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Disturbing trend amongst alot of young guys i know that got married.....

JavaGuru said:
Honey, it's called being rational and responsible. Women like you are raising "video game" fat ass's who aren't responsible enough to be left alone at eighteen. That's why your kids will live with you until they're thirty.I'm the youngest of six children and my parents realized that an intelligent, well adjusted, and responsible child can handle being alone at twelve. I then became a co-captain of my football team in high school as well as president of the computer club. I have a law degree and have taught myself six computer languages..I joined the army to put myself through school. Please challenge my parents judgement some more because you'll only look like an idiot.

not sure if you're being serious, but go to any foster home and you'll see plenty of kids aged 12 and over who would love to be nurtured. not necessarily saying that those kids won't survive if they don't get that nurturing, as many do, but a parent nurtures their child to improve the quality of the childs life. why have your children struggle just to prove a point? you are no more successful or adjusted than me for having left home at 12, but from the sounds of things i probably enjoyed my childhood a lot more.

not really sure what your point is.

that's the whole point of growing up......to experience different stages in life. why send a kid to the army when he should be playing ball in the park with other kids? i don't understand your logic. A kid can still learn responsibility and independance while being nurtured and encouraged........they will also probably learn stronger family values and the worth of family
 
Erzulie said:
oh i know about freedom, and i give them alot. My kids are really open with me, which I love, they trust me. I could never in a million years ask for any more.

I know they both will make bad decisions despite my guidence and i know that they have to learn from their own decisions.

Im a very practical mom, i don't expect them to be perfect at all... i love them no matter what

Thank you darlin, really, hearing those words means aot :rose:
Yes honey, you do your best and that's all you can do! I never questioned your motherhood...you just have unreasaonable expectations like all moms!
 
JavaGuru said:
Yes honey, you do your best and that's all you can do! I never questioned your motherhood...you just have unreasaonable expectations like all moms!

I expect more of myself than i do of my kids, i agree thats my fault

;)
 
vinylgroover said:
not sure if you're being serious, but go to any foster home and you'll see plenty of kids aged 12 and over who would love to be nurtured. not necessarily saying that those kids won't survive if they don't get that nurturing, as many do, but a parent nurtures their child to improve the quality of the childs life. why have your children struggle just to prove a point? you are no more successful or adjusted than me for having left home at 12, but from the sounds of things i probably enjoyed my childhood a lot more.

not really sure what your point is.

that's the whole point of growing up......to experience different stages in life. why send a kid to the army when he should be playing ball in the park with other kids? i don't understand your logic. A kid can still learn responsibility and independance while being nurtured and encouraged........they will also probably learn stronger family values and the worth of family


He's trying to tell us how great he is by putting down a child, talk about having some issues
 
vinylgroover said:
not sure if you're being serious, but go to any foster home and you'll see plenty of kids aged 12 and over who would love to be nurtured. not necessarily saying that those kids won't survive if they don't get that nurturing, as many do, but a parent nurtures their child to improve the quality of the childs life. why have your children struggle just to prove a point? you are no more successful or adjusted than me for having left home at 12, but from the sounds of things i probably enjoyed my childhood a lot more.

not really sure what your point is.

That's the whole point of growing up......to experience different stages in life. why send a kid to the army when he should be playing ball in the park with other kids? i don't understand your logic. A kid can still learn responsibility and independance while being nurtured and encouraged........they will also probably learn stronger family values and the worth of family
My point is that a child raised in a positie environment doesn't need constant supervision. I didn't even drink alcohol until my second semester of college! Hell, I probably never would have picked up the bottle had it been for desert storm. Actully, my roomie in college was a foster child and I don't see the point.
 
JavaGuru said:
My point is that a child raised in a positie environment doesn't need constant supervision.
Doesn't that assume that all children are the same and will respond the same way to a set stimulus? Isn't that navie?
 
EnderJE said:
Doesn't that assume that all children are the same and will respond the same way to a set stimulus? Isn't that navie?
I tend to agree with Java. To many kids have it to easy. There parents don't punish them the way they did back in the day and there is a growing lack of respect in todays kids because of that. My parents were very well off yet I still had to get a part time job in HS and earn my own money. When I was a kid and got an money from my parents. I had to actually work for it. Too many kids now are handed everything. I see kids in the grocery store or at the mall all the dam time having a fit and then there parent giving them what they want. I would have never in a million years had a fit in public with my parents.
 
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