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halfaclue

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I've never done this so I have no clue by my boy wants to do 6 weeks of D-bol only. What does he need for when he comes off and when should he start PCT? he is going to take a-dex during cycle.
 
fuck that entirely,what's his/your age btw?
I get the feeling this is a teenager once again,that's scared shitless of needles.

he/you/who the fuck ever- will experience massive water retention because of estrogen sides at the start of the cycle,then shrink down to nothing at the end of the cycle when he stops taking the dbol.

if he/you are under 21 you have no fucking business doing androgens in the first place.your body is flooded with testosterone naturally.
 
Ive heard mixed reviews but derma sust would be good PCT and I think that you could start PCT 2 days after your last tab. Some ppl despise orals but ive done considerable reading and asking some vets and I am starting to believe if you train hard and keep your diet in check during and post cycle and you dont fuck around with PCT I think you could make some decent gains.
 
halfaclue said:
I've never done this so I have no clue by my boy wants to do 6 weeks of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only. What does he need for when he comes off and when should he start PCT - post cycle therapy - ? he is going to take a-dex during cycle.


Tell him to go to roidstore.com and they have everything you will ever need. Keep up posted and good luck..
 
hyp1 said:
fuck that entirely,what's his/your age btw?
I get the feeling this is a teenager once again,that's scared shitless of needles.

he/you/who the fuck ever- will experience massive water retention because of estrogen sides at the start of the cycle,then shrink down to nothing at the end of the cycle when he stops taking the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - .

if he/you are under 21 you have no fucking business doing androgens in the first place.your body is flooded with testosterone naturally.

Actually, testosterone levels peak at 25-26 and stay high till about 32

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It depends if he wants to get big(like most guys here) then no. He will lose it all. But if he wants it purely for the performance enhancing abilities then hell yes. Dbol will put strenght on and he will be able to keep almost all of it with good pct. I quess he could do armidex and clomid. He may not need all that. That part I really don't want to say because I just don't know.

Some guys need to remember that not every guy who takes juice wants to be huge or a bodybuilder.
 
Hmm I dunno there are some guys here that evidently know what they are talking about and im just saying that from talking to them and what they told me. Are you saying that if they did the Dbol only cycle they did before and they said the kept almost everything calling bullshit on them entirely? hmmm

Maybe they will come on this thread. I hope so.
 
flotown said:
It depends if he wants to get big(like most guys here) then no. He will lose it all. But if he wants it purely for the performance enhancing abilities then hell yes. Dianabol - methandrostenolone - will put strenght on and he will be able to keep almost all of it with good PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . I quess he could do armidex and clomid. He may not need all that. That part I really don't want to say because I just don't know.

Some guys need to remember that not every guy who takes juice wants to be huge or a bodybuilder.
so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...


most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...



ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????


if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...



get off your high horse and answer the ???? then


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needtogetaas said:
so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...


most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self
.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...

right on the fucking money needto... right on the fucking money
 
needtogetaas said:
ya like that. :)
yeah thats soo true.. i've been saying that for the longest time. why do people think that just because they added test to their cycle that the orals are going to be less harmful to them? it makes no fucking sense
 
Yeh I agree that doesnt make much sense for ppl to say dont take it alone its so bad and dangerous get some test but then they do what he said and frontload a cycle with 50mg of Dbol ed for the first 4-6 weeks. Kinda confuses me.
 
I've been on dbol only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that dbol. No pct necessary if you stay on for life. Put the dbol in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.
 
BigCracker said:
I've been on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . No PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - necessary if you stay on for life. Put the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.
this is a wacky crazy post.this man is on a lot of drugs...please be advised.newbs do not do this at home. :worried:

well sept the jerking off part even I do that.
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
Yeh I agree that doesnt make much sense for ppl to say dont take it alone its so bad and dangerous get some test but then they do what he said and frontload a cycle with 50mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for the first 4-6 weeks. Kinda confuses me.
it would confuse any one.all you got to do is put 2 and 2 together and hmmm these guys are dumb dumbs :mix:
 
BigCracker said:
I've been on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . No PCT - post cycle therapy - necessary if you stay on for life. Put the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.
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shit that sucks I tried to give you a free plat.
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
Damn :/ I was really hoping that sometime in the future I would be tossin a handful into my frosted flakes every morning.
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got you though dont forget my name when you get your derma.lol :)
 
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shit that sucks I tried to give you a free plat.

It's the thought that counts bro. Thanks. I owe you a cyber reach around with a nutsack tickle.
 
needtogetaas said:
this is a wacky crazy post.this man is on a lot of drugs...please be advised.newbs do not do this at home. :worried:

well sept the jerking off part even I do that.


I forgot to mention that I huff paint during each exercise and eat lead paint chips post workout to aid in the recovery process. Sometimes I eat Asbestos pre workout too but only on the days I'm not mainlining Ebola Virus. :p
 
needtogetaas said:
so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...


most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...



ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????


if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...
im with you needto. if it aint a kid afraid of hypodermics then i say go for it again assuming the indvidual is KNOWLEDGEABLE and experienced. not some guy \ kid looking for "quick muscles." i am wrapping up an all oral cycle (var) and i have accomplished what i set out to do. i have not done a cycle in 2 years and i wanted to put on a little mass and lose a bf percentage or two. mission accomplished. i have pics in my gallery. i am 6'4 240 and 7% according to calipers, i know these are notoriously inaccurate but none the less i am single digit. i can see both sides but i think it is contextual. if it is an experienced, knowledgeable of age user....yes. if it is a little punk trying to get instant muscles.....no.
 
layinback said:
im with you needto. if it aint a kid afraid of hypodermics then i say go for it again assuming the indvidual is KNOWLEDGEABLE and experienced. not some guy kid looking for "quick muscles." i am wrapping up an all oral cycle (Anavar - oxandrolone - ) and i have accomplished what i set out to do. i have not done a cycle in 2 years and i wanted to put on a little mass and lose a bf percentage or two. mission accomplished. i have pics in my gallery. i am 6'4 240 and 7% according to calipers, i know these are notoriously inaccurate but none the less i am single digit. i can see both sides but i think it is contextual. if it is an experienced, knowledgeable of age user....yes. if it is a little punk trying to get instant muscles.....no.
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layinback said:
im with you needto. if it aint a kid afraid of hypodermics then i say go for it again assuming the indvidual is KNOWLEDGEABLE and experienced. not some guy kid looking for "quick muscles." i am wrapping up an all oral cycle (Anavar - oxandrolone - ) and i have accomplished what i set out to do. i have not done a cycle in 2 years and i wanted to put on a little mass and lose a bf percentage or two. mission accomplished. i have pics in my gallery. i am 6'4 240 and 7% according to calipers, i know these are notoriously inaccurate but none the less i am single digit. i can see both sides but i think it is contextual. if it is an experienced, knowledgeable of age user....yes. if it is a little punk trying to get instant muscles.....no.

OK, so dbol only is fine for about 10% of the guys posting here. I can believe that.
 
So how come none of the oral only haters haven't posted back up??? BTW..I'm 30..i like needles and the juicy goodness that comes with them. My boy is 34..he has done 3-4 cycles in his life and they included test and d-bol. He scored some d-bol and wanted to do a d-bol only cycle. I've never done this so I'm asking for advice. I was guessing he should run his a-dex the whole cycle but I didn't know if you needed clomid at the end of the cycle or when to begin PCT with just d-bol. Thanks to those who are trying to help.
 
See I am in the starting with oral boat. I am 21 been training on and off for a few years and I have taken it real serious these past few months. I think I have a pretty excellent natural build to work off of. I live at home with the rents and prolly will for the next 1-2 years until I re-figure out what I wanna do with my life. Long story but some shit fell through. It would be easier for me to stash a few bottles of pills rather than hide alcohol pads,syringes,vials or satchets and have to worry about getting all the first time injections right. Id rather wait to do that where I can do it in the comfort of my own place.

Im not scared of needles at all I am used to daily injections. I had food allergies as a kid so I used to take a shot every day and when getting tested I could take about 30 pokes or so in about 3-4hrs to test lol. Kind of got used to being a pin cushion so me for starting orals is totally different.

Ive had some knowledgeable bros helpin me trying to figure one out and I think in a few months ill finally be ready to dabble for my first time in AAS's. Pretty fuckin excited aint gunna bullshit :)
 
Id like to since its jsut about winter time here use Dbol to bulk up and then maybe as winter ends try some anavar to pack on the last few quality lbs of lbm and maybe lose some excess junk before I really try to do some hardcore cutting for spring/summer. What do you guys think?
 
Sorry I didn't state myself very well. You have to agree if you do a dbol only clycle you are gonna lose a lot of the size you put on. I was saying if you are looking for size there are smarter ways to do it. Yes you will keep some. Whatever wasn't water and was actual muscle.

Don't get me wrong I like the idea for a guy who wants the strength. I have always done real well with keeping strength gains from dbol and I know many others have as well. In this case it is a good and I would think a better alternative to a test only first clycle. Much easier to recover from.
 
Yeh well like I said its a little hard for me to do the injections right now so im trying to decide if I shoudl jsut wait until I move out or if there is somewhat of an alternative by using the orals. Thats my main concern. I have used a few otc test boosters and I kow my body responds very well with them with a pretty good diet and intense training. I blew up one summer when I combined all 3 of them and I just want some stuff thats a lil stronger and that I know for a fact work.
 
Whoa!!! 3-4 cycles!!! That means he's probably had at least 1-2 years in the gym too!!! That's some serious street cred there. I better step right up and apologize for not taking this thread more seriously. I'm removing my baseball cap and bustin out my "in front of a judge and facing 15 years" manners now.

WTF??? I'm 40yrs old and have been training since I was 14. From age 19 on I was in the gym 6-7 days a week. At least 1/3 of those days I trained twice a day. I'd bet my virgin asshole that I've taken less time off since I was 19 than most guys here have taken off in 2007 alone. I even train on Thanksgiving day, X-mas Eve, X-mas, and New years day. While competing I went 5 of those 21 years in the gym without eating any refined sugar at all. I mean zero, zip, nada. I ate 3 cans of tuna a day for almost 2 years straight before I did my 1st show. I seldom ever miss my caloric requirements for any given day and the only way I'd do a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle was out of sheer desperation due to the lack of access to anything else. So before you start offering up your "bros" less than impressive 3-4 cycles at 34 years old stats, as if he's beyond hardcore and should not be questioned for wanting to take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, you might wanna re evaluate your opinions of those that think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is not the best choice for him.
 
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Hybridtheory2o said:
See I am in the starting with oral boat. I am 21 been training on and off for a few years and I have taken it real serious these past few months. I think I have a pretty excellent natural build to work off of. I live at home with the rents and prolly will for the next 1-2 years until I re-figure out what I wanna do with my life. Long story but some shit fell through. It would be easier for me to stash a few bottles of pills rather than hide alcohol pads,syringes,vials or satchets and have to worry about getting all the first time injections right. Id rather wait to do that where I can do it in the comfort of my own place.

Im not scared of needles at all I am used to daily injections. I had food allergies as a kid so I used to take a shot every day and when getting tested I could take about 30 pokes or so in about 3-4hrs to test lol. Kind of got used to being a pin cushion so me for starting orals is totally different.

Ive had some knowledgeable bros helpin me trying to figure one out and I think in a few months ill finally be ready to dabble for my first time in anabolic androgenic steroids's. Pretty fuckin excited aint gunna bullshit :)


Listen to yourself dude. You are justifying a dbol only cycle because you still live at home. You are a grown man that in a sense is allowing your parents to pay for your illegal drugs by allowing you to continue to sponge off of them for a couple more years while you figure out what you wanna do. How would you feel if for some odd reason that you were busted for possession of roids in your parents home??? Do you realize that there's a chance that they could have their assets(meaning their house, cars, etc) seized because you chose to bring illegal drugs into their home? Granted, the chances of this happening are probably minimal, but in an extreme situation it is still a possibility. Even if the chances of this happening are .005%, it's still more than if you waited until you were responsible enough to live on your own. I didn't have the luxury of being able to live with my parents at your age and if I did I surely would've respected the rules of the house.

In short, if you don't have your shit together enough to live on your own, you are not mature enough to be using drugs that could lead to you being arrested and getting a felony on your record that will limit your ability to get a good job. You would also no longer be able to vote or carry a firearm. Furthermore using these drugs could lead to health problems and the only reason you are using them is to get a few t shirt muscles. It's not like you're getting ready for the Decathalon in the 2008 Olympics or anything.

Sorry for the harsh words, but I had a fucked up childhood where every day was a challenge. My mother beat the shit out of me regularly with hairbrushes, wooden spoons, and her fists while my father stood by and did nothing. When I hear of guys like you that have parents gracious enough to allow them to live at home while you're deciding what to do with your life, it irritates me to no end that you don't realize how good you've got it. I'd bet $$$ that your fridge is always full and they help you out in other ways as well. It angers me that you would even consider putting them at even the slightest risk for your own vanity.

I always told myself I'd never grow up to be one of those old fucks that says "Kids these days blah, blah, blah." Now here I am saying it because I never thought the younger generation could get anymore selfish than mine. I guess I was wrong? Nothing personal. I just want you to realize that what your parents have provided you with isn't a standard that all parents follow.
 
needtogetaas said:
so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...


most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...



ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????


if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...



get off your high horse and answer the ???? then


:qt:
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w.t.f i ll admit it. my first cycle was all oral. d-bol , long time. 12 weeks. yes i made gains , but i lost it all. at the end all i was left with was some nasty mid-section pain. from the bottom of my chest down to my balls. ....dumb ass , never again. p.c.t ? whats that ? at the time i knew nothing about it.
 
Yeh I understand what you are saying bigcracker. As far as sponging off them for my habits? Uh no I work 2 jobs to pay for any suppliments I use and my gym membership and my fridge is full but not for me I buy my own foods because I do not eat the same as them anymore.

I do understand what you are saying and I have thought about this a lot which is why I still read and talk about all this so I can get some sort of a plan. I am not justifying a Dbol cycle because I live at home. What I was trying to say was that if I decide to do this while I live at home still then this would be easier for me and I stated why. This has nothing to do with not respecting the rules of the house and I also cant help the fact that I am not on my own with my job because I found otu i was color deficient. Which is also why I said now I have to basically sit back down and re plan and figure out what to do.

Trust me if I wanted to be a dumb fuck I could be going and buying all the AAS's that I wanted. And your right I do have it pretty fuckin good I am not gunna complain there. Which is also another reason why I have not purchased any AAS's and have also debated if I was ready or not.

I didnt say ok here is my order I just tracked it omfg its gunna be here in 1 day or w/e I just didnt understand why so many ppl would shun away a Dbol cycle for a first time user and say its too toxic or blah blah but here use it with some test and ur fine. That doesnt make sense to me.

But yeh I do understand as well as I can of where you are coming from. Obviously i didnt live your life but I do realize I have it good and I am not looking to gain a couple T-shirt muscles. I also never said that I didnt want to compete. Where I live I dont have the luxury of trainers and what not(not saying you do but i def dont really here) So it takes me a lot longer to make a decision on if I would ever want to pursue bodybuilding enough to compete and yeh I would like to.
 
Exactly needto. I asked the same question a week or two ago. How does Dball become safe in a cycle just because you add injectables?

Some of the people that call dball only dangerous at maybe 35mg per day will have 50mg of it in their next cycle and also finish with 50mg of stanozolol or 40-100mg of anavar.

You can say a dball only cycle is pointless and not as effective as one that includes injectables, etc. But let's get real on how bad it is for you liver.

It's not like test is similar to Maalox and coats your liver or something, thus making the cycle "safe."



needtogetaas said:
so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...


most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...



ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????


if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...



get off your high horse and answer the ???? then


:qt:
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
Yeh I understand what you are saying bigcracker. As far as sponging off them for my habits? Uh no I work 2 jobs to pay for any suppliments I use and my gym membership and my fridge is full but not for me I buy my own foods because I do not eat the same as them anymore.

I do understand what you are saying and I have thought about this a lot which is why I still read and talk about all this so I can get some sort of a plan. I am not justifying a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle because I live at home. What I was trying to say was that if I decide to do this while I live at home still then this would be easier for me and I stated why. This has nothing to do with not respecting the rules of the house and I also cant help the fact that I am not on my own with my job because I found otu i was color deficient. Which is also why I said now I have to basically sit back down and re plan and figure out what to do.

Trust me if I wanted to be a dumb fuck I could be going and buying all the anabolic androgenic steroids's that I wanted. And your right I do have it pretty fuckin good I am not gunna complain there. Which is also another reason why I have not purchased any AAS's and have also debated if I was ready or not.

I didnt say ok here is my order I just tracked it omfg its gunna be here in 1 day or w/e I just didnt understand why so many ppl would shun away a Dbol cycle for a first time user and say its too toxic or blah blah but here use it with some test and ur fine. That doesnt make sense to me.

But yeh I do understand as well as I can of where you are coming from. Obviously i didnt live your life but I do realize I have it good and I am not looking to gain a couple T-shirt muscles. I also never said that I didnt want to compete. Where I live I dont have the luxury of trainers and what not(not saying you do but i def dont really here) So it takes me a lot longer to make a decision on if I would ever want to pursue bodybuilding enough to compete and yeh I would like to.


Welp, thanks for hearing me out. But don't write off the fact that if your parents are providing you with anything, even a price break on rent(which you made no mention of), they are indirectly paying for your drugs or allowing them to be a part of your budget

It also sucks that you have something whack with your eyes. Shitty card you were dealt there, but the cops aren't going to give a shit about it if you get busted.

And how can you even say bringing illegal drugs into the house is within the boundaries of respecting house rule? Just because mom doesn't have a post it note on the fridge saying "no steroids in the house" doesn't mean it's not a house rule.

And as far as your aspirations to compete goes, at this point you are merely a cashier jockey at Mobile Gas Station telling me that you want to be president of Mobile Oil someday. You haven't tried juice or even competed naturally yet. You don't even know if you have the genetics to win a best chest contest at the local bar on 25 cent beer night, let alone step on stage in front of hundreds of people in your underwear to win a trophy without making a fool of yourself. You are plenty young enough to wait until you are out of the folks house to pursue these things. If I was given your environment I'd be spending my time sorting out the important things in life such as picking a career that will make your day to day life enjoyable as an adult. Perhaps you should consider a career that will allow you the time and lifestyle that will allow you to train and compete as well??? If you get sidetracked by bodybuilding and AAS, you could be comprimising the quality of your life in the future. I may sound like a hypocrite because I started training seriously at 19 and juicing at 21, but I wasn't fortunate enough to have the options that you have. If I were you I'd get your act together 1st. Then you can be as hardcore as your life allows. After all, bodybuilding has no retirement plan. Even if you are awesome, if you get sick or hurt you will be quickly forgotten. I advise you to take advantage of your parent's kindness by finding something to do with your life that you can fall back on if the bb dream isn't fulfilled. Luckily for me over the years I've developed the business savvy, knowledge, and personal skills to be a personal trainer. I'm self employed and worrk my own hours. I make a decent living working around 25 hrs a week at $40+/hr. Have you ever wondered why all bodybuilders don't train people??? It's because they're too self absorbed to care about anyone else. With your attitude and sense of entitlement to the things your parents provide for you, there is no way you will be able to convince any anyone that you are capable of helping them achieve their fitness goals. You need to quash that attitude asap and be accountable for the choices that you make in life. Selfishness is not an attractive trait but is all too prevalent in bb.


I know a guy that's 44 and used to be a pro bb. I won't mention his name as he or someone that knows him could read this. Wanna know what he's doing now??? He's making $120 a night as a bouncer at a titty bar and his boss is 25 years old. I have a word for guys like him. I'll give you a hint. It starts with the letter "L" and rhymes with cruiser. Don't let that be you.
 
Hybrid - He's not saying that you need to compete and all that to be legit. He's saying that maybe you can wait on taking the gear until you are out of their house so that you can do it the right way.

Whatever you are looking to gain, beach muscles, 500 pound squat, getting you dick sucked by some chick that likes strong men because she didn't have a father figure, whatever....can wait until you can do this right because it isn't as urgent as someone who is competing in the 2008 Olympics or stepping on stage to make money in 8 weeks or something of that nature.

Also I think he is looking out for the wellbeing of your parents who could potentially get in trouble by you having illegal drugs in their house.

So think about doing this the right way. Which would include doing an injectable. Dude house prices are in the dumper. You might be able to afford one and then have a buddy or two move in as roommates. Then get solid advice on doing a solid first time cycle.

BTW- What is color deficient?

Hybridtheory2o said:
Yeh I understand what you are saying bigcracker. As far as sponging off them for my habits? Uh no I work 2 jobs to pay for any suppliments I use and my gym membership and my fridge is full but not for me I buy my own foods because I do not eat the same as them anymore.

I do understand what you are saying and I have thought about this a lot which is why I still read and talk about all this so I can get some sort of a plan. I am not justifying a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle because I live at home. What I was trying to say was that if I decide to do this while I live at home still then this would be easier for me and I stated why. This has nothing to do with not respecting the rules of the house and I also cant help the fact that I am not on my own with my job because I found otu i was color deficient. Which is also why I said now I have to basically sit back down and re plan and figure out what to do.

Trust me if I wanted to be a dumb fuck I could be going and buying all the anabolic androgenic steroids's that I wanted. And your right I do have it pretty fuckin good I am not gunna complain there. Which is also another reason why I have not purchased any AAS's and have also debated if I was ready or not.

I didnt say ok here is my order I just tracked it omfg its gunna be here in 1 day or w/e I just didnt understand why so many ppl would shun away a Dbol cycle for a first time user and say its too toxic or blah blah but here use it with some test and ur fine. That doesnt make sense to me.

But yeh I do understand as well as I can of where you are coming from. Obviously i didnt live your life but I do realize I have it good and I am not looking to gain a couple T-shirt muscles. I also never said that I didnt want to compete. Where I live I dont have the luxury of trainers and what not(not saying you do but i def dont really here) So it takes me a lot longer to make a decision on if I would ever want to pursue bodybuilding enough to compete and yeh I would like to.
 
BigCracker said:
Whoa!!! 3-4 cycles!!! That means he's probably had at least 1-2 years in the gym too!!! That's some serious street cred there. I better step right up and apologize for not taking this thread more seriously. I'm removing my baseball cap and bustin out my "in front of a judge and facing 15 years" manners now.

WTF??? I'm 40yrs old and have been training since I was 14. From age 19 on I was in the gym 6-7 days a week. At least 1/3 of those days I trained twice a day. I'd bet my virgin asshole that I've taken less time off since I was 19 than most guys here have taken off in 2007 alone. I even train on Thanksgiving day, X-mas Eve, X-mas, and New years day. While competing I went 5 of those 21 years in the gym without eating any refined sugar at all. I mean zero, zip, nada. I ate 3 cans of tuna a day for almost 2 years straight before I did my 1st show. I seldom ever miss my caloric requirements for any given day and the only way I'd do a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle was out of sheer desperation due to the lack of access to anything else. So before you start offering up your "bros" less than impressive 3-4 cycles at 34 years old stats, as if he's beyond hardcore and should not be questioned for wanting to take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, you might wanna re evaluate your opinions of those that think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is not the best choice for him.

LMAO...that was damn good.
 
I have seen many guys take d-bol only and they blew up like water balloons then shrunk back down to their previous size as soon as they came off. Not only is it obvious as hell you're on juice, it makes you look like a damn fool in 8 weeks when ur natty friends are stronger and bigger than u were 2 weeks ago.
 
perryscoon said:
I have seen many guys take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only and they blew up like water balloons then shrunk back down to their previous size as soon as they came off. Not only is it obvious as hell you're on juice, it makes you look like a damn fool in 8 weeks when ur natty friends are stronger and bigger than u were 2 weeks ago.


great post bro,I couldn't have said it better :)
 
perryscoon said:
I have seen many guys take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only and they blew up like water balloons then shrunk back down to their previous size as soon as they came off. Not only is it obvious as hell you're on juice, it makes you look like a damn fool in 8 weeks when ur natty friends are stronger and bigger than u were 2 weeks ago.

Sounds like all of the 17-20 yr old skeeeeered of needles-roid puppies in the gym I see every night. Big today, hiding in their bedrooms next month cuz they look like the HIV kicked in big time. They never had legs though. Gotta love the wear pants 24/7 option.
 
BigCracker said:
Whoa!!! 3-4 cycles!!! That means he's probably had at least 1-2 years in the gym too!!! That's some serious street cred there. I better step right up and apologize for not taking this thread more seriously. I'm removing my baseball cap and bustin out my "in front of a judge and facing 15 years" manners now.

WTF??? I'm 40yrs old and have been training since I was 14. From age 19 on I was in the gym 6-7 days a week. At least 1/3 of those days I trained twice a day. I'd bet my virgin asshole that I've taken less time off since I was 19 than most guys here have taken off in 2007 alone. I even train on Thanksgiving day, X-mas Eve, X-mas, and New years day. While competing I went 5 of those 21 years in the gym without eating any refined sugar at all. I mean zero, zip, nada. I ate 3 cans of tuna a day for almost 2 years straight before I did my 1st show. I seldom ever miss my caloric requirements for any given day and the only way I'd do a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle was out of sheer desperation due to the lack of access to anything else. So before you start offering up your "bros" less than impressive 3-4 cycles at 34 years old stats, as if he's beyond hardcore and should not be questioned for wanting to take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, you might wanna re evaluate your opinions of those that think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is not the best choice for him.


Virigin asshole. Yea BC we all know. The lord can make anything virgin again right?
 
Yeh you're right and I have been thinking about that. The fact that I do still live here is soemthing I have taken into consideration about being ready or not. I would feel terrible and selfish actually if I brought these in and they lost everthing because I wanted to gain more so maybe I will just wait. I thought about personal training but I would def be moving because most of them are kind of jokes around here and wouldnt make 40 bucks an hour. Another thing is yeh I have it good but I also have one parent telling me to go for it and the other saying dont even thik about ever being a personal trainer there is no money in it. So that also does make it hard.

As for tips on a first solid cycle I was originally gunna do like 10-12 weeks of 500mg a week of test enanthate. Anyways to answer your question about color deficiancy it means this: I can see colors but shade varations are hard. For instance an average eye color test at the docs with the book I can only do the first page and if you gave me a hue color test which means organizing colors from light to dark or dark to light i will royally fuck up the middle section as it depends more on shades of the brighter colors and ill have em all fuckin sideways and assbackwards and upside down and shit lol. Its not funny but oh well.

As for finding a career I think I can do that while doing bodybuilding. I may not be able to start competing yet but I think I can pursue it a little more hardcore than the cartoon superhero lookin guys at my gym or many other gyms and the losers that come in and invent their own useless excersizes and shit. So in a way I am becoming far more serious as I diet properly now and everything but just needs some minor improvement.

If my shtis all fucked up or dont make sense im really in a hurry to go do legs lol but i think u get the jist of what im trying to say and im not writing anyone off bc i am actually listening.
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
Yeh you're right and I have been thinking about that. The fact that I do still live here is soemthing I have taken into consideration about being ready or not. I would feel terrible and selfish actually if I brought these in and they lost everthing because I wanted to gain more so maybe I will just wait. I thought about personal training but I would def be moving because most of them are kind of jokes around here and wouldnt make 40 bucks an hour. Another thing is yeh I have it good but I also have one parent telling me to go for it and the other saying dont even thik about ever being a personal trainer there is no money in it. So that also does make it hard.

As for tips on a first solid cycle I was originally gunna do like 10-12 weeks of 500mg a week of test enanthate. Anyways to answer your question about color deficiancy it means this: I can see colors but shade varations are hard. For instance an average eye color test at the docs with the book I can only do the first page and if you gave me a hue color test which means organizing colors from light to dark or dark to light i will royally fuck up the middle section as it depends more on shades of the brighter colors and ill have em all fuckin sideways and assbackwards and upside down and shit lol. Its not funny but oh well.

As for finding a career I think I can do that while doing bodybuilding. I may not be able to start competing yet but I think I can pursue it a little more hardcore than the cartoon superhero lookin guys at my gym or many other gyms and the losers that come in and invent their own useless excersizes and shit. So in a way I am becoming far more serious as I diet properly now and everything but just needs some minor improvement.

If my shtis all fucked up or dont make sense im really in a hurry to go do legs lol but i think u get the jist of what im trying to say and im not writing anyone off bc i am actually listening.
I'm on my way out to train someone in 30 mins. I'll post back my thoughts later. I may have some good ideas for you. I wish I had someone like me to offer suggestions when I was your age cuz my folks weren't very supportive of my BB either. However, I have made a decent living off of BB in some way, shape, or form all of my life. I'd be even better off now if I didn't have to figure this shit on my own. lol
 
Yeh it seems to always do that. Ive seen a few others that ended up that way. I see both sides but I also see it as being an old school approach and those guys had good gains. Now watch someone look way into this and rip me a new one again lol.
 
BigCracker said:
I've been on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . No PCT - post cycle therapy - necessary if you stay on for life. Put the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.

^^Cut and pasted straight form Prince Charles' new work out book......Credit your sources Plagiarist !!!
 
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