Do any dudes here have great physiques that HAVEN'T juiced??

[Tweakle]

You won't find that many white guys who look truely jacked without using something, so mostly it's either deniers (which is cool, people don't need to admit to something illegal to strangers) or the true one in a million freakshow.

Look at the BBers from the early 50's, pre dbol, to see what's possible with the right parents. A white guy who's bigger, leaner and stronger than that and claims to be clean is pissing down your leg if he claims to be clean.

On elite there's not really many people who are big natural or otherwise anymore.. not since all the superkewl new features drove the guys who actually lifted weights away.

 

[Smurfy]

Sorry dude. I used to dabble. I will say though that you don't need much, contrary to what most people on the anabolic androgenic steroids board will say. Like, 100-150mg of test a week will do wonders, especially while dieting. Maybe not so mcuh when you're 20 though.

But it's hard overcoming the natural decline in the body's own hormone levels while dieting. The best way to do it is try to manipulate your body's own hormonal cycles - short bouts of deiting followed by refeeds (eating at maintenance) so that your levels of test/leptin/t3/etc. don't drop off too much and you don't end up in a starved state. That's my opinion nowadays and the natural guys I train with are trying to work that sort of thing (as am I but, to be honest, I won't make gains anymore unless I were to use AAS, but I'm fine with not growing or getting stronger anymore) - mostly it's diet manipulation which is a pain in the ass.

I've started trying things like sprinting and moving into other areas to keep me interested since I've got no plans to copmpete anymore any time soon - if I were to want to win and compete int eh upper levels I have to use drugs, the more the better, and there is no way around it. Welcome to competitive sports - get near the top and the reality of what distinguishes the top competitors is often a little disappointing. Not totally, but in many ways it very much is.

AAS plays a huge role in the physiques you see on television nowadays. Really, really a predominant role.

how's your hip flexor. also, I heard somewhere you almost died on the toilet recently.

 

[samoth]

In general, people that look good (by our definition) use steroids.

This isn't a rule, and there are exceptions, but regardless:

People that look good use steroids.

HTH

 

[KillahBee]

fuggin juicerz kill me

 

[Nathan]

how's your hip flexor. also, I heard somewhere you almost died on the toilet recently.

Still a little sore. I was watching tv (some action movie or music video or something stupid like that) and decided to jump and throw a knee at the air (it was giving me a dirty look) and threw it out again. This is genius-level stuff we are talking about here smurf. I still have the imagination/maturity-level of teh boy, only I lack the reflexes and smarts.

And yeah, the toilet is a dangerous place. Eyes open at all times.

What'd you cook for dinner tonight? Man, i so want to come over to your place for a meal sometime. Something tells me it'd be way worth it - you strike me as a good cook. To be fair a good chunk of your posts are about you cooking something for the fam so this isn't sherlock holmes-level detective work or anything. If anyone asks though, I'll totally say it was.

 

[KillahBee]

Still a little sore. I was watching tv (some action movie or music video or something stupid like that) and decided to jump and throw a knee at the air (it was giving me a dirty look) and threw it out again. This is genius-level stuff we are talking about here smurf. I still have the imagination/maturity-level of teh boy, only I lack the reflexes and smarts.

And yeah, the toilet is a dangerous place. Eyes open at all times.

What'd you cook for dinner tonight? Man, i so want to come over to your place for a meal sometime. Something tells me it'd be way worth it - you strike me as a good cook. To be fair a good chunk of your posts are about you cooking something for the fam so this isn't sherlock holmes-level detective work or anything. If anyone asks though, I'll totally say it was.

translation: "you're a fatty boombatty so you must be good at making food since you're so good at consuming it"

 

[Smurfy]

Still a little sore. I was watching tv (some action movie or music video or something stupid like that) and decided to jump and throw a knee at the air (it was giving me a dirty look) and threw it out again. This is genius-level stuff we are talking about here smurf. I still have the imagination/maturity-level of teh boy, only I lack the reflexes and smarts.

And yeah, the toilet is a dangerous place. Eyes open at all times.

What'd you cook for dinner tonight? Man, i so want to come over to your place for a meal sometime. Something tells me it'd be way worth it - you strike me as a good cook. To be fair a good chunk of your posts are about you cooking something for the fam so this isn't sherlock holmes-level detective work or anything. If anyone asks though, I'll totally say it was.

I am a good cook.

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news and all, but I hate to cook.

Tonight I zapped a frozen chicken tamales verde thingy in the microwave. Talk about skill and precision. I had to get that just right.

 

[Nathan]

I am a good cook.

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news and all, but I hate to cook.

Tonight I zapped a frozen chicken tamales verde thingy in the microwave. Talk about skill and precision. I had to get that just right.

KB is mean.

That's how I cook chicken too. Usually I don't even mind the taste but the last time I cooked it that way it was not so good. I still got it down but I was wishing it was BBQ.

 

[Gambino]

outside this website i hear that i am moderatly jacked, ripped, etc.
i don't stack up as great against the juicer crowd on here, but IRL i seem to make out all right
I'm def at a genetic max right now, unseen what the next step will be...

 

[wootoom]

ahhaahahahahahaha more pins than a bowling ball