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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

well she has never tried NYC, but before this thermoxin would take a vivarin(200mgs caffine) before the workout, but stopped them to try thermoxin.

she has done a couple DNP cycles in the past at 400mgs a day, no problem but heat.

i appricate the concern.
 
Anybody into really sweatty sex??

I finaly got my bottle today(mail lady woke me up with the doorbell). Anyway, I decided to go ahead and pop a cap and go back to bed (approx 2:30pm). I got up at 5:00pm and went strait to the garage for my w/o. I got kinda pissed b/c I didn't get any increased sweating. Well wife got home around 6pm and since the kids were not home I decided to try to intice my wife into fullilling her wifely duties. To make a long story short(actually it wasn't very long but I'll act like it was) when we were finished she asked my what was wrong with me. I was literaly dripping wet from head to toe. I told her she was just that good. I'll I can figure is that I was working out a little harder with her than with the weights but this stuff will make you sweat. I just popped cap # 2 at work (1245am) hoping it will keep me awake at work.
 
just a question, how come theres a varying time of when t-rex hits you ? is there anyway of speeding up the process to match your workout time or does it vary from person to person ?
 
Took one Thermorexin twice yesterday, and thrice today. No headaches to speak of, workouts are awesome, pants are noticeably looser already (undoubtedly due to dropping some water), and my appetite has dwindled to nothingness even now, 5 hours after my last pill. I'd compare it to Phentermine in terms of appetite supression, except without the moodiness coming down. I really, really like the fact that it doesn't wire me out of my skull. I think I'll stay with this dose - no reason to tamper with perfection.
 
So much for this keeping me awake at work. 5:30am and my boss just kicked my chair and woke me up. I guess I'll try 2 pill tomorrow. I can't tell if its hot as ballsack in here or if its just me.
 
just finished my morning cardio on an empty stomach with 1 cap t-rex ... it seems that my endurance has increased. i have noticed that i did not tire that easily compared to my cardio sessions before.

great product AF ! will pop the 2nd cap later :P
 
Been on since friday 1 pil..did nothing 2 pills since monday i do feel it but i have a few quick questions?

1. can i only take in monday - friday and lay off on the weekends?

2. am i a freak because my appetite has been out of control. i haven't shoved this much food in my face in a LONG time? no appetite suppresion whatsoever. only taken rala and yohimburn with this

thanks
 
fresh said:
Been on since friday 1 pil..did nothing 2 pills since monday i do feel it but i have a few quick questions?

1. can i only take in monday - friday and lay off on the weekends?
yes

2. am i a freak because my appetite has been out of control. i haven't shoved this much food in my face in a LONG time? no appetite suppresion whatsoever. only taken rala and yohimburn with this
are you taking with food? and yes that is a uncommon reaction.. though perhaps try adjusting your r-ala intake

thanks
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Bump for scale numbers, T-Rex+Clen is making me furnace, down 6 pounds in 10 days since I began using it. (Probably would have been more but my diet has been garbage)
 
ulter said:


Yes I work for AF and occasionally I do get paid for it.
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Hey, I won't some percentage of the profits thrown my way....... :)

J/K

Fonz. :)
 
Ulter or Macro: How would you say that Thermorexin compares to DNP, whether it be positive results and/or negative side effects? Or do you consider them to be two different "beasts"?
 
thanks guys. ! took 2 caps today and felt great.

will take up to 3 caps tomorrow, 2 b4 workout and 1 in the afternoon :p
 
HULKSTER said:
Ulter or Macro: How would you say that Thermorexin compares to DNP, whether it be positive results and/or negative side effects? Or do you consider them to be two different "beasts"?
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Sure they are completely different animals. The similarity is in the way they both make you generate heat when you eat carbs and use either one. DNP at a low dose.
 
im on my third day now and im up too three a day i do feel it but it dies after like 2 hours so i take it before i work out too im gettin the sweats and not hungry as much which in wierd because im always hungry and im still waiting for the water to drop later gym time
 
macrophage69alpha said:
different beasts.. though some may feel the thermogenic effect to be relatively comparable.. mechanism is different
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Sorry.

Absolutely not, and have to completely disagree here.

200mg crystal DNP in the AM (WHich you barely notice if you weigh 180-1200lbs), can help you shed 2-3lbs of fat with no real change in diet or excercise/week.

I have done this dozens of times.

Sorry folks...DNP is still King.(AND NO Usnic Acid is SHIT. It is a PROVEN terratogen by the AMES test...whch it failed. DNP on the other hand did not fail the AMES test)

DNP is followed by thermorexin because it targets numerous facets of fat-loss at the same time and is ephedrine-free. And to my suprrise, cuts hunger better than NYC or a a generic/commercial ECA, with no jitters.( I hate that...specially writing on a keyboard...lol)

So, if you re-word your previous phraselogy in your prior post that I quoted. to the best commercially and legally available fat burner in the market today, then, you'd be in complete correctness.

Fonz
 
macrophage69alpha said:
operative word is "feel"...
no indication that metabolic increase was comparable (or one might say with respect to DNP metabolic innefficiency)
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Feel?

Ok...I'll take my morning temps...lets see how it fares.

This should be interesting.

My next study is a comparison of the thermogenic ability of GLA and Green Tea and thermorexin and NYC.


GLA in a 2g Bolus.
Green Tea in a 2g Bolus(800mg ECGC's)
Thermorexin(2)
NYC(2)

Keep BG and Temp measuremets for 4 hours after ingestion.

Cool.......got myself another project..god I was getting bored. :)
Fonz
 
would it be okay to use betalean hp (ephedra free version) along with my t-rex ?

Betalean-HP
Citrus aurantium (6% synephrine) 300 mg

Green Tea Leaf Extract 300 mg (35% catechins, 10%EGCG, 9% caffeine)

Garcinia cambogia (50% HCA) 250 mg

Caffeine 150 mg

Grapefruit extract (99.9% naringin) 50 mg

Cayenne 15 mg

what do u think ? i have a couple of bottles of these lying around (from my friend who stopped taking them) and i was thinking of substituting it for green tea ...

Fonz, how many green tea bags is equivalent to your dosing of green tea ? thanks !
 
Just one question. When will thermorexin be available in your european store? Everybody gets to play with the latest toy but us :(
 
Ripe1 said:
Just one question. When will thermorexin be available in your european store? Everybody gets to play with the latest toy but us :(
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you could ask them to ship it for you via UPS. thats what i sometimes do if i order stuff thats not available in the AF EU store.

we recently had shipped in t-rex, a couple of bottles of glucorell with biotin, and a bottle of biotin for the glucorell we have that doesnt have biotin yet.

shipping weight was around 2-3lbs i think ... cost around $US67. i ordered it friday and it arrived here in the UK around tuesday :p

really great service!
 
XzRzX said:
would it be okay to use betalean hp (ephedra free version) along with my t-rex ?

Betalean-HP
Citrus aurantium (6% synephrine) 300 mg

Green Tea Leaf Extract 300 mg (35% catechins, 10%EGCG, 9% caffeine)

Garcinia cambogia (50% HCA) 250 mg

Caffeine 150 mg

Grapefruit extract (99.9% naringin) 50 mg

Cayenne 15 mg

what do u think ? i have a couple of bottles of these lying around (from my friend who stopped taking them) and i was thinking of substituting it for green tea ...

Fonz, how many green tea bags is equivalent to your dosing of green tea ? thanks !
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No.

#1 You have the synephrine extract version in the Beta-Lean.

You need the Synephrine HCL version like in the Thermorexin.

This is like comparing 8% Ma-Huang Extract(25mg EPH) to 25mg Pure ephedrine HCL pills. There is no comparison. the pharm grade is much more powerful.

#2 Then 300mg Green tea ONLY 10% ECGC's? Thats garbage. The study done on people gave then a minimum of 90mg ECGC's 3X/day for a total of 270mg ECGC's. Yours only has 30mg ECGC's.

#3 HCA is another supplement were the quantity is just NOT sufficient. TYou need close to 5-7g TOTAL HCA(10-14g 50% extract Garcinia Cambogia to see an effect.)

#4. Caffein is fine.

#5. Naringin is fine as well.

#6 15mg Cayenne? Standardized for how many HTU's(Heat units). You need at least 100mg Cayenne standardized to 80-120 000 HTU's to see a thermogenic effect.

My recommendation? Feed the Beta-HP to your neighbours dog.

EAS sucks, and will always suck with its inferior products.

Fonz
 
supernav said:
Hey Fonz (get it? "heeeyyy", get it, FONZ, get it?), post your *ultimate* fat-burning stack combo again for the average male who wants to get ripped. I saw you mentioned it once.

-= nav =-
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OK... :) This is for NON-AAS users though.

Some legal, some grey area...but I have not included scheduled items.

1 Green Tea: 2g/day 800mg ECGC's/day
2. R-ALA: 1000-2000mg/day
3. GLA at 2g before bed.
4. AlCar at 4-5g oral Before 2PM...it keeps you awake.
5. Taurine(Late PM) w/ milk: 10g
7. Biotin: 6mg/day(2mg w/ each R-ALA meal)
8. Guggulsterones: 120mg/day(Great for mild acne)
9. CLA at 5g 3X/day w/ your meals. Do not take with GLA.
10. 2ml P7 at night(PM) w/ the taurine.

Thats it folks.

The Green Tea, Guggulsterones, and GLA will also improve you CHol profiles and lipid profiles btw. As will the ALCar improve the oxygen consumption capacity of your heart along with R-ALA(This is good...more aerobic energy to excercise).

Then there's the fat-burners:

10. T3 at 25mcgs/day(Will put your thyroid in the normal high range...which is good)
11. Thermorexin(4/day)
12. NYC(4/day)
13. Yoh DF(A2 problem areas)

Do the following:

Rotate Thermorexin for 2 weeks(4-6 tabs)/day+Yoh DF, then followed by NYC(If you have any left 4-6 tabs/day......or Clen if no NYC at 80-120mcg/day) for another 2 weeks and repeat.

Hope that helps.

Fonz
 
supernav said:
Green Tea:

Okay, i assume you'er talking the normal green tea bags you find at your local supermarket. not some sort of pill.
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I'm using the bags as well....two bags 3 x day. Good luck finding out how many ECGC's your getting.....my box only says 190mg antioxidant per serving.

supernav said:
Where do you get T3.

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It's illegal bro.
 
i eat with my thermo. and am still hungary as a son of a bitch.

morning protein shake 7am...50gP/20gC/15gF

stuffing my face with string cheese and another thermo at 9 am. cant wait for lunch at noon
 
Fonz said:


No.

#1 You have the synephrine extract version in the Beta-Lean.

You need the Synephrine HCL version like in the Thermorexin.

This is like comparing 8% Ma-Huang Extract(25mg EPH) to 25mg Pure ephedrine HCL pills. There is no comparison. the pharm grade is much more powerful.

#2 Then 300mg Green tea ONLY 10% ECGC's? Thats garbage. The study done on people gave then a minimum of 90mg ECGC's 3X/day for a total of 270mg ECGC's. Yours only has 30mg ECGC's.

#3 HCA is another supplement were the quantity is just NOT sufficient. TYou need close to 5-7g TOTAL HCA(10-14g 50% extract Garcinia Cambogia to see an effect.)

#4. Caffein is fine.

#5. Naringin is fine as well.

#6 15mg Cayenne? Standardized for how many HTU's(Heat units). You need at least 100mg Cayenne standardized to 80-120 000 HTU's to see a thermogenic effect.

My recommendation? Feed the Beta-HP to your neighbours dog.

EAS sucks, and will always suck with its inferior products.

Fonz
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thanks for the feedback fonz ... might as well source out some cheap GT caps here in the UK ...
 
OK..I can't remember what day I am on but I never had the huge water weight drop in the first few because I started with 1 pill 2 times the first day....I have lost 9lbs in a little over a week. I had previously mentioned not sweating enough on 4 pills and I went to 6. (at 4 pills I did get the heat in waves but nothing major) 6 pills was tooo much..

I felt fine after 2 but definitely felt warmer and was OK in front of my desk fan...took 2 more at noon and around 2:30 started to bead up with sweat and the back of my neck and ass was practically dripping...took two more at 5:30 and I was sweating changing our of my work clothes and into my workout clothes. by the time I drove to the gym I was dripping and some of the guys thought I ran to the gym it was so bad. I normally use DNP at 500Mgs a day (250 in the am and 250 in the pm) and I am not positive if those dosages are accurate as I did not make them myself). 6 pills had me sweating as much as 500mgs of DNP and the best part was I didn't feel the lethargic feeling I get on DNP. One main difference is when I take DNP I sweat all night...with thermo I stop with the heat by midnight so it is more comfortable to sleep but probably not burning as much fat as DNP.
My summation:
Maybe on Thermo I have to use it for 2 weeks instead of one week of DNP for the same results but since the risks are less, I am hooked. I'll still use my DNP now and again but if the thermo keeps working like this for me then I think I'll stock up on thermo and cut one major risk out of my life. For those who know me I am an extreme advocate of DNP, so for me to say this, in my opinion it works great for me personally and it is comparable to low dosages of DNP.
 
Thanks for posting your results bro.

Fresh you may need to use 2 caps. Some people do. Except to say that everyone is different I don't see any pattern really. The appy suppression stopped a 303 lb powerlifter post workout at an all you eat buffet at half his normal intake. It stops supernav, me, and hundreds of others from eating when we don't want to. But like I said in all the data we're collecting we don't see any pattern. It seemingly prevents hunger across all weight, age, sex, diet, and training groups. But nothing is 100% for everyone on the planet, nothing.
 
so do you think dosage is by weight or tolerance? right know i am flucuating around 260/270. i take 2 caps 90 minutes apart. i will try taking 2 at once this afternoon.
 
im not a expert, but i dont think it has much to do with weight. my girlfriend was up to 3 tabs a day, and was still hungry as normal.
also, thanks mac and ulter, the banana thing is workin for her right now. she has gone down to 1 tab a day right before her workout, and no sides.
 
What kind of diet are you guys using on thermorexin?
I was gonna use it with a low - 0 carb diet but is it better to have some carbs due to the glucorel in it???
Thanks.
 
ulter said:
Thanks for posting your results bro.

Fresh you may need to use 2 caps. Some people do. Except to say that everyone is different I don't see any pattern really. The appy suppression stopped a 303 lb powerlifter post workout at an all you eat buffet at half his normal intake. It stops supernav, me, and hundreds of others from eating when we don't want to. But like I said in all the data we're collecting we don't see any pattern. It seemingly prevents hunger across all weight, age, sex, diet, and training groups. But nothing is 100% for everyone on the planet, nothing.
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Mr. Nobody's chinese Buffet Hosts must have had a party to celebrate his lack of apetite.....lol

Fonz
 
havent had any prostate related problems on t-rex within 3days of use.

t-rex was great for my workout today. i definitely noticed the slight increase in my strength. :p
 
fresh said:
so do you think dosage is by weight or tolerance? right know i am flucuating around 260/270. i take 2 caps 90 minutes apart. i will try taking 2 at once this afternoon.
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It's all about tollerance.


WelshInjectable said:
What kind of diet are you guys using on thermorexin?
I was gonna use it with a low - 0 carb diet but is it better to have some carbs due to the glucorel in it???
Thanks.
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We really suggest you take carbs with it. Not a bucket of Ben & Jerry's but some carbs. Maybe 30-50gr.

Dial_tone said:
Should Thermorexin affect the prostate in the way ECA products do? NYC hits me too hard in that area for some reason.
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No there should be no affect on your prostate.
 
Got mine yesterday. I took 1 pill with food about 1 hr pre workout. Had a kick ass workout. Great focus and stamina. I ended up sweating like a pig and my heart rate elevated rapidly. I had a slight upset stomoch for maybe 1/2 hr. No jitters...I do not feel too much appetite suppression. I will continue on 1 pill for a few more days and then bump it up.

So far I have to give it the thumbs up in terms of heating me up with out the negative sides that I frequently get from things like nyc etc.
 
T-rexin
Yesterday: 1 cap 4am w/cup green tea
workout 6am feel normal
another cap 8am
2 caps 10am little heat more alert
3pm dragg'n ass while I drive tractor
5pm 2 caps + 200mgs caf good to go until 11:30pm

Today: 2 caps 7am w/green tea +200mgs caf little more heat and more alert
noon 2 caps+200mgs caf little heat and feel fine
5pm 2 caps+200mgs caf increase in heat from before and feel good

notes

diet: low in carbs but not restricted. I just like my protien more.
not much on appetite suppresion
ephedra tolerance is high, may be why I'm up to 6 a day?
today was definitly better
have noticed no sides
 
Seems i found the amount that works on me, Finally getting both the heat and appetite suppresion. Thou still not sweating more than normal during workouts/cardio just warm all the time.

2 caps + 7.5 mg Yohimbine hcl morning

Noon 2 caps + 5 mg Yohimbine hcl + 200 mg Glucorell R prior lunch.

Late afternoon 2 caps + 7.5 mg Yohimbine hcll

Guess large dose is due to my high resistance plus size 6'4 250ish
 
Big Rush said:
Ulter, Macro........what about Accutane with Thermorexin? Would you all suspect any adverse side effects?
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I don't think so. What you have to watch out with accutane is your triglyceride levels.

Get some Alcar from the AF Store and run it at 3g/day. That should keep the lipid levels down.

Fonz
 
OXANDRIN said:
what in t-rex makes me take huge shits like 1-2 hours after taking?
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Bwahahahaha....there you go...I knew it just wasn't me.

I swear I go through a 6-pack of bog roll/day on T-rex.

LOL

Fonz
 
XzRzX said:


you could ask them to ship it for you via UPS. thats what i sometimes do if i order stuff thats not available in the AF EU store.

shipping weight was around 2-3lbs i think ... cost around $US67. i ordered it friday and it arrived here in the UK around tuesday :p

really great service!
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Guess I'll have to look into that. It's just that my wife got 2 books via UPS last week and the shipping and handling was more than the books together. They charge by the weight right? So in this case it probably wouldn't be that much.

Thanks for the tip.
 
Right.
You will save a considerable amount on shipping by buying THERMOREXIN from the Euro Store. We ship it to London in bulk and the distributor sends it to you from inside the EU. Because it IS inside the EU there are no additional taxes, we pay them upon entry, and the shipping is only from London. When we spread the shipping charges over 100 bottles it's only an additional $3 to you. Far less than using UPS on a bottle or two to bring it from here.
 
ulter said:
Axe, One of our astute customer service people just found a question you asked 11 days ago. (See I am right on top of this stuff)

No you shouldn't have a daily crash. The crash when you come off after several days will last a day and I suggest you use NYC at one tab that morning.
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Thanks...this thread was moving so fast I said fuck it and went ahead and bought some...day 2 for me.
 
1 week-No change in diet,no cardio.Slightly over 1/2" off of waist measurement.Results speak for themselves,specially with an endomorph like myself.2-3 caps per day is all I have been using.
 
ulter said:
Right.
You will save a considerable amount on shipping by buying THERMOREXIN from the Euro Store. We ship it to London in bulk and the distributor sends it to you from inside the EU. Because it IS inside the EU there are no additional taxes, we pay them upon entry, and the shipping is only from London. When we spread the shipping charges over 100 bottles it's only an additional $3 to you. Far less than using UPS on a bottle or two to bring it from here.
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Cool, thanks for the info. Now I just wait and drool :)
 
Ulter, or Macro, is it true that the price of this product will go up eventually?? If it will, can you please tell me when I can be expecting a price increase?
 
Primo_man said:
Ulter, or Macro, is it true that the price of this product will go up eventually?? If it will, can you please tell me when I can be expecting a price increase?
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The retail price is $109 and it will be sold for $99 at the AF Store.
But there will be a coupon for the people from the boards at $59. This is for the Family Size 180 cap bottle. There will eventually be a smaller botter but that's a ways off. No pricing has been done for that yet.
 
Ulter, T-rex wasnt on the Euro store so I ordered on normal site, will it be shipped from london though as Im in Uk?
Thanks, and how can I order it from euro store next time if its cheaper that way?
 
WOW! 2 caps a day, makes the water go away. I'm not sure if its all water, but since Wednesday Ive dropped 3 pounds. Same diet and same workout routine. I am definitely more alert and I sweat like a pig at the gym but otherwise I'm feeling normal. No headaches or exploding bowels. DAMN! I love it! Thanks to Ulter and Macro. I will continue to post results.:D
 
I get monstruous headaches and I feeel like shit if I take 3 at a time.

2 is my limit per time.

Fonz
 
Heat comparable to DNP
Somtach ache comparable to Bromo :-P

Just added more GT so right now I'm on:

100-120mcg Clen+Ketotifen
750 EGCGs from GT
6 Thermorexin per Day

Prom Night (cough, cough ;) ) is Saturday so I have to look good

Forgot to add appetite is lonnnnng gone. The thought of a protein shake makes me sick... :bawling:
 
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DNP plus thermo..started yesterday.

250mg DNP + 1 Thermo AM
250mg DNP + 1 thermo noon
2 thermos at 5:30PM....

In the words of Ace Ventura...Sure is WAAAARRRMMMM in these Rhinos!
 
MrMakaveli said:
Maybe Macro or Ulter can address this since I havent seen it mentioned in this thread

t-mag theo article

Any cause for concern w/ amount found in Thermorexin?
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NO

the dosage is kept low and its metabolism is enhanced by other consituents- including the source )black tea (tannins, etc)

btw- keep in mind that a pro-biotest article (a competitor of syntrax) and that there are no other beta agonists in Thermorexin
 
RippedUp said:


Last time I checked, it was $15 from the EU store.. :confused: :confused:
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3$ cost per unit... the shipping cost from the EU store is a separate shipping charge.. though to send UPS from the states is quite a bit more (you will not that due to vat and importation costs all supps are more expensive in the UK and europe)

though shipping is often the biggest cost..

though perhaps ulter can give you more insight
 
well got mine a last saturday. took one pill and didnt see much difference. im taking three caps today and see how that goes. already took two and im hungry as fuck, cant wait for lunch. i did feel warm but no "alertness" like some people are saying. no nausea or shakiness either. if four doesnt do much for me, im taking six tomorrow and see how it goes.
 
macrophage69alpha said:


3$ cost per unit... the shipping cost from the EU store is a separate shipping charge.. though to send UPS from the states is quite a bit more (you will not that due to vat and importation costs all supps are more expensive in the UK and europe)

though shipping is often the biggest cost..
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It was from the UK site. Ordering 1 bottle of Gluc-R costed about $15 shipping from UK to UK.
 
RippedUp said:


It was from the UK site. Ordering 1 bottle of Gluc-R costed about $15 shipping from UK to UK.
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It's $12 and that's a flat rate for Royal Mail up to 2 kilos. So if you order 1 bottle or 12 bottles the shipping and handling is the same. As Dr Macro explained what I meant by $3 was the cost of getting it to a European distributor per unit.

It's in the EU Store now.
 
Question: I have to limit ECA use due to prostate problems, will thermorexin usage contribute to prostate enlargement as ephedrine does?
 
After taking a few days off of all diet aids, I'm back on the thermorexin. 2 caps in the morning gave me no apitite supresion or heat but did make me more alert. 2 more caps this evening has my ass sweating like a whore and my alertness is as keen as a rattlesnake. I guess I am immune to the apetite supressive components to this b/c I can't stop craving or eating those damn detour bars. I'm always hungry by nature so there prbly isn't any hope for me in that catagory. Guess I'll drink some more water.
 
ulter said:


It's in the EU Store now.
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Yes it is and some of it is already on its way to meeeeeee!!
And if Postman Pat is as fast as he was with Yohimburn, t-rex should arrive on Friday.

Thanks AF boys and girls
 
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