Don't Buy Rip Off Products!

[Nelson Montana]

Not sure why you got a headache from xantho, but some people get headaches from viagra so I guess it's possible.

Most of the libido supps you mentioned are in UNLEASHED.

Fennucreek is estrogenic.

B12 is no more absorbable if injected.

Green tea is suppresive to the thyroid.

(By the way, in case anyone is thinking I'm saying this because I don't sell this stuff -- I CAN! But I don't for these reasons.)

HMB?!?! Worthless.

Yes, IGF and Insulin are very dangerous. They're obviously not supplements.

 

[Singleton]

I wonder why the y make injectible b12 for humans?

I wonder why it works so well. I guess it could be placebo effect. But I don't know...

 

[Nelson Montana]

I wonder why the y make injectible b12 for humans?

I wonder why it works so well. I guess it could be placebo effect. But I don't know...

Injectable was made for people with severe enemia. You can't give them a bunch of iron but you can get B12 into the system immediately. But you don't retain any more of it since B12 is a water soluable vitamin, it's gone in day or so either way. Vitamins are well absorbed in the manner that they're intended to be taken -- through the digestive track -- with food -- and with the other B vits present. (All food containing B vits contain the complex. This is why if you isolate one or the other in extreme amounts it can cause problems , especially with B6).

Since anemia is so rare these days doctors hardly ever use injectable B12 anymore. And multiple like this... http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=427&cat=0&page=1 ...contains over 700X's the RDA. You can't possible use more than that.

Sorry, had to get that in.

 

[chilledandy]

Pot calling the kettle black me thinks!
Many of your supplements are full of nothing but marketing hype just like many of the companies you bash.
Magic herbs and blah blah blah.
Competitors copying your formula or you copying them, who cares...
to the average customer its good to have choice. It also reduces the cost and is therefore a good thing for everyone else. In this case, if where to go with your supplement or the other i'd choose yours as it is significantly cheaper, but there are numerous products on your proteinfactory website that are simply copies of other companies products. You didn't invent creatine did you?
I give my thumbs up to Omega who creates genuinely effective products and without the hype.

Well, I guess I see the steroid forum as the place where more topics are discussed whereas this one is strickly about supps. I've always recommended the ingredients I believe were worthwhile. Since I've put those ingredients into formulas it makes sense to let people know about them.

In this case, I was bringing attention to the fact that companies that copy are not to be trusted. It happens often but again, I'm going to be more aware of it when it's my product.

I've recommended other supps besides my own, (I think there are three treads going on AMP02 which I said is the best stim on the market) but as for supps that are weaker versions of what you can get for less at Protein Factory, or stuff that is flat out bogus, what can I say? As for good "tasting" protein shakes, it's subjective. So frankly, very often there isn't much to discuss.

I've been an activist in this field for over a decade and have spoken out against the supplement industry and have been quoted on TV, in newspapers, magazines and best selling books. I'm happy to answer any questions and respond to everyone who writes to me. But I really don't know how to jump into a conversation about ZMA or something without offering what my years of study have taught me. So...I use the forum with the most traffic (steroids) to discuss multiple topics, and occasionally come here to let people know about my products -- like so many others do. Sorry if it comes off too stong.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Pot calling the kettle black me thinks!
Many of your supplements are full of nothing but marketing hype just like many of the companies you bash.
Magic herbs and blah blah blah.
Competitors copying your formula or you copying them, who cares...
to the average customer its good to have choice. It also reduces the cost and is therefore a good thing for everyone else. In this case, if where to go with your supplement or the other i'd choose yours as it is significantly cheaper, but there are numerous products on your proteinfactory website that are simply copies of other companies products. You didn't invent creatine did you?
I give my thumbs up to Omega who creates genuinely effective products and without the hype.

These statments are groundless. The only reason you're saying them is because you want to spew anger. All of my products are originals. Of course, many of the ingredients were already available -- as is the case with Omega's products.

Knock offs are fine if they provide a better cost but you have to wonder about a company that steals an exact formula including the promo copy of another company! Geez, you have a problem with that?

All of my products are backed up with research data, studies, tests and real world evidence. Most everyone who has tried them has given them a good review. Let me guess -- you haven't used them. yet, you're confident in dissmissing them.

That not only is wrong, it's stupid.