Dressing For Success - What is wrong with people?

[yonkers weights]

I had someone come in this morning for an interview at 7:30am. Now I work in Business Banking for one of the largest financial groups in the world. I "Suit Up" everyday! No if's and's or buts about it. At work = Suit. The ONLY time I am working and not in a suit is if I am playing golf with a client. That's it!
The guy came in wearing dress pants and a golf polo? WTF was he thinking...
Now even if the job was business casual (which it is not) I would still wear a suit on my interview. No way am I hiring him. Am I being harsh or what?

 

[puddlemonkey]

I could wear torn jeans and a wife beater and you'd hire me. I'm that smooth

 

[the_clockwork]

appearance is key to success

 

[jackangel]

what's your impression of him otherwise?

 

[jd_uk]

"Am i being harsh or not?" - Depends if seemed like the best candidate for the job or not. If he was then tell him to buy a suit quickly and how he nearly blew his chance.

 

[the_clockwork]

will smith got hired w/ paint all over him and w/o a shirt in a movie I saw

 

[yonkers weights]

He was good, not great! Dressing the part is key in this business. I am not going to sit across the table from someone in jeans and give him $10million to deposit for me. Ya know. Will Smith did it but his job was over the phone!

 

[TheValley]

not my style....gotta go with the kahki and the polo...thats how i roll....

 

[chewyxrage]

Interview = suit

everyone should know this

 

[yonkers weights]

Chewyxrage = correct!

 

[crazyjoe]

I had someone come in this morning for an interview at 7:30am. Now I work in Business Banking for one of the largest financial groups in the world. I "Suit Up" everyday! No if's and's or buts about it. At work = Suit. The ONLY time I am working and not in a suit is if I am playing golf with a client. That's it!
The guy came in wearing dress pants and a golf polo? WTF was he thinking...
Now even if the job was business casual (which it is not) I would still wear a suit on my interview. No way am I hiring him. Am I being harsh or what?

Just curious, how did you get into that field? School? college?

 

[billfred]

Interview = suit

everyone should know this

Exactly - I don't care what job you are interviewing for.

 

[Tytan]

He was trying to get a job so he could buy a suit. I know that the proper dress is a big deal in the business world, but if someone is well qualified and can be groomed a little; You should give him a break during his interview.

 

[CrazyRussian]

Just curious, how did you get into that field? School? college?

I second that question, very curious

 

[yonkers weights]

I went to college for Business Management and Communications. I ran several health clubs for a couple of years after college, then I got a job working for the Mayor doing Economic Development. I did that for 4 years and took my current job 2 years ago.

Just curious, how did you get into that field? School? college?

 

[yonkers weights]

I agree and if he was amazing then yes.
He is 43 years old and should know better. Has expierence in this line of work too. See my point.
Young person just out of college, yes, they would get a break but not this guy. These days you can pick up a cheap suit if you are young for interviews for like $99. Buy a black suit, 2 white shirts and 2 ties and you are ready to interview for under $200. Then when you get the job increase your closet after a couple of checks.

He was trying to get a job so he could buy a suit. I know that the proper dress is a big deal in the business world, but if someone is well qualified and can be groomed a little; You should give him a break during his interview.

 

[seaking420]

Fuck suits, I go into interviews with sandals on no shirt and a cowboy hat. Whats up now !!!!

J/K seriously, any job interview you should wear a suit. First impressions are big, and your first impression is how the person looks----hair combed(sorry Jh1), shaved, clothes, handshake, etc

 

[yonkers weights]

Agree 100%. In an interview you need to sell yourself! If you don't look the part then...

 

[calveless wonder]

suits are a must in the business world, at least in an interview. you need to look professional and act like you give a shit

i love wearing suits, makes me feel ready to work

 

[yonkers weights]

I love putting my suit on in the am.
Gets me pumped up! Dress for success!!!

"When I am not closing deals, I'm closing deals!"

 

[nefertiti]

I love wearing suits, too. Aside from looking completely awesome in them, they definitely get me in the right "mindset." Who I am at work and who I am at home are two completely different entities. How I dress and present myself in the office is meticulously thought out.

 

[Feynman]

I've always disdained suits.

 

[heatherrae]

Maybe he doesn't have the money for a suit right now and that was the best that he had. I didn't look my best on my interview the other day because I had to buy separate maternity pants and a jacket. It was not the quality suit that I would have worn non-prego. I couldn't find one that fit and I didn't have much money to spend.

Give him a break if you think it may be a money issue.

 

[ShowKidd]

"Am i being harsh or not?" - Depends if seemed like the best candidate for the job or not. If he was then tell him to buy a suit quickly and how he nearly blew his chance.

very true, good people are hard to come by and if he seems like someone you wanna work with than coach him a little, apparently there was something about this guys that struck a positive chord with you to wanna start this thread, i am sure it isn't the first interview you have done.

 

[Razorguns]

if someone is smart, knows their shit, they could come in in jeans and still be hired.

maybe it was a hot day, and this was comfortable for him? u rather have employees sweat and have armpit stains?

you're hiring him for his brains. focus on that. clothes can be changed in 5 mins. i hesitate about joining an organization that values clothes over brains. it's usually a sign of a company that hires paycheck hounds and cubicle monkeys, over smart passionated educated well trained people.

my doctor could be wearing dockers, a suit, scrubs, lab coat - i don't care. i want him smart.

r

 

[CrazyRussian]

if someone is smart, knows their shit, they could come in in jeans and still be hired.

maybe it was a hot day, and this was comfortable for him? u rather have employees sweat and have armpit stains?

you're hiring him for his brains. focus on that. clothes can be changed in 5 mins. i hesitate about joining an organization that values clothes over brains. it's usually a sign of a company that hires paycheck hounds and cubicle monkeys, over smart passionated educated well trained people.

my doctor could be wearing dockers, a suit, scrubs, lab coat - i don't care. i want him smart.

r

nah dude. When you do business with someone, the way you dress says something about you. No one cares if you'd look better in leather pants, and no one cares if you'd be more comfortable in jeans. A nice suit says a lot of things about you.

How would you feel if your doctor had a huge beard and wore sandals and flip flops? How would you feel if your banker wore a tank top and shorts? You'd probably lose confidence in them...because those are two fields in which the utmost professionalism is required. Same goes for (serious) interviews...

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

I had someone come in this morning for an interview at 7:30am. Now I work in Business Banking for one of the largest financial groups in the world. I "Suit Up" everyday! No if's and's or buts about it. At work = Suit. The ONLY time I am working and not in a suit is if I am playing golf with a client. That's it!
The guy came in wearing dress pants and a golf polo? WTF was he thinking...
Now even if the job was business casual (which it is not) I would still wear a suit on my interview. No way am I hiring him. Am I being harsh or what?

what do you do?
what is your title?
what is the company you work for?

 

[Razorguns]

How would you feel if your doctor had a huge beard and wore sandals and flip flops? How would you feel if your banker wore a tank top and shorts? You'd probably lose confidence in them...because those are two fields in which the utmost professionalism is required. Same goes for (serious) interviews...

you're trying to use extreme examples.

i'm talking about just dressing comfortably. maybe business casual.

when i do interviews, i'm shirt, dress pants, tie, and i carry a jacket. plus i'm in great shape. i do fine. i could also dress in business casual, and since i'm in great shape - that alone sends a good positive image. rather than a fat slob wearing a polo shirt.

unfortuantely, we value physical appearance over intelligence in the cubicile warrior world. it's sad, but for monkey work positions - i guess you could use that as a differentiator.

for my entertainment company - i don't want a office monkey. if the guy comes in wearing jeans, and blows me away with his passion and intelligence and warm personality - i hire him.

assuming he doesn't come in wearing flip flops and wife beater lol!

r

 

[CrazyRussian]

you're trying to use extreme examples.

i'm talking about just dressing comfortably. maybe business casual.

when i do interviews, i'm shirt, dress pants, tie, and i carry a jacket. plus i'm in great shape. i do fine. i could also dress in business casual, and since i'm in great shape - that alone sends a good positive image. rather than a fat slob wearing a polo shirt.

unfortuantely, we value physical appearance over intelligence in the cubicile warrior world. it's sad, but for monkey work positions - i guess you could use that as a differentiator.

for my entertainment company - i don't want a office monkey. if the guy comes in wearing jeans, and blows me away with his passion and intelligence and warm personality - i hire him.

assuming he doesn't come in wearing flip flops and wife beater lol!

r

Well, the "protocol" is obviously different in the entertainment industry than in the business industry. In entertainment, since it's more of a creative thing, I can see why wardrobe would be less important. But in a business setting...it just aint appropriate to not wear a suit.

 

[Razorguns]

it just aint appropriate to not wear a suit.

would you not hire an engineer who's got 20 accreditations, written articles in books, runs a website, has an impressive resume, can blow all your other engineers out of the water, physically fit, has a good personality...

cuz he's wearing business casual?

i'd hate to work for your company.

r

 

[Sub-Zero]

my mom says she is pretty much given up on making me dress nice and wishes i would. i wore gym shorts every day of summer till last week when i took progress pics and shaved my entire body with the buzz trimmer and got a haircut a short one my hair was kinda long for me i have pics,

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[puddlemonkey]

when i do interviews, i'm shirt, dress pants, tie, and i carry a jacket. plus i'm in great shape. i do fine. i could also dress in business casual, and since i'm in great shape - that alone sends a good positive image.

What kind of shape you in bro?

 

[puddlemonkey]

but for monkey work positions - i guess you could use that as a differentiator.

for my entertainment company - i don't want a office monkey.

Why you gotta take shots at me?

 

[Wulfgar]

completely depends on the Job IMHO
but in the buisness world...I would agree a suit is mandatory

 

[jackangel]

please ask this middle-aged candidate why he didn't wear a suit. report back to us.

 

[Sub-Zero]

please ask this middle-aged candidate why he didn't wear a suit. report back to us.

hopefully he was getting a feel for a getaway for when he assassinates him

 

[CrazyRussian]

would you not hire an engineer who's got 20 accreditations, written articles in books, runs a website, has an impressive resume, can blow all your other engineers out of the water, physically fit, has a good personality...

cuz he's wearing business casual?

i'd hate to work for your company.

r

You must have misread my post. I specifically said that it is important to be well dressed in the "business industry". Basically anywhere that you're trying to make a good impression and/or represent your company. Engineers don't need to do either of these things...thus your example is not really valid.

BTW, how often does a candidate come along that is so amazing and so much more qualified than all of the other candidates that the interviewers will just hire him on the spot? Especially for prestigious companies hiring the brightest of the brightest? I admit it happens rarely, but what really happens most of the time is that a company is interviewing a shitload of highly qualified candidates for a job. If I was an interviewer, how the person presented himself would weigh in heavily on my decision. The reasons for this, I think, are self explanatory.

 

[Razorguns]

You must have misread my post. I specifically said that it is important to be well dressed in the "business industry". Basically anywhere that you're trying to make a good impression and/or represent your company. Engineers don't need to do either of these things...thus your example is not really valid.

BTW, how often does a candidate come along that is so amazing and so much more qualified than all of the other candidates that the interviewers will just hire him on the spot? Especially for prestigious companies hiring the brightest of the brightest? I admit it happens rarely, but what really happens most of the time is that a company is interviewing a shitload of highly qualified candidates for a job. If I was an interviewer, how the person presented himself would weigh in heavily on my decision. The reasons for this, I think, are self explanatory.

well maybe i'm biased cuz i hire people cuz of skills, and not 'sales people', or 'executives' where image is important.

but -- i am soooo tired of all these well-dressed flashy posers that walk in my office. trying to impress with their $500 suits, expensive cologne, nice haircut, perfectly scripted speeches, fake smiles, fake personality, read every tip from inc magazine they could find. thinking it'll "influence" my decision.

and of course, interview starts - i find out they're total morons with robot personalities, and just want a job to pay for their overpriced mortgage. paycheck houdns. they don't even like i.t.

then i hire some chinese guy, 29, dresses 'okay', nervous, isn't all suave and fancy with his 4-hour speeches about how great he is, but can massacre everyone on the planet with his technical knowledge, and ability to work in a team.

and he's the guy i hire.

i'm starting an entertainment company, and i'm gonna hire camera guys, editors, road crew, etc. - and i'm gonna look for the same qualities. I guess when it's YOUR money on the table - you tend to not care about suits, and more about their ability to do the job.

as for shape: in the fatty office world - anyone who doesn't have a gut, is seen like a olympic athlete. lol! my office is prolly 95% overweight. i shit you not.

r

 

[yonkers weights]

Can't ask that, against the law!

please ask this middle-aged candidate why he didn't wear a suit. report back to us.

 

[yonkers weights]

Business Banking - I work with large companies on their deposits, loans, lines of credit, mortgages, escrows, etc...
East Coast Business Banking Director for Citi
Title just changed since we became One Citi (Smith Barney integration)

what do you do?
what is your title?
what is the company you work for?

 

[EnderJE]

I'd hire the guy who can do the job based on the skill set, experience and the behavioral interview. But then again, I'm not really in a sales type job where image is paramount.

Nor do I want to work for those where image is paramount. I used to do that.

They all seemed like "big hat, no cattle" type people.

 

[yonkers weights]

Image is EVERYTHING in this business. You have to look the part. When I ran health clubs, if I person came in a suit I would not hire them. You need to dress for the role! Plain and simple!

 

[covergrl80]

Just give him the job. His clothes are not doing the work the man is.

 

[yonkers weights]

Again - he did not WOW me. Even if he had a suit on, not sure if I would hire him. That is not the only reason he is not getting hired.

 

[EnderJE]

Image is EVERYTHING in this business. You have to look the part. When I ran health clubs, if I person came in a suit I would not hire them. You need to dress for the role! Plain and simple!

Dude, relax. I was saying that my business isn't like that. I used to be in that type of business, but I'm not anymore.

However, if I had a sales type position with high power clients, I would show him the door if he came in without looking the part.

 

[yonkers weights]

I was not being an ass. Sorry if it came across that way!

 

[manny78]

Men, cast off your conformist garb and unleash creativity with T-shirts at work
By Peter Fleischer

Published: July 21 2007 03:00 | Last updated: July 21 2007 03:00

From Mr Peter Fleischer.

Sir, Your fashion editor analyses whether the tie has a future ("In spite of Paxman, the tie will flap again", Outside Edge, July 14/15). Well, it has a rather bloody past, to be sure.

It constricts circulation to the brain. And it acts as decorative camouflage for the business suit, designed to shield the middle-aged male physique, with its shrinking shoulders and protruding paunch, from feeling sufficiently self-conscious to hit the gym.

Men should lose their "business attire" and wear T-shirts to work. Wouldn't you like to know whether your business partners are fit? Why should you trust a man in business if he abuses his own body? And heaven knows what waves of creativity might be unleashed, when men are freed from conformist garb.

If your fashion editor can hardly imagine a better garment for men to exhibit their personality, power and masculinity than wearing ties, well . . . I work at Google. Our unofficial motto is, "Be serious without a suit."

Peter Fleischer,

Global Privacy Counsel,

Google,

75002 Paris,

France

 

[yonkers weights]

GREAT FIND MANNY!
I would love business casual or tee shirt attire. At the gym I was able to pull that off but not these days. I have to deal with what rules I am given until I own the bank...

 

[abolish the weak]

Well, what if this guy was from another area where they discouraged suits? When I lived in NY everyone wore suits to corporate jobs. Then I moved to a different type of climate and environment in the south, and people wear polo shirts and khacki pants. It does not mean they do the job any worse. Just tell him he needs to wear one if he wants to work there. Base the interview on everything else, him not wearing a suit was a one time deal, you can fix that. You may get someone else in there who has the nicest,newest suit, but is a fucking idiot. IMO

 

[yonkers weights]

He has lived in NY longer then I have been alive and has done this type of job with another group that wears suits for 8 years.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I had someone come in this morning for an interview at 7:30am. Now I work in Business Banking for one of the largest financial groups in the world. I "Suit Up" everyday! No if's and's or buts about it. At work = Suit. The ONLY time I am working and not in a suit is if I am playing golf with a client. That's it!
The guy came in wearing dress pants and a golf polo? WTF was he thinking...
Now even if the job was business casual (which it is not) I would still wear a suit on my interview. No way am I hiring him. Am I being harsh or what?

Did you see The Pursuit of Happyness?

Did you ask the guy why he was dressed that way for an interview?

 

[yonkers weights]

Yea, I saw it. He went for a broker position. That is OVER THE PHONE SALES. Not face to face.

No, you can not ask that question. Against the law.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Yea, I saw it. He went for a broker position. That is OVER THE PHONE SALES. Not face to face.

No, you can not ask that question. Against the law.

There are creative ways to ask every question.

I thought it was interesting how they posed the question in the movie, "What would you say to me if I told you that I hired a man who came on a job interview without a shirt?"

I realize that it is a movie/not necessarily real life even though it was based on a true story and I also realize over-the-phone sales (which is a lot of how we conduct business - though are largest accounts are in-person) need most importantly have a good "phone face" (as in radio face LOL).

I suppose I think outside the box and would be aghast that someone would show up for such a position dressed that way, especially someone with experience. My curiosity would get the best of me and I would want to know what that person was thinking/what their situation was.

Just goes to show that you never get a second chance to make a first impression.

 

[yonkers weights]

Very true!

 

[Bikini Mod]

I am thinkin maybe he really didn't want the job? ...just goin through the motions...

 

[yonkers weights]

Could be true. He sent me an email last night thanking me for my time and was looking forward to hearing back from me. Sounds like he is interested. He did do the right thing. I was just not WOW'ed. Maybe invite him and 2 others back for 2nd interviews. Maybe that will push him...

 

[heatherrae]

Can't ask that, against the law!

Against the law? What law? I don't think so.

 

[nefertiti]

My firm basically gets to hand pick the best and the brightest from the top business schools in the country. When there isn't much to seperate me from another candidate, it comes down to intangibles. Knowing how to send a message with how you present yourself is a part of the job, and can easily be a tie breaking point.

 

[yonkers weights]

You can not ask someone about their clothes? There are certain questions and or topics you can not talk about. I have a whole list from HR to review before ever interview.

You can ask if someone has been convicted of a crime but not if they have been arrested?
You can ask someone if they are able to work in the US but not if they are a resident?
You can ask someone if they are atleast 18 years of age but not how old they are?
You can not ask if someone owns a car but can ask if they have transportation to get to work?

We are a huge company and people set up interviews just to see if someone asks the wrong question so they can sue us! It sucks!

 

[yonkers weights]

Agree! You need to seperate yourself from the group. All are usually in the same area of knowledge when you get to this level. It is a Regional Manager position not an entry level.... They will be running our new market place in Boston! Big time! a lot fo eyes on this area for us.

My firm basically gets to hand pick the best and the brightest from the top business schools in the country. When there isn't much to seperate me from another candidate, it comes down to intangibles. Knowing how to send a message with how you present yourself is a part of the job, and can easily be a tie breaking point.

 

[Razorguns]

funny. my fellow manager hired a guy who 'fit the image' and was well dressed, well spoken, etc.

he surfs the web most of his day

i found it funny

r

 

[yonkers weights]

Kind of like you... Surfing the web.... Weird!

 

[Gambino]

i love how every other ef poster is a high power executive who makes or breaks peoples careers on a daily basis
serioulsy lol
thank god i don't work in a prentenious industry, wearing a suit everyday is sooo uncomfortable and fake
my doctor favors tie-dies and has a big bushy beard...yet he still is professional and has a bumping business.

 

[yonkers weights]

I don't make or break people careers. People do!

 

[Gambino]

I don't make or break people careers. People do!

i know i'm not gonna change your opinion or the business model, but think about how shallow it is to solely judge someone on wether they are wearing a suit or not.
all a suit is is fabric, nothing more. you can be the shadiest, dirtiest mofo around and a suit will not change that. true class can only come from within, not from the fabric you wear

 

[yonkers weights]

I agree and that is not what I based my option on. It is a small part. Read my other posts. He did not WOW me. There are 2 others with the same knowledge and skill set. They looked ready to take the postion that day! When you meet with 11 people and 1 does not have a suit on, it stands out in a bad way. Ya know. The job requires a suit. Why would you not wear one on your interview? That's it.

 

[Gambino]

I agree and that is not what I based my option on. It is a small part. Read my other posts. He did not WOW me. There are 2 others with the same knowledge and skill set. They looked ready to take the postion that day! When you meet with 11 people and 1 does not have a suit on, it stands out in a bad way. Ya know. The job requires a suit. Why would you not wear one on your interview? That's it.

lol i don't even own a suit
i really enjoy the fact that i will never have to wear one in a work setting
how uncomfortable, esp in the sun.

 

[the_clockwork]

hahaha holy fucking literal

 

[yonkers weights]

Lol

 

[Bikini Mod]

Come on people! Everyfreakingbody knows that whether we like it or not - you never get a second chance to make a first impression. If you work in an industry where jeans and T-shirt are acceptable work attire then no duh, it wouldn't matter. But this guy has experience. WTF was he thinking showing up to the interview wearing a polo shirt and slacks?

Would it surprize you all to know that I actually was advised (and listened) to take out my nose-piercing before facing a judge in traffic court. WTF does minimal jewelry have to do with my penalty for speeding? THE IMPRESSION I MAKE ON THE JUDGE - THAT'S WHAT. This is Texas and he was a Good Ole Boy. I found him to be very reasonable (had to sit there for 1 hour till it was my turn so I heard a lot.). Would it have mattered had I not removed the little dangly from my nose? I don't know. But seeing as how I was facing some stiff fines, why would I not go that extra mille?

 

[yonkers weights]

SO FUCKING TRUE! You must of read the posts and got the whole picture! Thanks!

 

[CrazyRussian]

Exactly. Interviews are like dates. A lot of people are going to say "I dont need to dress up on a date. How I dress doesn't show anything about how kind I am or how cool I am or how this and that I am. If she likes me she'll like me for who I am." Those are the same people who say "what I wear to an interview doesn't say anything about me, etc." I guess this is a valid viewpoint...i just don't agree

 

[yonkers weights]

They are the same people who don't get a second date or a second interview!

 

[jackangel]

there's no doubt that a person interviewing the right way will dress in a suit for any office/corporate job. despite the limitations or rigidity of the mindset which expects/requires a suit, it is what it is. it's important because it's important.

stupid, perhaps, but if you want a job...wearing a suit is the easiest of things to do (unless you're homeless, in which case you should stroll in naked).

 

[Bikini Mod]

There are programs where homeless/low income/victims of domestic abuse have access to proper clothing so that they can get back on their feet by getting better jobs.

You all know that if one does not have proper attire on a job interview that can't HELP their chances of getting the job.

This guy is upper level managment in a job market where HE KNOWS he needs to wear a suit. Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I would want to know WHY he did not wear a suit. Who knows... his answered might have demonstrated some sort of situation that was an indicator how hard he was working to overcome some sort of personal/financial situation - or the opposite - that this guy isn't in tune/bright enough to present himself properly to manage/lead or interface with potential clients effectively.

 

[nefertiti]

i know i'm not gonna change your opinion or the business model, but think about how shallow it is to solely judge someone on wether they are wearing a suit or not.
all a suit is is fabric, nothing more. you can be the shadiest, dirtiest mofo around and a suit will not change that. true class can only come from within, not from the fabric you wear

No one here has said it should even be a top priority in judging a candidate. But when you have the luxury of having almost every person you interview having nearly identical and impressive resumes, that's the kind of thing that can and will be a tie breaker. There just isn't that much disparity between people vying for these positions. Without a stellar resume you won't even get an interview, so how could someone with his amount of experience be dumb enough not to understand that he needed to make sure he had ALL his bases covered, including his attire?

Edit: I've sat in on a few interviews and assisted, though I am not important enough to make the call lol. I remember one woman who came in was dressed pretty nicely, conservative but stylish...but her shirt was ill fitting for her....bosom size. She was a little on the heavy side, so when she sat down the space between the buttons spread and I could see her bra. It was so distracting that I could barely focus on what she was saying, and I'm not gay (she wasn't hot, anyway). When she left, my boss and I shared a "look" and he said, "Nice bra, eh?" She didn't get the call. It wasn't even that she came off as trashy or anything - she didn't. But her clothes were a distraction and that's what he remembered most. He may not even have consciously decided not to call her because of that, but when reviewing the people he spoke to for the position if he recalls one person for the ease and flow of the interview, another for being impressed with his/her specific answer to a question, and her for her bra....

Point being, you don't want what you wore to the interview to be what they are talking about afterward, and if you wear something that will make you stand out from other people interviewing, that's what will happen. (speaking, of course, just for this general line of work)

 

[manny78]

When in Rome, do as romans do. So for a serious interview get a fucking suit. Like it or not, that's the way it is.

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

Business Banking - I work with large companies on their deposits, loans, lines of credit, mortgages, escrows, etc...
East Coast Business Banking Director for Citi
Title just changed since we became One Citi (Smith Barney integration)

director? you pulling down 500k a year?

 

[calveless wonder]

lol @ those people saying a suit shouldn't matter.

its a matter of respect for the company, and whoever is interviewing . Look nice, well groomed and show that you take it seriously. it's also a matter of self respect

My business persona/style and my everyday style are completely different. it's just in the business world, you have to be professional looking and sounding (unless you have such an amazing reputation or that well known/established, than maybe it can be oversighted somewhat).

everyone can afford at least ONE suit. Even the most broke person can go to Men's warehouse and buy something that looks halfway decent.
piss poor excuse, especially for someone who's 40+

 

[Razorguns]

lol @ those people saying a suit shouldn't matter.

its a matter of respect for the company, and whoever is interviewing . Look nice, well groomed and show that you take it seriously. it's also a matter of self respect

My business persona/style and my everyday style are completely different. it's just in the business world, you have to be professional looking and sounding (unless you have such an amazing reputation or that well known/established, than maybe it can be oversighted somewhat).

everyone can afford at least ONE suit. Even the most broke person can go to Men's warehouse and buy something that looks halfway decent.
piss poor excuse, especially for someone who's 40+

i've interviewed 20 people in the past 2 months or so. Everyone has dressed fine. I haven't seen one person come in wearing flip-flops or bermuda shorts. Are these myths?

Instead of focusing on suits, lose some fucking weight. I don't mean be 5% bf, but so many 250lb hippos apply for professional jobs. And to me, if you don't value yourself to keep in shape, what makes u think you'll value your job? And some of these people are like freakin' 27! And we're not big fans of rising health costs for us.

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[bigmann245]

my motto is "dress to impress". i mean after i left the club scene i decided to drive a cab while in school. well the cab drivers here are not known for their tea party and country club looks if you know what i mean. well for my interview i came in wearing a suite and they all looked at me like i was high. when i drove the cab i would wear black dress pants, nice dress shoes and a white sirt, vest and tie and also cufflinks to add that little touch. people thought i was nuts wearing that in a cab. well let me tell you i made more money than anyone else there. i got complemented all the time from customers and they all said they had NEVER been in a cab where the driver dressed like i did. people began to ask for me by name when they called for a cab.

if you look like shit you either are a shitty person and dont care or you give that impression

if you look like a million bucks you act like it and it shows. i dont care if your interviewing for a janitors position, wear a suite it goes a long way. at leased a shirt and tie.

 

[Smurfy]

I had someone come in this morning for an interview at 7:30am. Now I work in Business Banking for one of the largest financial groups in the world. I "Suit Up" everyday! No if's and's or buts about it. At work = Suit. The ONLY time I am working and not in a suit is if I am playing golf with a client. That's it!
The guy came in wearing dress pants and a golf polo? WTF was he thinking...
Now even if the job was business casual (which it is not) I would still wear a suit on my interview. No way am I hiring him. Am I being harsh or what?

Well I guess you didn't see the movie Pursuit of Happiness