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Deadlift Question

musclemom

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Okay, just deadlifted, this afternoon, for the first time since I can't remember when, literally, I've been on a layoff with tendinitis, that's besides the point ...

So now I got stupid legs ... you know, you try to go downstairs and realize that your knees don't bend so good.

What causes that? It didn't lift super heavy or anything, just did a weight I find quite comfortable to handle 5 x 5. My legs are sore or anything just uh, stupid.

:lmao:
 
Probably recruited some motor units that had not been activated much in a while. Even light deads require the activation a large amount of motor units.
 
Guinness5.0 said:
Probably recruited some motor units that had not been activated much in a while. Even light deads require the activation a large amount of motor units.
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Why thank you darlin! I'm k'd out temporarily but will hit you when I recharge. Funny how activating those dormant motor units just locks you up entirely :lmao:

I love deadlifts ;) I really do. Hate them when I'm doing them, but love what they do to my entire body.
 
s8nlilhlpr said:
Hey if your not walking funny after squats/deads then you aren't doin' em right!
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The "knees don't bend" walk ... makes my husband laugh like hell :lmao:
 
The guy I work with is pretty big, though I haven't seen him train I know he goes every other day at least. I can always tell which workout he does the night before, depending on if he bends over to pick up the case, or squats down.
 
:wavey: Good to see you, musclemom!

You're going to be sore tomorrow. :) Be sure to rub it in my face if I'm wrong! :lmao:
 
Always ease yourself slowly back into your workouts or fresh exercises. ;)

Bignate is probably on the money with your fatigued hamstrings.
 
I'm finding more and more that I want to shorten my posts to answer questions like this.

What causes it? Stuff.

Why does this happen? 'cause.

I'd drive people mad if you guys weren't here to ruin it and actually help them. :mad:
 
Also, the cns is probably excited due to the heavy MU recruitment (aside from the deceleration of the hams). Did you have trouble going to sleep that night?
 
What exactly is a motor unit? Also its wierd that you mention trouble sleeping. Sometimes after very intense workouts I have trouble sleeping at night.
 
musclemom said:
Okay, just deadlifted, this afternoon, for the first time since I can't remember when, literally, I've been on a layoff with tendinitis, that's besides the point ...

So now I got stupid legs ... you know, you try to go downstairs and realize that your knees don't bend so good.

What causes that? It didn't lift super heavy or anything, just did a weight I find quite comfortable to handle 5 x 5. My legs are sore or anything just uh, stupid.

:lmao:
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Musclemom how did you feel today (Monday)? The nice thing about soreness from compound lifts is the way it can direct you to the weak points. Your body should give you a good deal of valuable information over the next 24-48 hours. Take notes and make the most of it!
 
When you are heavy training, the central nervous system takes a hit and needs to recover, which is basically why it is hard to go to sleep. It is still excited. Why this happens is that more muscle fibers and motor units are recruited and the central nervous system is responsible for it.
Check out the link by anthrax to understand it a little more. If you still have questions feel free to ask.
 
I got a huge question for everyone. Why do the majority of people do stiff leg dead lifts over the old fashion stick-your-butt-out kind? In my biased opinion (biased becuase I do them the old fashion way) I think stiff leg dead lifts are easier. I may be wrong but when you do them the old fashion way there is so much more that is involved instead of just grab and pull. You have to sit-down, stick your ass out, stand up and pull at the same time. When you just do them stiff legged its just looks like your cheating yourself. Give me some opinions on this, thanks.
 
personally, i do them "old fashioned" as well. I do not remember the name for the stiff-leg, but I see it focusing more just on lower back and gluts, where as the "old fashioned" works your whole lower back, gluts, hammies, and calves a bit, as well as forearms(if you don't use the straps or smith machine). Would you wanna call it cheating yourself? I wouldn't go that far, but the old fashioned form certainly does work more. I find that the stiff-legged form will leave the lifter more vulnerable to injuries as well.
 
attika888 said:
I find that the stiff-legged form will leave the lifter more vulnerable to injuries as well.
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Would you elaborate on this a little more? I enjoy both lifts and feel they both have their benefits. I'm going to throw stiff-legs into my next training cycle and I'm curious about your theory as to why they are more dangerous.
 
xblitz44x said:
Would you elaborate on this a little more? I enjoy both lifts and feel they both have their benefits. I'm going to throw stiff-legs into my next training cycle and I'm curious about your theory as to why they are more dangerous.
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To me, it comes down to form. Can you do as much weight stiff leg as you can "old fashioned"? The reason I say this is b/c I cannot do close to as much stiff leg as I can with "old fashioned". And if I tried I would hurt myself. I almost find stiff leg DLs to be a subclass of DLs.(in my experience)
 
yea i was doing mine Stiff Legged, then my freidn walked by and showed me how to do them the "original" way and they becaome so much fuckin harder. Actually have to drive through your heels the old school way.

I basically get nice and low ass out and pull up, and the bar usually scratches the shit out of my shins. Gotta love it.
 
ok. lets just clear up that "old fashioned" is called a conventional style deadlift. everything else is an offshoot of this lift.
 
So it isn't just me when I think/say the old school way is harder? I get so tired of seeing guys do more than me with stiff legged dead lifts and I'm doing the normal way. I always wondered what would happen if I told/asked them to take the weight on there and try it the normal way. I bet they couldn't hardly get it off the ground. I'd ask them to but there the type of people who think there hot shit and I seem to agree with the shit part just more a steaming pile of shit instead of just hot shit.
 
Invective aside, most people don't have the reach or flexibility to deload the bar on the floor between reps while repping SLDL (Stiff-Legged Deadlift). Equally, most people can conventional deadlift a lot more weight than they can SLDL, mostly due to strain on the lower back. You might be describing RDL, though, (Romanian Deadlift) which is bent-legged but the bar doesn't go all the way to the ground. Most people can use more weight in the RDL than in a conventional DL.
 
blut wump said:
Invective aside, most people don't have the reach or flexibility to deload the bar on the floor between reps while repping SLDL (Stiff-Legged Deadlift). Equally, most people can conventional deadlift a lot more weight than they can SLDL, mostly due to strain on the lower back. You might be describing RDL, though, (Romanian Deadlift) which is bent-legged but the bar doesn't go all the way to the ground. Most people can use more weight in the RDL than in a conventional DL.
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Excellent desccriptions. I wondered also when I read some questions if people weren't thinking you would do 'one or the other'...SLDL vs DL (conventional, sumo, romanian).

I don't know about others, but I have always treated and thought of them as two seperate exercises. I use SLDL to work my hamstrings when I am focusing on that bodypart and DL's...well - they just are done to improve the movement, help with squat and work the posterior chain? My thinking may be wrong in the seperation of the two in my mind, but that's how I work with them.
 
Well, compared with the DL, it's a partial movement with a stretch reflex assist and an ill-defined bottom point. The DL might have a benefit if someone has huge acceleration from the floor otherwise the RDL should be higher. The RDL is often done starting from the pins to keep the bar off the floor.
 
I don't do romanian deadlifts, but I've been told olympic lifters do RDL because they are less stressful on the body. That's enough reason for me to do conventional deads.
 
liegelord said:
I don't do romanian deadlifts, but I've been told olympic lifters do RDL because they are less stressful on the body. That's enough reason for me to do conventional deads.
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Ahh, migrated from the HST forums, eh liege?

RDLs are good when you don't need the drain of deadlifts on your body, I'd say. They're a good alternative. I feel them much more in my hamstrings as well.

Deadlifts are good too. It all depends on your situation.
 
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