are you debating that deca can heal injuries? if so then that is false, it can raise collagen synthesis and such but if you are truly injuried then all it will do is aid in the healing process, but it won't be the cause of it
You just said it urself deca can aid the curing process.... By lubricating it protects joints and prevents more damage. You ever run deca yourself and have joint problems? I have, so im talking from experience not wikopidia or a post i read earlier... I saw a thread on this subject it was several pages long i didnt even bother looking in it but im sure theres plenty of debate in there for you
The last instance was a nagging shoulder injury. I injured it reaching back from the front seat of my SUV to pick up a suit case. A dumb move...I knew as soon as I started to lift it was going to go very bad. It did. For weeks I could not even lift my elbow more then a few inches from my side. Doctor prescribed Nabumetone and told me no lifting and even suggested lifting might be something I should consider not appropriate for a man of my age! (Geeze...that was a real buzz-kill.)
Nabumetone is a NSAID and did help relieve some of the pain but I know what works so I did a 16 week cycle of test, deca, HCG and dex. I did everything in the gym that did not stress my shoulder. Much of this was trial and error and first but I figured it out. At 6 weeks in the pain started to dramatically diminish. I found that light shoulder movements seemed to help with the pain. 10 weeks in and there was no pain and my strength start to go up. It was not the test. How do I know? Experience with test only cycles! I did my first cycle (dbol only...20 mg ED...lol) in 1982.
I do follow time on = time off and so I know my shoulder is 100%healed. I think it has a lot to do with the type and extent of the injury. Deca is no miricle cure-all. I think a big part of it is that it facilitates the healing process and perhaps even expidites it.
That is one of several experiences I have with healing using deca as an aid to the process.
More general, it also makes me feel years younger in terms of over-all pain free joints.
i'm not debating that it can't be used to help the process along. i'm saying that deca allows for a more conducive environment for the healing process to take place and the deca itself only helps by proxy (i.e. increased red blood cells, lubricated joints, increased collagen, etc...). if you're not actively trying to recover an injury with proper physical therapy (as mentioned above) then IMO it will not be as beneficial as one might think. as far as i know, deca wasn't made to help with joint repair, but it's main purpose was and is to build mass and strength.
my workout partner on mondays has used deca and test at the same time and with equal doses to try and recover injuries before and he has said many times that while on it he feels like a million bucks but as soon as he comes off, the benefits fade and the pain comes back (not as bad as before but it still comes back nonetheless) hence the reason why i say that deca doesn't "cure" an injury only conceals it.
however as phat1 mentioned before certain peptides will be taking the place of deca in the recovery aspect as soon as they pick up steam. i for one would be very interested in seeing a recovery plan including these peptides side by side with deca and test along with the proper physical therapy (not pushing heavy weights around). THAT would be ideal for recovery imo.
Only morons think that to be honest. It's by far the most commonly used anabolic roid around my city and the most popular one by far. Most sold easily. In competitive sports you always hear cheaters either pissing deca or winny. Not dbol, adrol, test, etc. Test and deca to me are the most commonly used roids or popular roids around here to my knowledge.
The effects of deca are fast and dramatic. The problem is bloat and libido loss, which to me, sucks ass. There's a chpater in my book called. "Is Deca Dead? "
If you love it, I ain't gonna try and convince you otherwise. I just don't get why people complain about the sides. If that's the case, don't use it! It's not like there aren't other options.
The effects of deca are fast and dramatic. The problem is bloat and libido loss, which to me, sucks ass. There's a chpater in my book called. "Is Deca Dead? "
If you love it, I ain't gonna try and convince you otherwise. I just don't get why people complain about the sides. If that's the case, don't use it! It's not like there aren't other options.
In my opinion the good outweighs the bad side effects when using deca.
Makes you feel strong, gives you very decent/satisfying gains if you use it properly, and the cut up muscle it gives you is nice too.
It fucks up your sex life a bit with the limp dick it can sometimes give you but there's a solution for that called test. Test and deca is one of the best cycles.