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I used to run 45 miles per week and was a competitive 5K and half marathon runner.
for me it hindered me greatly.
it was the extra water weight, extra muscle, and the shin and calf pumps.
there is a guy who posted a thread who said he ran a very low dose of var and dbol i believe and he said it helped him. so its a very iffy situation, if you find the perfect dosage i suppose you can pull it off
you cannot be great at both, you have to choose either bodybuilding or endurance running. all that extra muscle is gonna weigh you down. heck as a triathlete I noticed when is started putting on muscle I started sinking like a rock when I would swim.
for me it hindered me greatly.
it was the extra water weight, extra muscle, and the shin and calf pumps.
there is a guy who posted a thread who said he ran a very low dose of var and dbol i believe and he said it helped him. so its a very iffy situation, if you find the perfect dosage i suppose you can pull it off
you cannot be great at both, you have to choose either bodybuilding or endurance running. all that extra muscle is gonna weigh you down. heck as a triathlete I noticed when is started putting on muscle I started sinking like a rock when I would swim.
billfred
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Yeah - I get this. I used to think I was a great distance runner but I was really just very light for my height. Now I have filled in and I suck.
Used to be a natural born sinker when I swam, now I am not so bad. For some reason a little fat really helps with swimming.
anabolicanimal1
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realistically you have to choos eone or the other..build mass or long distance running becuz long distance running and bodybuilding dont exactly mix well. It depends what you are taking that depends if it will hinder you and your doses, ie huge mg of dbol deca and bulking juice is going to slow you down. but then again You can still take juice that wont really effect your long distanc eruning maybe even give you a kick, winstrol, anavar, clen test prop wont do you to much harm another option is using HGH to grow lean muscle and stilll be an effectiv elong distant runner but if you wanted to build big mass Im afraid the running will become extremely difficult and it will have to come to an end.
well it will be ugly cause you haven't run in 2 months. what are you waiting for anyway?
i would run LSD. long slow distance everyday 4-5 miles and get yourself into shape.
if the pumps get bad i dont see you making it to mile 2... for me my calves looked like watermelons and my veins were bulging out.. i literally had to limp the last mile
then again I was on dbol which is the pump king so your pumps probably wont be that bad
the first time i ran on cycle i did it on the treadmill and started feeling the pumps and didn't know what was going on so kept running. finally i stopped and went to the ground in pain. i knew about the dreaded pumps but had no idea what they felt like.. best description is you feel like your calves are about to explode through your skin, like a bad cramp
It's for a fitness test I have to run, ill just leave it at that.
I didn't think about getting pumps while running, hopefully it doesn't happen, I've ran a lot of distance before and not given up, so I'm not worried about not finishing.
I was using dbol to kick start, but haven't taken it in almost 2 weeks, but more specifically in general how would 500mg test per week affect running?
I didn't think about getting pumps while running, hopefully it doesn't happen, I've ran a lot of distance before and not given up, so I'm not worried about not finishing.
I was using dbol to kick start, but haven't taken it in almost 2 weeks, but more specifically in general how would 500mg test per week affect running?
Back to this question. are steroids good for cardio? TRENBOLONE killed my cardio absolutly made me winded. low doses of others increased my endurence and speed in a 5k..... Bulk and water weight from steroids will make a runner less efficant. However the increase in red blood cells and glycogen from certain steroids can help. The key is get the goods out of juice without the bad. I have heard stacking equipoise with winny is good for distance runners. (cheap stack to) > I would love a difinitave answere from runner about steroid use in running. Its very interesting
Rodbuster
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i would say yes, not after your cycle. if you cycle, while your cycling your runs will be less, but you can still do cardio, do some HIIT training and otther exercises that keep your HR up while recruting all of your muscles. as long at you stretch properly and work hard when your cycle is finished you will overall be faster and stronger
load up on taurine and id limit carbs before the run.
ryno9000
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So glad to hear I am not the only one! I got off the treadmill at 4 minutes the other day. Super embarrassing.
I know I'm new here and I don't mean to step on any toes but I do have some experience with this, at least trying to use aas for endurance. My first cycle was Eq/sust and that gave me really bad calf pumps. This cycle that that I'm on is Eq/prop. I do eq at 400 every week with prop at 200. I use taurine in my pre-workout drink and I don't have any issues with calf pumps. I run almost everyday, and I lift after my runs. My endurance has increase and I could breath much easier. And the added strength is a bonus too.
ryno9000
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Supposedly it improves circulation so you don't get massive blood depositing in one area or something. It helps for sure, but it doesn't completely eliminate them.
Can you document your claim that AI will cause dehydration?
AI is not diuretic per se. They will limit the conversion of testosterone to estrogen, and through this action limit water and salt retention
The best drug for endurance is of cause EPO.
The natural way is altitude training, or even build an altitude chamber at home to sleep in.
If you want to use AAS you should use a low low dose of testosterone propionate e.g. 50 mg EOD. This is just to improve restitution after training. It will not build any significant muscle volume.
The natural way is altitude training, or even build an altitude chamber at home to sleep in.
If you want to use AAS you should use a low low dose of testosterone propionate e.g. 50 mg EOD. This is just to improve restitution after training. It will not build any significant muscle volume.
yeah I meant to say diuretic. if you are endurance running and retain water it makes it tough, and if you run a diuretic you run the risk of de-hydrating yourself... I think its lose/lose situation..
wouldn't your natural test levels be sufficient rather then suppressing it with 50mg ED?
and what happens when you cycle off and have to recover?
the sides of EPO are insane. have you tried it?
No have never tried EPO.
50 mg prop ED is 350 mg prop EW and that is equivalent to 500 mg test Enan EW
Prop has a active half life of approx 2 days. If you run 50 mg EOD you will have 75 mg active testosterone form your 2nd injection.
Normal daily testosterone production in healthy men are 4-7 mg ED! If you inject 50 mg EOD you will be fare beyond any natural production.
I have trained and ran 5 marathons on T-bol. I used a low dose of 20mg a day though. I am 181 pounds so I didn't need much. I also weight train and cycle long distances. I used it mostly for recovery but was happy with the extra endurance it provided. I have been able to keep most of my strength gains and endurance.
I did not experience any calf or back pumps.
I did not experience any calf or back pumps.
Endurance has more to do with VO2 max, which has very little to do with the steroids taken. Your oxygen uptake will probably remain the same during PCT as long as you keep up your training.
You may loose some of your muscle during PCT, but weight is not a good thing for a distance runner. Your endurance may even be better after pct than during your cycle.
^^^ more concerned about lower testosterone levels during the PCT and until the HPTA starts working again afterwards. don't see how it wouldn't slow you down having low T... you are going from an anabolic and androgenic state, to a lower then normal state. then going back to equilibrium so a loss of strength and speed has to be necessary
would love for someone to run AAS who is a 5K or half marathon athlete and document their experience with links to their race times as proof that AAS cycles made them faster. as long as they were already a competitive runner and not starting out. I will give them 5M karma if they put up a full log.
would love for someone to run AAS who is a 5K or half marathon athlete and document their experience with links to their race times as proof that AAS cycles made them faster. as long as they were already a competitive runner and not starting out. I will give them 5M karma if they put up a full log.
I think the point you made about them already being a well trained runner is the difference. A lot of people will supplement aas to get them to a certain point perhaps but once you are at the top of your game I cant see it helping much.
I do know cyclist and triathletes who cycle on and off throughout their season and training. I do think its more for recovery and just to feel good. I know they are not big dosages either. Ive heard test base with some deca and eq. These guys were not looking to get bigger just stronger and faster. Not sure if it was the best route for them but they did it.
I do know cyclist and triathletes who cycle on and off throughout their season and training. I do think its more for recovery and just to feel good. I know they are not big dosages either. Ive heard test base with some deca and eq. These guys were not looking to get bigger just stronger and faster. Not sure if it was the best route for them but they did it.
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