halfaclue said:I've never done this so I have no clue by my boy wants to do 6 weeks of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only. What does he need for when he comes off and when should he start PCT - post cycle therapy - ? he is going to take a-dex during cycle.
hyp1 said:fuck that entirely,what's his/your age btw?
I get the feeling this is a teenager once again,that's scared shitless of needles.
he/you/who the fuck ever- will experience massive water retention because of estrogen sides at the start of the cycle,then shrink down to nothing at the end of the cycle when he stops taking the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - .
if he/you are under 21 you have no fucking business doing androgens in the first place.your body is flooded with testosterone naturally.
so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...flotown said:It depends if he wants to get big(like most guys here) then no. He will lose it all. But if he wants it purely for the performance enhancing abilities then hell yes. Dianabol - methandrostenolone - will put strenght on and he will be able to keep almost all of it with good PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . I quess he could do armidex and clomid. He may not need all that. That part I really don't want to say because I just don't know.
Some guys need to remember that not every guy who takes juice wants to be huge or a bodybuilder.

needtogetaas said:so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...
most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...
ya like that.matty420 said:right on the fucking money needto... right on the fucking money
yeah thats soo true.. i've been saying that for the longest time. why do people think that just because they added test to their cycle that the orals are going to be less harmful to them? it makes no fucking senseneedtogetaas said:ya like that.![]()
this is a wacky crazy post.this man is on a lot of drugs...please be advised.newbs do not do this at home.BigCracker said:I've been on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . No PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - necessary if you stay on for life. Put the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.

it would confuse any one.all you got to do is put 2 and 2 together and hmmm these guys are dumb dumbsHybridtheory2o said:Yeh I agree that doesnt make much sense for ppl to say dont take it alone its so bad and dangerous get some test but then they do what he said and frontload a cycle with 50mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for the first 4-6 weeks. Kinda confuses me.

Sorry but this user has already received this gift before. One can only have this once! Please select another recepient. Thank you!BigCracker said:I've been on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . No PCT - post cycle therapy - necessary if you stay on for life. Put the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.
The user 'Hybridtheory2o' has been gifted a platinum membership!Hybridtheory2o said:Damn :/ I was really hoping that sometime in the future I would be tossin a handful into my frosted flakes every morning.
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shit that sucks I tried to give you a free plat.
lmaoBigCracker said:It's the thought that counts bro. Thanks. I owe you a cyber reach around with a nutsack tickle.
needtogetaas said:this is a wacky crazy post.this man is on a lot of drugs...please be advised.newbs do not do this at home.
well sept the jerking off part even I do that.
im with you needto. if it aint a kid afraid of hypodermics then i say go for it again assuming the indvidual is KNOWLEDGEABLE and experienced. not some guy \ kid looking for "quick muscles." i am wrapping up an all oral cycle (var) and i have accomplished what i set out to do. i have not done a cycle in 2 years and i wanted to put on a little mass and lose a bf percentage or two. mission accomplished. i have pics in my gallery. i am 6'4 240 and 7% according to calipers, i know these are notoriously inaccurate but none the less i am single digit. i can see both sides but i think it is contextual. if it is an experienced, knowledgeable of age user....yes. if it is a little punk trying to get instant muscles.....no.needtogetaas said:so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...
most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...
ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????
if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...
layinback said:im with you needto. if it aint a kid afraid of hypodermics then i say go for it again assuming the indvidual is KNOWLEDGEABLE and experienced. not some guy kid looking for "quick muscles." i am wrapping up an all oral cycle (Anavar - oxandrolone - ) and i have accomplished what i set out to do. i have not done a cycle in 2 years and i wanted to put on a little mass and lose a bf percentage or two. mission accomplished. i have pics in my gallery. i am 6'4 240 and 7% according to calipers, i know these are notoriously inaccurate but none the less i am single digit. i can see both sides but i think it is contextual. if it is an experienced, knowledgeable of age user....yes. if it is a little punk trying to get instant muscles.....no.
layinback said:im with you needto. if it aint a kid afraid of hypodermics then i say go for it again assuming the indvidual is KNOWLEDGEABLE and experienced. not some guy kid looking for "quick muscles." i am wrapping up an all oral cycle (Anavar - oxandrolone - ) and i have accomplished what i set out to do. i have not done a cycle in 2 years and i wanted to put on a little mass and lose a bf percentage or two. mission accomplished. i have pics in my gallery. i am 6'4 240 and 7% according to calipers, i know these are notoriously inaccurate but none the less i am single digit. i can see both sides but i think it is contextual. if it is an experienced, knowledgeable of age user....yes. if it is a little punk trying to get instant muscles.....no.
LOL. yeah, funny but true.BigCracker said:OK, so Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is fine for about 10% of the guys posting here. I can believe that.
Hybridtheory2o said:See I am in the starting with oral boat. I am 21 been training on and off for a few years and I have taken it real serious these past few months. I think I have a pretty excellent natural build to work off of. I live at home with the rents and prolly will for the next 1-2 years until I re-figure out what I wanna do with my life. Long story but some shit fell through. It would be easier for me to stash a few bottles of pills rather than hide alcohol pads,syringes,vials or satchets and have to worry about getting all the first time injections right. Id rather wait to do that where I can do it in the comfort of my own place.
Im not scared of needles at all I am used to daily injections. I had food allergies as a kid so I used to take a shot every day and when getting tested I could take about 30 pokes or so in about 3-4hrs to test lol. Kind of got used to being a pin cushion so me for starting orals is totally different.
Ive had some knowledgeable bros helpin me trying to figure one out and I think in a few months ill finally be ready to dabble for my first time in anabolic androgenic steroids's. Pretty fuckin excited aint gunna bullshit![]()
needtogetaas said:so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...
most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...
ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????
if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...
get off your high horse and answer the ???? then
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needtogetaas said:so let me see the science behind this theory that he will lose it all...
most of the time I see these dame all oral threads and people just come in here guns blazing talking this and that and arrr arrrr arrr do some injectables you pussy,but no one ever explains them self.I here people saying all oral cycles are bad for your liver then see them go do the same amount of orals for the same amount of time in there next cycle lmfao so why is it so bad by its self at 50mg ed for 6 weeks but you can go throw it in your next cycle and its fine.stfu and look at yourself...
ok some one here with a brain please tell me
why cant you take a oral cycle and recover just fine and keep gains with proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ???
why can you take 50mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ed for 4-8 weeks during a cycle and its ok for your liver but its not ok to take by its self????
if diet and training are good for both men and one man gains 15lbs using a oral
anabolic androgenic steroids and the other man gains 15 bls using a oral anabolic androgenic steroids they both do the same proper PCT - post cycle therapy - why dose the man on orals loose all his gains and the man using injectables dose not please explain the science behind this for me...
get off your high horse and answer the ???? then
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Hybridtheory2o said:Yeh I understand what you are saying bigcracker. As far as sponging off them for my habits? Uh no I work 2 jobs to pay for any suppliments I use and my gym membership and my fridge is full but not for me I buy my own foods because I do not eat the same as them anymore.
I do understand what you are saying and I have thought about this a lot which is why I still read and talk about all this so I can get some sort of a plan. I am not justifying a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle because I live at home. What I was trying to say was that if I decide to do this while I live at home still then this would be easier for me and I stated why. This has nothing to do with not respecting the rules of the house and I also cant help the fact that I am not on my own with my job because I found otu i was color deficient. Which is also why I said now I have to basically sit back down and re plan and figure out what to do.
Trust me if I wanted to be a dumb fuck I could be going and buying all the anabolic androgenic steroids's that I wanted. And your right I do have it pretty fuckin good I am not gunna complain there. Which is also another reason why I have not purchased any AAS's and have also debated if I was ready or not.
I didnt say ok here is my order I just tracked it omfg its gunna be here in 1 day or w/e I just didnt understand why so many ppl would shun away a Dbol cycle for a first time user and say its too toxic or blah blah but here use it with some test and ur fine. That doesnt make sense to me.
But yeh I do understand as well as I can of where you are coming from. Obviously i didnt live your life but I do realize I have it good and I am not looking to gain a couple T-shirt muscles. I also never said that I didnt want to compete. Where I live I dont have the luxury of trainers and what not(not saying you do but i def dont really here) So it takes me a lot longer to make a decision on if I would ever want to pursue bodybuilding enough to compete and yeh I would like to.
Hybridtheory2o said:Yeh I understand what you are saying bigcracker. As far as sponging off them for my habits? Uh no I work 2 jobs to pay for any suppliments I use and my gym membership and my fridge is full but not for me I buy my own foods because I do not eat the same as them anymore.
I do understand what you are saying and I have thought about this a lot which is why I still read and talk about all this so I can get some sort of a plan. I am not justifying a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle because I live at home. What I was trying to say was that if I decide to do this while I live at home still then this would be easier for me and I stated why. This has nothing to do with not respecting the rules of the house and I also cant help the fact that I am not on my own with my job because I found otu i was color deficient. Which is also why I said now I have to basically sit back down and re plan and figure out what to do.
Trust me if I wanted to be a dumb fuck I could be going and buying all the anabolic androgenic steroids's that I wanted. And your right I do have it pretty fuckin good I am not gunna complain there. Which is also another reason why I have not purchased any AAS's and have also debated if I was ready or not.
I didnt say ok here is my order I just tracked it omfg its gunna be here in 1 day or w/e I just didnt understand why so many ppl would shun away a Dbol cycle for a first time user and say its too toxic or blah blah but here use it with some test and ur fine. That doesnt make sense to me.
But yeh I do understand as well as I can of where you are coming from. Obviously i didnt live your life but I do realize I have it good and I am not looking to gain a couple T-shirt muscles. I also never said that I didnt want to compete. Where I live I dont have the luxury of trainers and what not(not saying you do but i def dont really here) So it takes me a lot longer to make a decision on if I would ever want to pursue bodybuilding enough to compete and yeh I would like to.
BigCracker said:Whoa!!! 3-4 cycles!!! That means he's probably had at least 1-2 years in the gym too!!! That's some serious street cred there. I better step right up and apologize for not taking this thread more seriously. I'm removing my baseball cap and bustin out my "in front of a judge and facing 15 years" manners now.
WTF??? I'm 40yrs old and have been training since I was 14. From age 19 on I was in the gym 6-7 days a week. At least 1/3 of those days I trained twice a day. I'd bet my virgin asshole that I've taken less time off since I was 19 than most guys here have taken off in 2007 alone. I even train on Thanksgiving day, X-mas Eve, X-mas, and New years day. While competing I went 5 of those 21 years in the gym without eating any refined sugar at all. I mean zero, zip, nada. I ate 3 cans of tuna a day for almost 2 years straight before I did my 1st show. I seldom ever miss my caloric requirements for any given day and the only way I'd do a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle was out of sheer desperation due to the lack of access to anything else. So before you start offering up your "bros" less than impressive 3-4 cycles at 34 years old stats, as if he's beyond hardcore and should not be questioned for wanting to take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, you might wanna re evaluate your opinions of those that think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is not the best choice for him.
perryscoon said:I have seen many guys take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only and they blew up like water balloons then shrunk back down to their previous size as soon as they came off. Not only is it obvious as hell you're on juice, it makes you look like a damn fool in 8 weeks when ur natty friends are stronger and bigger than u were 2 weeks ago.
perryscoon said:I have seen many guys take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only and they blew up like water balloons then shrunk back down to their previous size as soon as they came off. Not only is it obvious as hell you're on juice, it makes you look like a damn fool in 8 weeks when ur natty friends are stronger and bigger than u were 2 weeks ago.
BigCracker said:Whoa!!! 3-4 cycles!!! That means he's probably had at least 1-2 years in the gym too!!! That's some serious street cred there. I better step right up and apologize for not taking this thread more seriously. I'm removing my baseball cap and bustin out my "in front of a judge and facing 15 years" manners now.
WTF??? I'm 40yrs old and have been training since I was 14. From age 19 on I was in the gym 6-7 days a week. At least 1/3 of those days I trained twice a day. I'd bet my virgin asshole that I've taken less time off since I was 19 than most guys here have taken off in 2007 alone. I even train on Thanksgiving day, X-mas Eve, X-mas, and New years day. While competing I went 5 of those 21 years in the gym without eating any refined sugar at all. I mean zero, zip, nada. I ate 3 cans of tuna a day for almost 2 years straight before I did my 1st show. I seldom ever miss my caloric requirements for any given day and the only way I'd do a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle was out of sheer desperation due to the lack of access to anything else. So before you start offering up your "bros" less than impressive 3-4 cycles at 34 years old stats, as if he's beyond hardcore and should not be questioned for wanting to take Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, you might wanna re evaluate your opinions of those that think Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is not the best choice for him.
I'm on my way out to train someone in 30 mins. I'll post back my thoughts later. I may have some good ideas for you. I wish I had someone like me to offer suggestions when I was your age cuz my folks weren't very supportive of my BB either. However, I have made a decent living off of BB in some way, shape, or form all of my life. I'd be even better off now if I didn't have to figure this shit on my own. lolHybridtheory2o said:Yeh you're right and I have been thinking about that. The fact that I do still live here is soemthing I have taken into consideration about being ready or not. I would feel terrible and selfish actually if I brought these in and they lost everthing because I wanted to gain more so maybe I will just wait. I thought about personal training but I would def be moving because most of them are kind of jokes around here and wouldnt make 40 bucks an hour. Another thing is yeh I have it good but I also have one parent telling me to go for it and the other saying dont even thik about ever being a personal trainer there is no money in it. So that also does make it hard.
As for tips on a first solid cycle I was originally gunna do like 10-12 weeks of 500mg a week of test enanthate. Anyways to answer your question about color deficiancy it means this: I can see colors but shade varations are hard. For instance an average eye color test at the docs with the book I can only do the first page and if you gave me a hue color test which means organizing colors from light to dark or dark to light i will royally fuck up the middle section as it depends more on shades of the brighter colors and ill have em all fuckin sideways and assbackwards and upside down and shit lol. Its not funny but oh well.
As for finding a career I think I can do that while doing bodybuilding. I may not be able to start competing yet but I think I can pursue it a little more hardcore than the cartoon superhero lookin guys at my gym or many other gyms and the losers that come in and invent their own useless excersizes and shit. So in a way I am becoming far more serious as I diet properly now and everything but just needs some minor improvement.
If my shtis all fucked up or dont make sense im really in a hurry to go do legs lol but i think u get the jist of what im trying to say and im not writing anyone off bc i am actually listening.
BigCracker said:I've been on Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only 18 years straight and my "kidney" works fine. Great stuff that Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . No PCT - post cycle therapy - necessary if you stay on for life. Put the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in a bowl-like 100 or so. Add 2% milk. Eat like rice crispies. Add a banana for extra potassium. Train hard. Take vitamins. Masturbate furiously every 3 hours. Repeat.
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