Don't Fear Bloating!

[mattdan]

Hmm... is the sleep apnea effect common for people? I don't think I've heard that one before. Also, have you tried other diuretics and found they don't work as well as lasix or the lasix-type diuretics?

I believe the sleep apnea is far more common than many realize, although I think I get it with lower doses than most. How often do we see posts from someone complaining that they're on gear and are tired during the day? I think very often this is caused by sleep apnea.

Lasix is the only thing I've really tried. It's easy to get and very cheap. I don't care for the potassium depletion as it can sometimes lead to cramping.

Do you have a suggestion for something besides lasix?

 

[Nelson Montana]

One: As needsize stated, Nolva isn;t really great for bloating and it's the most suporessive to IGF. I think a lot of people are missing the point of the thread. A: Water gain has its advantages. And B: For excess bloat a natty solution is available.

As for sleep apnea, that sucks. I've experienced it myself. It' s more from rapid weight gain than water and can be prevented 90% of the time if you condition yourself to sleep on your side.

 

[mattdan]

I have to sleep on my stomach, I even get it on my side. I guess I'm just prone to it. My neck is pretty big, I think that's the main reason I'm prone to it.

As to your main point, I completely agree that size adds strength. anti-e's do reduce gains, but I've never personally seen a huge difference. It's just a trade off that many of us are willing to make. Sacrifice a small percentage of the gains for other reasons or health issues.

I mean if anti-e's totally killed gains, mas teron would be a self defeating drug. (I know you're not saying they kill gains, just reduce them).

 

[samoth]

I believe the sleep apnea is far more common than many realize, although I think I get it with lower doses than most. How often do we see posts from someone complaining that they're on gear and are tired during the day? I think very often this is caused by sleep apnea.

Lasix is the only thing I've really tried. It's easy to get and very cheap. I don't care for the potassium depletion as it can sometimes lead to cramping.

Do you have a suggestion for something besides lasix?

I seem to recall there being, like, three or so classes of diuretics, all working in different ways. I don't have any experiences with this stuff, so I was just wondering if you found certain types better than others in this regard. I thought there might have been a reason you chose lasix over other "easier" ones.

 

[Selene]

Excellent topic

 

[gslben]

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[mattdan]

I seem to recall there being, like, three or so classes of diuretics, all working in different ways. I don't have any experiences with this stuff, so I was just wondering if you found certain types better than others in this regard. I thought there might have been a reason you chose lasix over other "easier" ones.

What do you mean by "easier ones"? I have been wanting to try one of the potassium sparing diuretics, is that what you mean by easier?

And to any newbies that read this - if you take lasix, only do so in moderation. This is one of those drugs that if abused can cause serious problems.

 

[samoth]

What do you mean by "easier ones"? I have been wanting to try one of the potassium sparing diuretics, is that what you mean by easier?

Yes, by easier I meant safer, k-sparing diuretics.

Do you use any supplements like potassium with lasix, or do you find that a low dose does not require such?

 

[mattdan]

Yes, by easier I meant safer, k-sparing diuretics.

Do you use any supplements like potassium with lasix, or do you find that a low dose does not require such?

Very rarely. I keep a bottle of potassium on hand just in case, but I never need it. As long as I stay properly hydrated I don't get cramps, on the rare occasion that I do a glass of OJ and/or a bananna seems to provide more than enough potassium.

 

[mobro]

threads like this one are the ones that help people. giving props where do:

Samoth and Nelson, and now Needto is agreeing, you guys are the reason I have shortened my cycles and lowered my doses. i have felt better, recovered better, saved money, and gained just as much without the sides such as Deca dick and loss of libido.