Dude got busted by DEA for fina purchase

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

I have ALWAYS told you guys not to use a CC for ANY drug purchase,all you're doing is getting your name and personal info entered into a huge database.This applies even to non-scheduled items.Although they are not scheduled,they are still PRESCRIPTION DRUGS,and ordering them without a valid script is taking a big chance and putting a spot light on you whether you realize it or not.Be careful guys.

 

[OVRTrainer]

Re: COULD THIS BE TRUE???

I know it sounds fishy, but something similar happened to me. I ordered from V**A******.com and 2 weeks later, I also was awakened. My g/f answered the door and the next thing you know I had a UPS employee standing next to me. Not a USPS inspector, a UPS employee. He demanded that I turn over the fina cartridges which were still unopened. When I asked why he wanted them, he said "Because I gave you 80 bucks to order them for me last week dumbass". I said "oh yeah, i forgot".

BWAHAHAHA!!!

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Re: COULD THIS BE TRUE???

I know it sounds fishy, but something similar happened to me. I ordered from V**A******.com and 2 weeks later, I also was awakened. My g/f answered the door and the next thing you know I had a UPS employee standing next to me. Not a USPS inspector, a UPS employee. He demanded that I turn over the fina cartridges which were still unopened. When I asked why he wanted them, he said "Because I gave you 80 bucks to order them for me last week dumbass". I said "oh yeah, i forgot".

i was just about to get out the flame gun.

 

[OVRTrainer]

In all seriousness, I hope the guy responsible for the original story about being busted for receipt of cattle implants contacts Rick Collins . This is virtually unchartered territory and there are a number of issues such as circumstantial evidence, that make this a very interesting case!

 

[hitmeoff]

Re: COULD THIS BE TRUE???

I know it sounds fishy, but something similar happened to me. I ordered from V**A******.com and 2 weeks later, I also was awakened. My g/f answered the door and the next thing you know I had a UPS employee standing next to me. Not a USPS inspector, a UPS employee. He demanded that I turn over the fina cartridges which were still unopened. When I asked why he wanted them, he said "Because I gave you 80 bucks to order them for me last week dumbass". I said "oh yeah, i forgot".

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA best reply yet!!!

 

[jboldman]

If I thought it would do any good , I would. Hopefully some newbies will read this and be carefull since it is obvious you'all know so much that nothing can change your mind. Perhaps someone should ask rick collins his take on this then we could settle it. Even better yet, mr. bouncer, why don't you just dial up the dea and ask them? There is no doubt in my mind what their answer would be. It is just beyond my comprehension that something this obvious can be so glossed over.BTW, once you are in court paying thousands of dollars for lawers fees, you have already defacto lost even if you are found not guilty. I agree with the general consensus here that this did not happen to a casual user if it happened at all, the feds have bigger fish to fry. But, one of these days it will surely happen particularly if users like mr bouncer persist in proclaiming to the world how legal it is. As I have said many times before, once little johhny high school football player gets popped for fina among others and he expalins how he learned all about this great "legal" drug on the internet, it will be all over, at least as we know it now. I apologize if i come off as mr. knowitall but I really do have the best interests of bodybuilding at heart and truly believe that the cavalier attitude shown the legality of fina will ultimatey be the death of it for us all. It's too bad since it is my favorite drug next to test.

jb

If your really want to read the law I will post it for you or you can do a seach like i did.

since you seem to be such an expert on the subject, ie "look this up, read the law". why don't you post all of your knowledge about the subject so us unintelligent people can learn from you!

 

[NY Muscle]

This story is complete bullshit. If you cant realize that then I feel sorry for you.

Guys please DON’T think that the dude is lying..i know this kid..via email exchange the past few years..he is a stand up dude… but the story is misleading.

What happened is..a source who got busted not too long ago gave up all email address and addresses of customers…a few packages that this kid ordered were snagged by customs…at the same time the DEA has the customer list of fina buyers…they crosed referenced the address (im assuimg) and came up with a probable cause to bust him.

That’s it..

Now whether or not he got busted directly for fina purchases is beyond me..but I do know he ordered a lot per order..not like 1-2 carts…more than that.


This the most recent email I got from him”

<beging paste>

I never posted on that board but I will still check it
out....I met w/ the undercover narc last night at the
police station. He was real up front and cool as
hell. He told me they got a lead of me off a customer
list of a source.. Yupp, remember Jeeves.. he went
down like 2 months ago. They put together the fact I
was getting tons of packages and the mailmail(((my note: I think he means mailMAN)))
admitted
he delivered to my house many times.
Also reguarding fina..... the pellette come in foil
packs.. on the pack it says "trenbolan ascetate) ...
tren in ANY form is a FELONY! THe cop showed me out of
the book last night. U think a cop gives a shit if it
is converted or not? IT says TRENBOLAN on the pack and
in their giude it is classified as a Schedule 3..
thats a FELONY.. u go to jail for that shit.
legal for farmers or not..... its a felony for u or
me.

<end past>


so as always,..be careful guys…who knows if this whole fina purchasing is gonna fuck up big time sources and also the avg personal user….cause its so easy to cross reference addresses..

case in point…

lets say a very smart source sets up po boxes allover his area…with a fake ID…gets a few LARGE orders snagged by customs…then the source wizens up and never visits that po box ever again and uses the others…the DEA don’t know his real identity to they cant get him…now lets say he buys some fina…lets say he lives in like Jacksonville FL….he uses a credit card and has his billing address….the DEA sees that fina was sent a lot of times to Jacksonville and that is also where a few packages that got snagged were being sent to….. so any DEA agent with ½ a brain can put 2 and 2 together and have probable cause to investigate this guy and see if he has more gear in his house so they can tie him in with the snagged packages and bogus ID’s at the po boxes.


I’ve always said…its not a matter of IF you are gonna be busted..its WHEN…at any time these guys can get most of u…they know way too much…just watch your ass the best you can.

 

[me2dammit]

so

You cant prove a grown man that is buying fina is using it for human use. He could have cattle somewhere or be thinking about it.

Now a 16 year old kid on a sources list and ordering fina is a easy target. Considering some people that order fina also order gear and alot of sources have been busted the DEA has a big list to cross reference.

I think the DEA knows there are enough names on sources list they have confiscated to go after people for a long time. I don't think they will go after people who are adults and not on a sources list. To hard to prove they were diverting it for human use. It is on them to prove it, not on you.

Oh, this guy is ordering fina but says he plans on getting into cattle, we found no other drugs, no kits, no syringes but we know he was diverting it from its use. Thats like saying a guy that buys fertilizer is going to build a bomb. Without all the other materials it would be hard to prove intent. With them its easy.

Where was my kit? Where were the other drugs? Where was the syringe? How could I use this stuff? How do you know I was going to use this stuff? Simple possesion does not mean you diverted it for human use. Now when you have kits, syringes and other drugs and shit that could show INTENT, but without all that other shit where is the intent? If it was meant for current farmers why can joe blow log on and buy it without any proof of owning cattle?

Now if you falsified a bill of sale to get it, that could be trouble. But alot of places don't require that.

So again, it is my belief unless you are a teenager or someone that is on a suppliers list they would be hardpressed to show you were planning on using it on humans.

And are they really after users? Using cross references will bring down more DEALERS in the long run, by leaning on the users. Once they make all online sellers require proof of current ownership of cattle people could get fucked for forging and buying. Or they will have to change the law on fina.

 

[40butpumpin]

Wow, that sucks indeed.

 

[NY Muscle]

Re: so

Where was my kit? Where were the other drugs? Where was the syringe? How could I use this stuff? How do you know I was going to use this stuff? Simple possesion does not mean you diverted it for human use. Now when you have kits, syringes and other drugs and shit that could show INTENT, but without all that other shit where is the intent? If it was meant for current farmers why can joe blow log on and buy it without any proof of owning cattle?

Umn they found LOTS of stuff (juice/needles) in his home, AND FINA KITS…the INTENT is there..its simple as 1,2,3 for ANYONE to see it and for them to have probable cause to bust him.

you need to realize that these DEA fucks are on these boards all the time and have most likely bought a few kits to see what exactly is in the kit, so they know EXACTLY what these empty vials and filters and shit are for when they see the kit (still in the box) in the house.

They were probably looking for a big bust..but just got someone with a little more than personal use, but not enough to be considered a source.

The bottom line is, the story is true..i know this kid..hes not some liar..he has no reason to lie. He was just giving a heads up for others to watch out but people are jumping allover him for no reason..

Makes no sense.