Djeclipse's Intermediate 5x5 take 2.

[Tweakle]

Let's get back to talking about oats

I use a food scale which may be overkill for some but its a great way to know exactly what your portion sizes really are.

for 150g's carbs, on days when I train upper body - 2 meals with 50g's carbs from oats or rice (very small portions) pre training, then a PWO shake with 50's oats mixed into goo

on 300g carb days (leg day) - 6 x meals with 50g's carbs

on off days, each meal is now rougly 200 cals from protien, 200 cals from fat (2 scoops whey and 2 tablespoons flax for e.g.), 6 of those. Carbs are trace and only come from the broccoli I eat to keep things moving

Its really not hard to get under 300g's especially with a carb cutoff (no carbs after 4th meal)

 

[Protobuilder]

Breakfast 8:30-9:30
1 glass skim milk
1 hard boiled egg
2 hard boiled eggs whites only
1 serving oat bran cerial
1 slice of 100% whole wheat toast
1 apple
1 tablespoon honey to amke the oats go down.

Didn't U know mixing fats wit carbs = t3h F@t?

 

[djeclipse]

Didn't U know mixing fats wit carbs = t3h F@t?

Sorry, you lost me....

This is my new breakfast (hopefully no mroechanges)

1 cup skim milk
1/3 cup oat bran (no more honey)
1 whole egg
200ml simply egg whites

387 cal
8g fat
34g carbs
40g protein

 

[djeclipse]

Let's get back to talking about oats

I use a food scale which may be overkill for some but its a great way to know exactly what your portion sizes really are.

for 150g's carbs, on days when I train upper body - 2 meals with 50g's carbs from oats or rice (very small portions) pre training, then a PWO shake with 50's oats mixed into goo

on 300g carb days (leg day) - 6 x meals with 50g's carbs

on off days, each meal is now rougly 200 cals from protien, 200 cals from fat (2 scoops whey and 2 tablespoons flax for e.g.), 6 of those. Carbs are trace and only come from the broccoli I eat to keep things moving

Its really not hard to get under 300g's especially with a carb cutoff (no carbs after 4th meal)

The funny thing is I was actually thinking about getting some kind of scale for my food. I am anal like that, I measure out exactly one cup of milk, 1/3 cup oats etc. every time.

When you weight stuff like chicken, rice, it's done after cooking right?

No carbs after meal 4, what do you do for dinner to keep you form being so hungry? For me (for now at least0, if I don’t have some kind of bread, rice, potato for dinner I am still hungry.

 

[Protobuilder]

Fiberous veggies + protein = fullness, for me at least.

"t3h f@t" was a joke, of sorts.

 

[Tweakle]

Oh I get crazy hungry sometimes, and you feel like crap sometimes too on such low carbs but who said dieting was fun?

the broccoli keeps me feeling full to a degree and the fats ensure there's plenty of energy , you adapt.

I weigh after cooking - use fitday or another site to get the nutritional values if they're not on the packaging

 

[Cynical Simian]

digital scale = best investment ever

Weigh stuff before cooking (that's usually how it's listed on the package). You can get values for both cooked and raw on fitday, but your "8 oz." cooked chicken might differ from mine (or from that on the site or yours on a different day) depending on cooking method and duration (i.e. how much water evaporates).

 

[djeclipse]

The meat is one thing on fitday that I can't figure out. When it says 1 cup cooked chicken, that means one cup after being cooked or before?

 

[Cynical Simian]

If it says "cooked", that means after cooking. But like I said before, weigh foods raw.

 

[Introspective]

Here is my meal plan if you can get anything from it, it's pretty much maintenance for me
@ 225 pounds


12:00 AM
2 whole eggs
4 egg whites
Oats, 80g
Black coffee
(P) 36.2 (C) 49.32 (F) 19.2 (Cals) 604.4

2:00PM
Tuna, can 100g
Whey with water 30g
Omega 3-6-9 Suplement
Multi -Vits
Banana
(P) 59 (C) 41.1 (F) 10.5 (Cals) 489.5

4:00PM
1x Chicken breast
Brown rice 50g
Peas, sweetcorn, carots, green beans 50g
Strawberries 200g
(P) 32.3 (C) 54.3 (F) 3.45 (Cals) 553

6:00PM
Steak average 250g
Brown rice 50g
Peas, sweetcorn, carots, green beans 50g
Apple
(P) 74 (C) 53 (F) 16 (Cals) 567

8:00PM
Whey with water 30g
(P) 27.3 (C) 0 (F) 0 (Cals) 127

10:00PM
Salmon 100g
Red pepper 50g
Coliflower 50g
Broccoli 50g
(P) 28.15 (C) 4.9 (F) 14.1 (Cals) 335.5

12:00PM
Low fat cottage cheese 125g
Whey 30g with 1 pint semi skimmed milk
14g flax seed oil
(P) 43.1 (C) 6.75 (F) 22.95 (Cals) 242

Total.. (P) 308.65 (C) 209.37 (F) 85.59 (cals) 3019