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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

My girlfriends on day 2, yesterday she took one at 6pm before workout, felt nothin yet, slept fine. today she took 1 before gym at 10am, then took her second at 3pm, then she took a nap at about 4pm, slept an hour and half.
its now 8:30 and the only thing she has said is it made her sweat more at the gym. no heat at all otherwise, no head ache, nothin bad. were gettin ready to go down to the beach for the night, and she wants to take another tab. think all will be fine. no problems so far, 2 tabs so far today, and the last was 5 hours ago.
 
by the way, she's 23, 5'5" at 130lbs. we checked her heart rate a hour ago and it was 76 BPM about normal, maybe up 3 bpm from usual, and BP was still fine, about normal, which is low, she's in great cardio shape.
 
OH, one other slight side she had was she was shaky this morning when we went to the gym, about 30 minutes after she took 1 pill, but she hadnt ate anything for breakfast, and was workin out on an empty stomach.
we hit subway on the way home, and the shakiness went right away.
 
damn, just when i was about to order I read this first and find out that it really doesn't do much, I guess i can look at the bright side and realize I saved $54. Maybe more feedback will come.
 
is there a problem with UPS shipping out AF products specially this past week ?

i had a tracking number on one of my friends packages and it was all good ever since yesterday and today i enter the tracking number and the UPS site tells me that the tracking number doesnt exist !?!?!? WTF :mad:
 
ChrisOh said:
damn, just when i was about to order I read this first and find out that it really doesn't do much, I guess i can look at the bright side and realize I saved $54. Maybe more feedback will come.

what makes you think it dont do much, i think at the right doses it probly will.
 
I have noticed that the sweating only comes when I am drinking a lot of water or eating a lot. If I dry out or don't eat the heat seems to diminish. I don't know what that means.
This is a multi purpose diet pill however and for some people the appetite suppression will be like it is for me and supernav. Like him, I simply don't feel like eating at all even after training. I think some will get better focus from the nootropic (smart drugs) effects. Some will feel the increase in metabolism and sweat like pigs, again like me and some others posting here. Some people will feel it all. Some may feel nothing.
But it still all comes down to how much fat have you lost when you used it. Because we can't measure a diet pill by how you feel we have to measure it for it's results in removing fat.
We gave away 300 samples and sold a lot of bottles so we're hoping to get lots more feedback here. Hopefully it will be about loose fitting pants.
 
SO how do you know when you hit the right dose. i was tellin my girlfriend once she starts heatin up, that the dose. should she stay at 2 a day, and just monitor her weight, or could she up it a little.
 
KINGKONG69 said:
SO how do you know when you hit the right dose. i was tellin my girlfriend once she starts heatin up, that the dose. should she stay at 2 a day, and just monitor her weight, or could she up it a little.
If she feels ok and not stressed from it then by all means let her go up. I wouldn't let her go higher than 6 but I have a feeling she'll never get to 6. But who knows.
 
I take 2 NYC's in the AM for an extra kick.

Then 2 thermorexin at 3PM.............and sleep like never before.

Synephrine's catecholamine activity is FAR lower than nor-ephedrine so its best totake them around 3-4PM.

Thats obviously if you so choose to mix NYC and thermorexin.

Fonz
 
macrophage69alpha said:
its very difficult to feel any thermo effects on a keto diet

so are you saying that t-rex doesn't work on a keto diet? or is it that a person will get better fat loss results if they include some fruit in their diet. btw, when you say 'a peice of fruit' what exactly do you mean - 1 apple? 1/2 apple? 1/4 apple?
 
Millie said:


so are you saying that t-rex doesn't work on a keto diet?
no.. but that in ketosis "thermogenesis" even higher levels of it are often undetectable (from a "feel the heat" perspective) when in a keto metabolic environment.. its the "carbs as fuel that provides the "heat feeling" as anyone who has eaten them on DNP is well aware

or is it that a person will get better fat loss results if they include some fruit in their diet. btw, when you say 'a peice of fruit' what exactly do you mean - 1 apple? 1/2 apple? 1/4 apple?

yes.. this is true.. 1 apple is probably sufficient (depending on bodywieght) for larger individuals perhaps a banana would be better) apples a good low calorie choice



btw- with the use of glucorell.. there really is no need for ketosis.. JMHO (and a decent bit of both clinical and anecdotal evidence)
 
appettie suppression usually goes with nausea for me. has anyone else experience any nausea from thermorex? i dont mind the suppressed appettite of course but the nausea really kills my day. just looking for feedback on this before i take my first thermorex pill
 
have any of you guys also used pondimin in the past? I was wondering if the appetite suppressant effects of thermorex compared to this. - cbeaks
 
yeah i just got a sample packet and didnt know i was getting it i ordered some 3 days ago. But i dont feel a thing. im gonna up it to two tommorow and pray i didnt waste my money. I dont need an appetite suppresant i need a fat burner.

TTORO
 
Fonz said:
I take 2 NYC's in the AM for an extra kick.

Then 2 thermorexin at 3PM.............and sleep like never before.

Synephrine's catecholamine activity is FAR lower than nor-ephedrine so its best totake them around 3-4PM.

Thats obviously if you so choose to mix NYC and thermorexin.

Fonz

Ok, I've definately adapted to thermorexins thermogenic/stimulant properties after a couple of days.

The good part is that its anorectic properties are still there en full force.

So, you can take it circa 5-6 PM and still be able to sleep and keep your apetitte in check.

That could be me only though. :)

I take 2 NYC's at 9AM and 5 Thermorexins at 5-6PM.

Fonz
 
macrophage69alpha said:


btw- with the use of glucorell.. there really is no need for ketosis.. JMHO (and a decent bit of both clinical and anecdotal evidence)

so this means around 30min before a workout, i take thermorexin, 1 cap r-ala and an apple ? would that suffice
 
macrophage69alpha said:


its both... and "feeling" has little to do with "fat burning".. though it is ONE indicator...
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Macro what u say is true..as usual... but i guess what i meant is i need something to get me going in the gym like ECA does. I wasnt trying to knock the product I believe everyone is different as has been repeated all over the board many times. just throwing in my .02.

TTORO
 
OMG Ulter..i got a sample of it attached to my order or R-ALA and nyc+...Holy Fucking crap..

I gave it a shot instead of NYC. This shit kicked my ass. I was shaking and sweating more then then 120mcg or Clen. I think this is an Amazing Product.

I have a few questions. How does if effect muscle growth? Does it eat away lean mass like DNP? Finally could you stack this w/ a summer cycle to keep off the bloat?
 
I didn't take any Thermorexin Sunday. Didn't have any headaches at all. So this morning I popped one cap, 30 minutes later the headaches are back. I didn't drink any green tea this morning either....thinking maybe the extra caffiene was adding to the headaches.

I'm done with this stuff, it isn't for me....something in it just isn't agreeing with me. If anybody wants to buy a hardly used bottle of it PM me, I only used 16 caps. I'd send it back but I don't think I can get a refund since I already used some.
 
XzRzX, I actually use more than an apple. I drink Gatorade throughout the workout after I take 2 Glucorell R.

LftHndPwrHouse, No it doesn't eat LBM. However, as supernav and I have pointed out, you have to remember to eat when you take it, if you don't eat you'll lose LBM not matter what you're using. I agree with him that the most useful thing about THERMOREXIN is that YOU control when and what you eat. Not your appetite.

JG1, I am sorry to hear that bro. Just send it back and get your money back. We don't want your money if you can't use it.
 
ulter said:
XzRzX, I actually use more than an apple. I drink Gatorade throughout the workout after I take 2 Glucorell R.

LftHndPwrHouse, No it doesn't eat LBM. However, as supernav and I have pointed out, you have to remember to eat when you take it, if you don't eat you'll lose LBM not matter what you're using. I agree with him that the most useful thing about THERMOREXIN is that YOU control when and what you eat. Not your appetite.

JG1, I am sorry to hear that bro. Just send it back and get your money back. We don't want your money if you can't use it.

Thanks ulter, I appreciate that.

Can you PM me with a shipping addy and RMA # ?.

thanks again.
 
supernav said:
>minutes later the headaches are back

Did u try eating something small with it?

-= nav =-

Doesn't matter if I take it with or without food, tried both.....I get these pounding headcahes eaither way.
 
Many nootropics that increase acetylcholine metabolism have a reputation for causing headaches too. DMAE, piracetam, and ALCAR all effect acetylcholine metabolism.
 
just a quick question,

what if i apply yohimburn 30min before i train, wouldnt eating an apple or sumthing interfgere with the yohimburn ?
 
anychance its not effective for some people. my girlfriends 3 or 4 days in, and up to 3 tabs a day, and hasnt felt much of anything yet. also, she's down maybe 1lb. she's on yohmburn also, and on a decent diet.

im not complaining what so ever, i mean she's not lookin to get a ton of sides, do you think it just takes longer to work on some people then others.
 
KINGKONG69 said:
anychance its not effective for some people. my girlfriends 3 or 4 days in, and up to 3 tabs a day, and hasnt felt much of anything yet. also, she's down maybe 1lb. she's on yohmburn also, and on a decent diet.

im not complaining what so ever, i mean she's not lookin to get a ton of sides, do you think it just takes longer to work on some people then others.

if diet is low or zero carb then. thermogenic effect is often blunted (ie you are still thermogenic.. you just dont get hot)

level of stimulation varies CONSIDERABLY.. though most find it sufficiently strong and less jittery than "standard" stacks..

appetite suppression.. this is pretty consistantly strong.. (though their will be exceptions)

finally.. for people not as in tune with thier bodies responses.. some effects while quite strong may be subtle to them...

(ie some people take strong stims.. to the point where thier feet are constantly tapping, they run around like maniacs, sweat, etc.. but fail to realize it.. very odd.. but very true)
 
ulter said:
"to the point where thier feet are constantly tapping... ... but fail to realize it"

Thanks bro I couldn't figure out what that noise was.

Thats adrenergic stimulation from an excessive catcholamine cascade initiated by a a drug that mimics adrenaline.(This is not good and can damage nerve endings/terminals)

ALCar does the same , but naturally. It will improve your synaptic respose times(electrically) from motor neuron to motor neuron. Making your reaction times, and electrical impulses between them much more efficient. Not to mention improve the re-uptake of your own endogeneous adrenaline.

Mark my words.....ALCar is the nootropic of ephedrine.

You heard it here first folks. :)

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


Thats adrenergic stimulation from an excessive catcholamine cascade initiated by a a drug that mimics adrenaline.(This is not good and can damage nerve endings/terminals)

ALCar does the same , but naturally. It will improve your synaptic respose times(electrically) from motor neuron to motor neuron. Making your reaction times, and electrical impulses between them much more efficient. Not to mention improve the re-uptake of your own endogeneous adrenaline.

Mark my words.....ALCar is the nootropic of ephedrine.

You heard it here first folks. :)

Fonz


Oh, and ALCar has the capacity to REAPIR damaged nerves/terminals because it produces the highest concentration of Nerve Growth Factors after ingestion known to be produced by a natural substance.

The only exception being RnGF-1(Recombinant nerve growth factor 1) that was discontinued by Genetech.

Fonz
 
ulter said:
There is no comparison.... THERMOREXIN

I don't even know if DNP could work better. No shit.

C'mon bro.....I totally respect you, but are you serious?
 
LftHndPwrHouse said:
OMG Ulter..i got a sample of it attached to my order or R-ALA and nyc+...Holy Fucking crap..

I gave it a shot instead of NYC. This shit kicked my ass. I was shaking and sweating more then then 120mcg or Clen. I think this is an Amazing Product.

I have a few questions. How does if effect muscle growth? Does it eat away lean mass like DNP? Finally could you stack this w/ a summer cycle to keep off the bloat?

DNP doesn't eat away at lean mass---that is just another myth. Whenever I alternately use an anaver cycle, with a DNP cycle, I always gain more lean muscle mass, get more shredded, all the while my bf% decreases.....and the most significant aspect of this is that my biceps and chest muscles keep growing. Usually, the upper-body is the first area to lose strength and lean mass when hit with a pro-longed dose of heat, whether it be from the flu, DNP or continued daily use of a sauna.
Heat is heat, bros. You just have to make sure you keep your body's core temperature at a reasonable level, and you take all precautions (supplements/fruits) necessary in order to protect your organs.

And as an LPN, I know a great deal about this.
 
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supernav said:
>ALCar is the nootropic of ephedrine.

Allright chief. So where do i get this AlCar that you speak of?

-= nav =-

Research it.

Fonz
 
macrophage69alpha said:

Hehe..... :)

The ultimate satck AF Stack:

GLA(1.2g) + R-ALA(600mg) + Biotin(12mg) + Yoh DF + Thermorexin + AlCar(2-3g)AM

Now you need Green Tea. or a nootropic.

Get working Mac. :)

Fonz
 
Does this stuff have any vaso-dilation effects like Ephedrine or Nor-Eph?

Meaning, does it shrink blood vessels?

Meaning, WILL IT SOFTEN YOUR DICK? LOL
 
Update

1 Week of use of 1 thermo am with 100mcg clen
1 thermo at lunch with 100mcg clen
2 thermo 45 minutes before the gym....
Not sweating super bad but definitely more then usual when i work out...not at all during the day though. Huge difference in stamina for me....in every aspect of my life I might add :)

Definitely interested in what happens when you take this and DNP. I was starting my DNP ccyle next week. Let me know if anyone trys this out. Definitely better then ECA or NYC....once I hit 6 caps then I will comment on the comparison to DNP.
 
Don't know whether I display a hypersensitivity to some of the substrates in this formulation or not,but the most I can tolerate is 3 caps per day.T-Rex is HIGHLY stimulatory for me...I was drinking 2 cups of coffee for a morning wake-up before I started it,and now I can barely handle a half cup.My hands are jittery as hell,feels almost like pure Ephedrine HCL,lol.The sweats are tolerable,but the overstimulation was a little too much,so I will be sticking with 2-3 caps per day.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Don't know whether I display a hypersensitivity to some of the substrates in this formulation or not,but the most I can tolerate is 3 caps per day.T-Rex is HIGHLY stimulatory for me...I was drinking 2 cups of coffee for a morning wake-up before I started it,and now I can barely handle a half cup.My hands are jittery as hell,feels almost like pure Ephedrine HCL,lol.The sweats are tolerable,but the overstimulation was a little too much,so I will be sticking with 2-3 caps per day.

as noted.. stimulation varies A LOT... though tolerance should (to at least a certain extent) develop
 
SuperbeastC&J said:
since wed i have been taking these, and have lost 16 pounds so far. i went from a 270 to 254.....

is it all water, has to be, you cant loose fat that quick can you.

how many a day are you on.
 
Sorry if this sounds dumb, but once u replenish the water you have shed, wouldnt you only shed the water you have replenished?>


ulter said:


Absolutely the first 3-4 pounds coming off will be water. But then once you lose it, which takes a day, you won't be putting any more on so whatever comes off after that is fat.

It's better than ECA or NYC for training. Again we join Mr Nobody's posts already in progress....


Mr. Nobody
posted 05-19-2003 08:34 PM
o.k. I wont try 2 before working out again...I had goosebumps throughout my whole workout...but the stamina was great

He normally uses ECA.
 
Took my first Thermorexin about 45 minutes ago, and I'm feeling a little warmer and much more focused presently. Not wired within an inch of my life, which I like. Appetite is stone dead, but it has been since I woke up. I think I like this stuff. :)
 
mixwell said:
Sorry if this sounds dumb, but once u replenish the water you have shed, wouldnt you only shed the water you have replenished?>



Yes once the intial water dump takes place, which for me was the second night, you won't be able to put it back in to where it stays. I lost 3-4 the first 48 hours and then 7 more over the next 7 days. After the 4th day every thing was fat loss.
 
of course a certain percentage is water, but ive noticed a huge diff in my gut and lovehandles alone. my aunt came in and shes like, wow, you look good, youve lost alot of weight, and thats when i began to notice it. lol yea, i am not bodybuilder, i just like to lift ALOT and be strong, and i do weightlifting competitions aswell.
 
took my first one today i feel a lil heated up but nothing to big yet ill keep everyone posted on my results
 
supernav said:
>this is fairly consistent among users

This could be a HUGE boon to ckd or atkins diet users. Who's #1 problem is always that craving for food and carbs.
-= nav =-

actually.. even better.. to cast aside keto and replace with glucorellR supplementation(R+ lipoic).. healthier and more effective for most people with respect to fat loss...

though thermorexins suppression of cravings should be a boon for many (regardless of diet composition)
 
Ceebs said:
Took my first Thermorexin about 45 minutes ago, and I'm feeling a little warmer and much more focused presently. Not wired within an inch of my life, which I like. Appetite is stone dead, but it has been since I woke up. I think I like this stuff. :)

Now get ready for the EXPLOSIVE bowel movements.

Word. :)

Fonz
 
supernav said:
Why, it'll make you a GAZILLION TRILLION DOLLARS!
Fonz said:
Now get ready for the EXPLOSIVE bowel movements.

Is CAPS FOR EMPHASIS a side effect of Thermorexin? :)

Had another one at 5pm, shortly before going running. Cardio absolutely flew by - I could kind of zone out and let my body do its own thing. I also just now finished baking a batch of chocolate chip cookies, and wasn't tempted at all to snack on the dough or the fresh-from-the-oven product. Awesomeness.
 
Originally posted by Fonz
Now get ready for the EXPLOSIVE bowel movements


Seriously? i havent noticed this at all,thankfully...

z
 
Fonz said:


Now get ready for the EXPLOSIVE bowel movements.

Word. :)

Fonz


Exploding poop is funny.....just as long as your hot ass girlfriend is nowhere near the bathroom door to hear the spray......anyway I will say this much.......I have some serious ADD and I read this entire thread....so I now feel obligated to buy a bottle.......:p
 
Well day one felt great. Very energetic and warmer.
Day two was less then i wanted. I took two pills at once and felt nothing out side of the thought of food made me feel sick.

I was wondering what is exactly in it? I was thinking about stacking it with some NYC to get a maxium thermogenic effect. But the dosage of Ephedra in the combined two worry me.


P.S. Day two i could not stop going to the bathroom.

It seems this product works wonders for killing your hunger. i am just wondering how well it will burn fat? Also how it will effect stacking it w/ NYC and AAS products for summer cuts?
 
NOTE: regarding "fonz's Bowels... taking 8 thermorexin, probably green tea extract as well (usually caffiene rich) and 2 NYC.. is well over a gram of caffiene.. which will have a tendency to stimulate bowels..
 
macrophage69alpha said:
NOTE: regarding "fonz's Bowels... taking 8 thermorexin, probably green tea extract as well (usually caffiene rich) and 2 NYC.. is well over a gram of caffiene.. which will have a tendency to stimulate bowels..

HOLY CRAP! :eek2: (literally...)
 
i got a sample pack with my order of r-ala

so yesterday i took 1 before the gym and had a great workout.

this morning i decided to take 2 on an empty stomach before my 5am 4 mile run. was feeling great until mile number 3.... the last mile was sweaty! and i felt sick..... then after i was done :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

i threw up.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
jg1,

it may be the vinpocetine.. while extremely rare it can cause headaches in some individuals because it it increase neurovascular blood flow..

macro,

I also noticed while I was taking it that my throat felt constricted at times, felt very tight. Could I have been having an allergic reaction to something in the thermorexin that may have been causing both the headaches and tight throat?
 
I started out pretty light with this stuff, not wanting it to effect my sleep at all, but here is an overview of my experiences so far:

I began taking one cap per day with breakfast for 3 days, then moved up to a second cap in the afternoon around 3:00. I could not sleep the first night, but that's probably just me, if I drink any caffeine in the later part of the day...I'm done. I did not gain anything by this afternoon tab, no increase in temp or appetite supressment.

For the lst 4 days, I have been taking one cap in the early morning (6:30)on an empty stomach, then about an hour later, a second cap with breakfast. This is the trick for me. I can stay 'hot' up until about 11:30 when I repeat the process. I am literally sweating as I type this message. I do not have an accurate means to take my body temp, I've been using my kids thermometer and it says that my temp is up .3 degrees.

Without understanding the scientific reasons behind this product, or knowing what to expect. I can give you the following impressions:

It makes me feel like I'm taking t3. I have not experienced any jitters, headaches or upset stomache. I have had to almost double my water intake, however I am not pissing it out like other stims make you do, it is being sweated out. I have not worried about diet the past week, I eat junk but still have dropped 1 1/2 pounds. Next week, I'm planning to slowly work into a CKD diet and take better notes to pass on.

BPP
 
I posted this on Bolex(after seeing someone else mention it):

Another worthwhile side I have been experiencing is increased erections.For a few hours after each cap I start sprouting a semi,lol.
 
macrophage69alpha said:


perhaps adjusting your dosage of Pseven, up or down.. or taking closer together.

are you taking anything else for it (anxiety)?

No, not taking nothing else for it. The anxiety isn't severe, but it's there.

Right now I'm taking the P7 (peppermint) only at night, but I might get a bottle of the orange and use it in the morning, and perhaps mid afternoon.
 
JG1 said:


No, not taking nothing else for it. The anxiety isn't severe, but it's there.

Right now I'm taking the P7 (peppermint) only at night, but I might get a bottle of the orange and use it in the morning, and perhaps mid afternoon.

that may be a very viable solution in your case
 
macrophage69alpha said:

what a workout ! after around 45minutes of taking 1 cap of t-rex i started feeling this weird tingly sensation. my temp slowly rose and i did my cardio for 45minutes. I was sweating like a pig after my run! i did not feel any headaches or stomach upsets as previously reported by other people.

appetite suppresion was definitely on overdrive. i had a hard time eating my post workout-meal coz i felt that i didnt want to eat anything for the rest of the day

cardio was a breeze. it seemed that i had an easier time on a higher speed setting on the treadmill compared to before. i had this weird sense of being happy, i really dont know why. i'll be upping my dosage twice a day but with two caps tomorrow and i'll probably do to t-rex's at a time by the end of the week :p

better than ECA for me! ECA gets me really nervous and paranoid i dont know why. i'll be stacking t-rex with clen hopefully by next week.

how do i cycle trex/clen and NYC/clen ?;) :p
 
id settle down there supernav, im still a little skeptical about it. my girlfriend has used it for 6 days now, been up to 3 pills a day, got major headaches, no heat, no mind enhancement effect, and is down maybe 1lb.

she works out 5 days a week with me, weight training and cardio and is on a reduced calorie diet. since the headaches hit here so hard, she's only gonna take 1 tab a day for a while.

not sayin it isnt good shit, but it dont work the same for everyone. a couple other guys have droped it due to sides.

macro, maybe add some asprin in the tabs for the headaches.
 
Just gotten my p-seven in after only ordering 3 days ago......EXCELLENT SERVICE!!! Also got a sample of this thermorexin-took a cap at 4:pm today workout at 6...what can i say,it was the mother of all workouts-i could just listen to the music and let my body go thru the motions,i was in the zone...this was the only effect i felt off of it...gonna try 2 tomorrow.I'll post the results!!!



RADAR
 
KINGKONG69, Can you help us out bro?
We need to find out more specifics about your gf. No it doesn't work the same for everyone but the reason is usually something we can look out for. Or maybe we can find a pattern so we can figure out what to do about it.
My mother in law quit after 5 days because it made her light headed. But she was light headed because she wasn't eating any carbs and was getting hypoglycemic. This was easily remedied with a banana. If you don’t want to post it call us at 1-866-ANAFIT-2 toll free.
 
Just got the t-rexin tonight.
Try it with my morning workout.
Post how it goes when I get the chance.

AF quick to return e-mails, thanks.
 
well, ill try to give what info i can.
she's 23
her diet is approx 2000 cals
3 meals a day (i know, should be more)
breakfast is a small portion of eggs, bacon, and potato
lunch is a sandwich, turkey and cheese, or ham and cheese, with some crackers
dinner is usually chicken (skinless boneless), along with a small side of rice, or beans.

all these meals are on the small side, definatly woman size. each day varies some but this would be the norm.

i know the diet isnt ideal, me and her arent nutrition freaks.


no anxiety
low blood pressure
has alot of endureance, can run miles at the high school, no problem.

i appricate the help, also i love your ala-r, this shit is really helpin me on loosein fat.
 
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