Dead lift muscle pull

[ceo]

I am a pro BB and I train with the best in the business and guess what? You'll rarely if ever see pros do deads because they don't want to risk their careers. It's just not worth it.

You'd better tell that to your pro buddies doing deads here:

Dorian pulled over 700 too.

I'd say these guys all had pretty great careers. Johnnie Jackson still does deads, and he's got a pretty promising BB'ing career still ahead of him.

I think the pros you'll see deadlifting are the ones with the biggest backs. The thickest pros on stage built those big bodies with lifts like deads (squats, bench, etc.). Once they GET those big physiques some of them may not deadlift as much or as often, but you can bet your ass they got big doing deads.

So, if you never want to be as big as you could possbily be...don't do deads. If you want to get as big as you possibly can, learn how to do deads properly.

 

[IronmanLV]

You'd better tell that to your pro buddies doing deads here:

Dorian pulled over 700 too.

I'd say these guys all had pretty great careers. Johnnie Jackson still does deads, and he's got a pretty promising BB'ing career still ahead of him.

I think the pros you'll see deadlifting are the ones with the biggest backs. The thickest pros on stage built those big bodies with lifts like deads (squats, bench, etc.). Once they GET those big physiques some of them may not deadlift as much or as often, but you can bet your ass they got big doing deads.

So, if you never want to be as big as you could possbily be...don't do deads. If you want to get as big as you possibly can, learn how to do deads properly.

I didn't say no one does them. I said those who do risk their careers.

BTW...My stats = 36 yrs lifting, 5' 9", 265, 8% body fat off season, in contest shape around 240, 4% body fat, 15 yrs IFBB Pro, several titles that I can't reveal because I can't reveal my ID for legal reasons on here but if you've been around you know who I am. I don't think I need to worry too much about my size and I don't do deads.

 

[djeclipse]

I am a pro BB and I train with the best in the business and guess what? You'll rarely if ever see pros do deads because they don't want to risk their careers. It's just not worth it. Now powerlifting, different story. However once you herniate the lumbar disks you will never be the same lifter ever again. If you have the surgery to correct it you're fucked and the same if you don't. Either way your lifting days are over. But If you like em Bro keep on doing them if you think it's worth the potential of being a cripple. When you can't lift in a few yrs because of back injuries remember you've been warned.

You're kidding right?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=W1KD7cGRDDc

I guess Ronnie Coleman doesn't know what he's doing.

Good thing we have you to tell us how the "pro's" train..... You better send a message to Ronnie before he hurts himself and ruins his career as a pro...

Learn to lift properly and you won't have to worry about hurting yourself durring a lift

 

[djeclipse]

You'd better tell that to your pro buddies doing deads here:

Dorian pulled over 700 too.

I'd say these guys all had pretty great careers. Johnnie Jackson still does deads, and he's got a pretty promising BB'ing career still ahead of him.

I think the pros you'll see deadlifting are the ones with the biggest backs. The thickest pros on stage built those big bodies with lifts like deads (squats, bench, etc.). Once they GET those big physiques some of them may not deadlift as much or as often, but you can bet your ass they got big doing deads.

So, if you never want to be as big as you could possbily be...don't do deads. If you want to get as big as you possibly can, learn how to do deads properly.

oops, looks like you beat me to it. lol

As you said, Squats and Deads are the 2 best lifts for putting on mass/ muscle.

 

[IronmanLV]

You're kidding right?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=W1KD7cGRDDc

I guess Ronnie Coleman doesn't know what he's doing.

Good thing we have you to tell us how the "pro's" train..... You better send a message to Ronnie before he hurts himself and ruins his career as a pro...

Learn to lift properly and you won't have to worry about hurting yourself durring a lift

I have my pro card bro, where's yours?

 

[djeclipse]

I have my pro card bro, where's yours?

Good for you.

But in that means nothing to me, and still doesn't change the fact that you're clueless when it comes to this subject.

Are you going to tell Coleman, Arnold, Yates that they shouldn't be dead lifting. I'd love to see that. Please make a vid and post it on youtube, we could all use a good laugh.

EDIT: This is the internet, anyone can say they have their pro card... heck, I have one too. Saying you have your "pro card" or even having your pro card still doesn't validate what you are saying.

You sound like the tool at the GNC store that told me that I needed a PWO shake right after my W/O, otherwise I won't grow and I just wasted my time lifting. After I laughed at him he tried to validate what he was saying by telling me "I'm a body builder, I have competed, so I know what I'm talking about. Made me laugh even more.

 

[ceo]

I didn't say no one does them. I said those who do risk their careers.

BTW...My stats = 36 yrs lifting, 5' 9", 265, 8% body fat off season, in contest shape around 240, 4% body fat, 15 yrs IFBB Pro, several titles that I can't reveal because I can't reveal my ID for legal reasons on here but if you've been around you know who I am. I don't think I need to worry too much about my size and I don't do deads.

So you're telling me you NEVER did deads ever?

What I'm saying is that these pro's who, "rarely if ever do deads because they don't want to risk their careers," probably did a LOT of deads when they started training and for a number of years after that. I challenge you to find me a 250+ lb. mass monster on stage who never did a heavy dead. You may find some genetic freak like Paul Dillet or Flex or Lee Priest who can get huge just walking to the store and mowing their lawn every sunday...but I bet they even did a few deads in their careers.

Just think...if you'd done more deads maybe you'd be 265 on stage instead of 240!!!!!!!!!!!!@#! lol

 

[IronmanLV]

So you're telling me you NEVER did deads ever?

What I'm saying is that these pro's who, "rarely if ever do deads because they don't want to risk their careers," probably did a LOT of deads when they started training and for a number of years after that. I challenge you to find me a 250+ lb. mass monster on stage who never did a heavy dead. You may find some genetic freak like Paul Dillet or Flex or Lee Priest who can get huge just walking to the store and mowing their lawn every sunday...but I bet they even did a few deads in their careers.

Just think...if you'd done more deads maybe you'd be 265 on stage instead of 240!!!!!!!!!!!!@#! lol

Trust me dude, I've done deads and lots of them before I damn near crippled myself. Thus the voice of experience. There are other compound lifts that will give you the same overall benefits like Squats, Benches, Chins, etc which aren't as dangerous as deads that give your body the same kind of CNS stimulation without the potential danger of crippling yourself. I feel the same way with Behind the Neck Presses too.

As far as size goes I bet I can match anyone on this site height, weight and body fat, etc.

And to djeclipse...God I wish I could reveal my identity, but you're just not worth it. I bet if you knew who you were fucking with you might have a little more respect. I'm not the kid at GNC for sure, lol. Then again you may be one of those Internet tough guys and if that's the case you're too tough to respect anyone or anything.

My final thoughts on this thread are opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and some assholes have opinions. Think about it,

 

[SouthernLord]

I am a pro BB and I train with the best in the business and guess what? You'll rarely if ever see pros do deads because they don't want to risk their careers. It's just not worth it. Now powerlifting, different story. However once you herniate the lumbar disks you will never be the same lifter ever again. If you have the surgery to correct it you're fucked and the same if you don't. Either way your lifting days are over. But If you like em Bro keep on doing them if you think it's worth the potential of being a cripple. When you can't lift in a few yrs because of back injuries remember you've been warned.

Thanks
Some impressionable young lad is going to read this and swear off deads because they are dangerous. He will forever be indebted to your for his sub-par back development. lol.

 

[ceo]

Trust me dude, I've done deads and lots of them before I damn near crippled myself. Thus the voice of experience. There are other compound lifts that will give you the same overall benefits like Squats, Benches, Chins, etc which aren't as dangerous as deads that give your body the same kind of CNS stimulation without the potential danger of crippling yourself. I feel the same way with Behind the Neck Presses too.

As far as size goes I bet I can match anyone on this site height, weight and body fat, etc.

And to djeclipse...God I wish I could reveal my identity, but you're just not worth it. I bet if you knew who you were fucking with you might have a little more respect. I'm not the kid at GNC for sure, lol. Then again you may be one of those Internet tough guys and if that's the case you're too tough to respect anyone or anything.

My final thoughts on this thread are opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and some assholes have opinions. Think about it,

There you go! I bet you got huge doing deads and other compound lifts...not with isolation movements like DB concentration curls and kickbacks! That's my point.

Some kids new to BB'ing will pick up M&F and read those routines the pros do and think that's how they will get huge! But, it ain't!!! You and I both know this. Fact is, if you had never done a DL in your life you wouldn't be 240 @ 4% on stage! I think the best thing anyone who's new to this and wants to be a BB'er can do is to train with and like a PL'er for at least a few years to get some good size before training like a BB'er.

I think the advice to give here is to learn how to do these great size building movements properly, and use them to build a massive physique, so that you can get to a point where you rarely if ever have to do them to maintain that physique. When you sculpt a statue, you don't start out with a tiny marble, you get the biggest damn rock you can find and start chiseling it down.

By the way, I respect your stats and experience. I was fucking with you about the doing deads and you'd be 265 on stage...I hope you got that!