes doing positive, helpful things. So would I consciously do something that would significantly and directly impact another, no (IOW, I would never truly wish ill on my ex husband, for example). And honestly, if you're in a fight for your life, the guy with the rock versus the guy with the magic is going to win every time.

However, have I "wished for" things to happen that, by all rights, shouldn't have and in so doing affected others. Yeah, I think so. You have to remember, when "magic" works it's not instantaneous or like a stage show, it's generally subtle (which is why I was using the metaphors of medical miracles and lucky guesses). It's better to think of it more as placing a request in the hands of the universe and having confidence that request will be filled in the course of natural events.

Without going into even more exhaustive details than I already have, I have had things happen in my life that I wanted very much TO happen that I definitely gave a little energetic nudge to. Sometimes it turned out I've gotten what I wanted because I followed a strong hunch, sometimes it was just a matter of a unusual opportunity presenting itself at a very opportune time. Some people would call either situation luck or coincidence. My personal opinion, the question begs to be asked, how much magic is simply one's perception? Assume that maybe you don't believe in magic, but you do believe in psychic phenomenon and ESP. The question then arises did I forsee what decisions to make so that I achieved a desired outcome, or did I simply know what the outcome was going to be, no matter how outrageous, and in so knowing unconsciously decided that was what I wanted?

Think how ancient people perceived lightning. Imagine that, like them, you can't quantify, measure or predictably reproduce this phenomenon. What would you call it? What would you think causes it? When ancient people saw the destructive power of a lightning strike, they simply saw the work of the gods and couldn't imagine it could possibly be anything else, much less a useful tool (and imagine if it was your neighbors house that was struck, and it just so happened that you just quarreled with this person, then imagine how your perceptions are skewed). When you think about it, magic is simply the name humans have applied to any technology or phenomenon we haven't come to understand yet :whatever:



That post is far too long for my ADD to handle...can we get some cliff notes?
 
That post is far too long for my ADD to handle...can we get some cliff notes?
"... magic is simply the name humans have applied to any technology or phenomenon we haven't come to understand yet."
 
"... magic is simply the name humans have applied to any technology or phenomenon we haven't come to understand yet."

I like the way you put it! I have often wished for something bad to happen to someone (I know awful) but afterward felt guilty as if I really had something to do with it. Makes me wonder if I did!
 
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