Don't Fear Bloating!

[mattdan]

I agree Nelson but in my case anything more than minor water retention causes pretty bad sleep apnea and increase in my (already marginal) BP.

I HAVE to keep the water off. I generally use light doses of lasix 40 mg ed which is a very safe dose and is pretty effective.

I will check out your products as well. I want to try your test booster / anti E

 

[danymal04]

i take a tiny drop of letro every 3 to 4 days because with every cycle I've ran I've bloated moon face style which turns me into a freakish ugly. Maybe its just me, but that drop drops weight I believe, saves me hassle w/ blood pressure issues as it always rises and still am gaining already 3-4lbs looking solid bros. I want to get jacked dont get me wrong and grow. But i believe it will all work out in the end and if not, I'm not convinced to converty back because that style is way to unhealthy for me even when my diet is healthy.

 

[gslben]

Not so much fear but.....

When everyone you know just rolls their eyes and shakes their head at you because one week you are normal and the next your face looks like a balloon.....that's my concern

 

[socket]

The use of anti-estrogens should be absolutely minimal, these are harsh chems, and shouldn't be fucked with unless absolutely NEEDED.

I have Femara, nolvadex, arimidex all in the cupboard, and only IF i feel gyno coming on, do they get chance to leave the cupboard. Drugs aromatise when used at high levels. if they are aromatising, you are overdoing it. Cut back a little.

as for water retention, Needsize has it spot on, with water, joints are better lubed, you are stronger, etc, so in these conditions, you get stronger and bigger. If you are really bloating, drop the sodium/sodas, etc, get some cardio done, and after you've got the size on you need, drop the water out with some primmo or winny.

Good, truthful post Nelson.

 

[needsize]

Needsize and Nelson...
I am taking .25mg ed arimidex to prevent any gynecomastia on my cycle of test, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . I am not taking it to prevent water retention. I dont mind the water retention at all. How can you prevent gynecomastia without taking an anti e and not affect water retention?

nolva/tamoxifin, will stop the estrogen from attaching to receptors in the nipple area, but still leaves the estrogen in your body

 

[H_T_]

is Definition a product? link please?

 

[Nelson Montana]

is Definition a product? link please?

Here ya go bro: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=919&cat=0&page=1

 

[yankees5677]

Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /tamoxifin, will stop the estrogen from attaching to receptors in the nipple area, but still leaves the estrogen in your body

I am on deca so I cant take the nolvaldex. I could use clomid correct?

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

So then, for those using higher dosages of aromatizing drugs and/or are paranoid about gyno, would taking 5-10mg a dayof nolva be a decent preventative dose so you can keep the positive effect of the water gain?

Or just keep all ancillaries on hand and only use when needed.

To recap symptoms of gyno, I check once or twice every day with flexed chest and also arm raised for sensitivity increases or soreness, abnormal swelling and any lumps. Takes me about 10 seconds.

One last question, can you get gyno growth without much swelling or pain/tenderness?

 

[samoth]

I agree Nelson but in my case anything more than minor water retention causes pretty bad sleep apnea and increase in my (already marginal) BP.

I HAVE to keep the water off. I generally use light doses of lasix 40 mg ed which is a very safe dose and is pretty effective.

Hmm... is the sleep apnea effect common for people? I don't think I've heard that one before. Also, have you tried other diuretics and found they don't work as well as lasix or the lasix-type diuretics?