Don't Fear Bloating!

[georgie24]

i dont agree with this post

 

[jeb0177]

I hate boating period. little bloat and my bp goes up...not good for me.

 

[ShowKidd]

what about the additional water around the heart?

i believe that it what causes high blood pressure since the blood stream is the second biggest storage area for water (muscles being the first) that is why hypertensive people take diuretics, if it wasn't a big deal to carry all that extra water then they wouldn't need them. i personally do not like carrying extra water weight because i adjust my diet accordingly and if i gained 10 lbs in 2 weeks how am i gonna know if it was water or to many calories? and as far as anti e's slowing gains, it has been shown a million times and written in a lot of books that it isn't enough to worry about.

 

[Triple J]

well when i say bloat i mean BLOAT not just a little water in the muscles, but water around the internal organs. too much bloat is an indication the system is out of balance and as such this impose greater health risks i.e. BP / HTN, heart problems, diaphragmatic hernia, GERD, constipation ... not to mention just feeling like shit. being bloated will usually reduce ones appetite. the stomach and GI systems stretch receptors will be over-stimulated suppressing hunger and normal motility.

 

[needsize]

boy nelson, I am agreeing with so much that you have posted lately
I have been saying this one for a while, with bloat comes strength, with strength usually comes extra muscle growth, so I have never worried about bloat unless dieting for something...

 

[tampdav]

What about bromocriptinemesylate or triamterene/hctz for bloat instead of anastrozole when the the bloat is so bad you can't put your shoes on?

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I also have to agree with Nelson on this.

After having finished my first cycle (500mg test EW) with some Dianabol - methandrostenolone - I learned ALOT of things.

I used aromasin throughout and used it every day. All told I gained 16lbs and kept 13. My strength started skyrocketing around week 5 and didn't let up at all.

I felt like crap throughout the whole cycle and lethargic. I trained hard and ate alot, but I just didn't feel that hot. I also had some consistent shortness of breath which I believe was nothing more than first cycle anxiety.

I used, and you can laugh if you want to, about 2.5mg aromasin ed throughout and I feel that was too much for me at 500mg test ew.

I'm 1 week into my second cycle(500mg Sustanon ew and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - kickstart) and I'm using 2.5mg aromasin e3d and I feel good.

As little as 2.5mg aromasin is, I think that shit is powerful and believe I felt the effects of constant lowered estrogen levels.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Did your MD do an ECHO to see if there was fluid arounf your heart our is he just assuming? some MDs make a lot of assumptions which we like to call clinical judgement and are not always right.

Sure your pressure came down with the diuretic. thats generally the first BP drug MDs will prescribe. Was it HCTZ?

 

[layinback]

A lot of guys are so afraid of retatining water and they use all sorts of shit to get rid of it. NOT, a good idea.

Part of bloating is increased blood volume. This brings more nutrients to the muscles and allows for greater growth. Why get rid of that? Water also soothes the joints and increases strength. (A good portion of the incresed strength from creatine is the water retention). The supplement VIGOR increases blood volume and that too is another reason why it's effective. Let the steroids do their thing!

Of course, no one wants a moon face. But that is avoidable simply by using lower dosages. ADroll is the worst for this because it's the one steroid which increases blood volume the most! Just keep it under control.

Using anti e's to reduce bloat just isn't smart, AND...it hinders gains by lowering IGF.

Nobody likes bloat but it's more of a vanity thing. If you just want to get rid of a little water under the skin, a natty diuretic (DEFINITION being the best IMO) is all you need. And break a sweat during your workout! If the edema gets so bad that your blood pressure rises, take a triple dose of DEFINITION for 3 days, drink a lot of water and take it easy on the salt and it should get you back to normal.

Water retention is a part of cycling. Keep it under control but don't try to elliminate it altogether.

my third cycle was abombs and sus, bloated like abig dog!!! go to my guy, he trains competitors, and im like "dude look at my face" he said " thats the juice doin its thing, thats why you are stronger, deal with it" i have never used anything for bloat, i do really light cycles for short durations and it typically is not an issue. i am amazed at some of the monster cycles and accompanying ancillaries i see on ef. to each his own.

 

[yankees5677]

boy nelson, I am agreeing with so much that you have posted lately
I have been saying this one for a while, with bloat comes strength, with strength usually comes extra muscle growth, so I have never worried about bloat unless dieting for something...

Needsize and Nelson...
I am taking .25mg ed arimidex to prevent any gyno on my cycle of test, deca, and dbol. I am not taking it to prevent water retention. I dont mind the water retention at all. How can you prevent gyno without taking an anti e and not affect water retention?