D-bol Only Cycle

[BigCracker]

wow you sure do talk alot, What is with you, The whole thing started cause your a fuck that trash talks people for giving their opinion, Im rather large for my age but im sure your bigger by the way it sounds, im 6'2 220 and 13 bf and No I wouldnt back donw from you . I dont try to fight someone or act like im going to over the net, its not like we are going to ever meet so whats the point of even talking about fighting. And ya I never have met any proffessional bodybuilders wish I could, but nope never have. And ya I thought I had High blood pressre and was worried so I posted a thread. I seen your pics by the way and ya I will complement you, it looks like you have done a great job. I just dont understand why your a prick. My goal is to get to 245 10% bf, but I hope i dotn ever get the bloated head like you when i get there.

I'm not a prick. It's called tough love. Guys are so fucking sensitive these days and it drives me nuts. It's no wonder when we now live in a society that finds it unacceptable to keep score at a kid's t-ball game so nobody gets their feelings hurt. The other day I talked to this guy that's a high school gym teacher. He says the rules of dodgeball have been changed so nobody ever gets "out". They just switich teams. Gently giving my opinion will go in one ear and out the other for most guys. However, if I don't sugar coat it, it will evoke a reponse-just like it did with you. A negative response is better than no response at all in my book. Honestly bro, how biug of a dick can I be? I train people for a living. I have to exercise restraint in my sharp tongued views to make a living every day-and it gets frustrating cuz most peeps hear only what they wanna hear. However online, the leash is off and I'm free to spit my opinion as I wish-and sometimes it just requires a little venom to get my point across. I'm sure there are guys on this board that think I'm a dick-without a doubt. But take a look at my K hits. Those weren't bought with $ from the K store. I'm not even a Platty. So somebody here must value my opinion-even if you don't.

 

[mojeas95]

wow that guy got pissed off of that one...im only 23 years old and i graduated from the university of buffalo with a bachelors in science degree for the physics program and grauated with honors, my actual grade point average was a 4.0...im currently attending graduate school at UB and getting paid at the same time to study the velocity of colliding electrons in a matter field. its call atomic structural physics. so u may have 15 years on me but i bet ya you dont know what a muon is, and sure ive taken juice before, and sure i microwave my biscuts, and sure i make instant mashed potatoes for me and my girl, but dont think cuz im lazy that im lazy!...laziness is relative...and if i were him, i would take 500mg of test e for 12 weeks and then proper pct and be done with it...he will feel freakin great, inject twice a week at 250 mg a pop and he will be golden...and remember, your generation gave birth to george w bush, need i say more...?and if in 15 years you wanted me to look like a boyscout then i would have to think that your a catholic priest..

 

[Sweetsrcool]

hey I have no prob with you, I was just upset and venting when you seemd to trash on the opinion I gave, I never said that the only way to do anything is my way, I was just saying from what I have used and seen and by my reasearch what I thought was best, if someone disagrees thats ok , but no one needs to be trashed for there opinion, were all here to give are own opinions. That doesnt mean anyone is stupid for giving there opinion (unless it is really retarded). People can just take it or leave it. To be honest with you I cold probably get some tips from you in the future, cause im acutally getting into personal training and hope I can learn and grow so I can have a succesfull future in it. I wonder if test has anything to do with all the arguments on here

 

[youngbuck22]

Oral Only Cycles are dangerous because the sides effects are worse than Injectable.

For example, Liver Problems with Oral Cycles and also most importantly Blood Pressure Problems with Oral Cycles with Dbol , Anadrol.

When I tried Dbol 50mg Ed with Test E. I had insane headaches, it made me weak as hell, i didnt know what was going on and realize it was the DBOL. i stopped the Dbol immediatly.

Test E didnt do anything like that to me, Test E was harmless for men, even at high doses like 750mg/week (1 shot per week), I also realize that you have to find a proper balance between Testosterone and Estrogen.

Without Anti E like Aromasin or Arimidex, Test E will cause high blood pressure which is very uncomfortable. When I took 2 Aromasin, i had another problem to deal with it, which was Low Estrogen which causes depression.

Then I had to find proper dosing , take 1 Aromasin which limited bloat but still BP would find its way somehow, so id be forced to eat a cleaner diet.

So the point is, AAS are very complicated and theres many many many more risks than ppl tell you. Injecting has TONZ OF RISKS ASSOCIATED with it. And dont listen to people who say "you are a pussy if you take orals and not inject". Injecting HAS MANY RISKS. With injecting there are huge risks like getting an infection, hitting a vein , injecting wrong spot, getting insane pain in the inject spot, collapsing from low blood pressure, injecting air bubbles can kill you. Injecting IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO and has many risks associated with it.

Orals , you pop the pill, theres no risk, except for Liver and Blood Pressure.

So people have to understand the logic in FIRST STARTING WITH ORALS and then moving into injectables. Injectables are no walk in the park.

You can be a PRo at injecting, and it can be your 100th time injecting TEst E and then at 101st time injecting, you hit a Vein you collapse, or you get an infection or an abscess etcc. You have to be careful every single time.

This is a very dangerous thing.

Just my 2 cents.

Awesome post. Thats why i wanted to just do a d-bol cyycle only. I know the gains will go, but who knows i might keep some.

Injectables got wayy to many risks involved, thats why i thought start off with oral d-bol, then maybe consider test down the line some time,

 

[BigCracker]

I wonder if test has anything to do with all the arguments on here

You can bet your life on it.

Now we've got Albert Einstein giving us advice on 1/2 gram a week too? WTF? And how old do you guys think I am? My generation gave birth to Hillary Duff and Average Lavigne , not Bush Jr. I'm not sure which is more shameworthy though?

And what's up with the political statements and slams on the Catholic church???-probably a Juiced Jew w/ a Napoleon Complex that drives a Benz??? That's like the opposite of FUBU.

 

[Nelson Montana]

im only 16 years old, have a good diet, and have been training for a year now. my question is
should i take d-bol alone since im only 16 and when i get older add test or should i just wait til i get older to start my first cycle?

You need to be training for years before you can benefit from gear. Check out UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST from www.proteinfactory.com If you don't grow a bunch from that at your age you won't grow from anything.

 

[digit0x]

um cracker there is a big difference between 500 mg and a gram. And it is your OPINION that 500mg is to much. That is the most common dosage for test, Please let when giving your opinion let everyone know so they know what you are saying is biased to your opinion.

Sweets, cracker is right. Especially if its your first cycle 250 test a week is plenty. ask slat too, he'll swear by low dose test because he still lives by it. as for myself, that was my first cycle and I gained tons.

Besides, when a lot of bros here suggest 500/week test e, they are often giving the advice based on a couple of assumptions:

1. You have absolutely plateaued with knowledgable nutrition and training. Meaning, your frame is overfilled.

2. Your goals coincide with theirs. People rarely give advice juxtaposition.

And when he says a gram a week, he's adding your test and deca. 500 + 500 = 1000. Now that may be right for you, but I would strongly discourage a first cycle be anything near that as a great deal can be acheived with half.

Oh yea, and unless you want to be stuck at 5'5, dont even think about steroids at 16 cheif.

 

[digit0x]

You can bet your life on it.

Now we've got Albert Einstein giving us advice on 1/2 gram a week too? WTF? And how old do you guys think I am? My generation gave birth to Hillary Duff and Average Lavigne , not Bush Jr. I'm not sure which is more shameworthy though?

And what's up with the political statements and slams on the Catholic church???-probably a Juiced Jew w/ a Napoleon Complex that drives a Benz??? That's like the opposite of FUBU.

Shit cracker they think your 70.

 

[chordz]

Oral Only Cycles are dangerous because the sides effects are worse than Injectable.

For example, Liver Problems with Oral Cycles and also most importantly Blood Pressure Problems with Oral Cycles with Dbol , Anadrol.

When I tried Dbol 50mg Ed with Test E. I had insane headaches, it made me weak as hell, i didnt know what was going on and realize it was the DBOL. i stopped the Dbol immediatly.

Test E didnt do anything like that to me, Test E was harmless for men, even at high doses like 750mg/week (1 shot per week), I also realize that you have to find a proper balance between Testosterone and Estrogen.

Without Anti E like Aromasin or Arimidex, Test E will cause high blood pressure which is very uncomfortable. When I took 2 Aromasin, i had another problem to deal with it, which was Low Estrogen which causes depression.

Then I had to find proper dosing , take 1 Aromasin which limited bloat but still BP would find its way somehow, so id be forced to eat a cleaner diet.

So the point is, AAS are very complicated and theres many many many more risks than ppl tell you. Injecting has TONZ OF RISKS ASSOCIATED with it. And dont listen to people who say "you are a pussy if you take orals and not inject". Injecting HAS MANY RISKS. With injecting there are huge risks like getting an infection, hitting a vein , injecting wrong spot, getting insane pain in the inject spot, collapsing from low blood pressure, injecting air bubbles can kill you. Injecting IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO and has many risks associated with it.

Orals , you pop the pill, theres no risk, except for Liver and Blood Pressure.

So people have to understand the logic in FIRST STARTING WITH ORALS and then moving into injectables. Injectables are no walk in the park.

You can be a PRo at injecting, and it can be your 100th time injecting TEst E and then at 101st time injecting, you hit a Vein you collapse, or you get an infection or an abscess etcc. You have to be careful every single time.

This is a very dangerous thing.

Just my 2 cents.

Hey bro when it comes to oral cycles using dbol for example, people need to realize how strong it really is. I can see why 50mg did you in. People will see results using lower doses and sides can be kept to a minimum. Liver problems will be debated forever but if you are using high dose for long periods you may run into some issues but some won't. It is afterall one of the most anabolic substances out there, it just needs to be used right. The brand you are using can make a world of difference too, like HG metanabol the best dbol anywhere will put quality size with minimal doses.

 

[mr.nitro]

You need to be training for years before you can benefit from gear. Check out UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST from www.proteinfactory.com If you don't grow a bunch from that at your age you won't grow from anything.

this fuckin place is turning into a md magazine. nothing but adds, and people trying to sell shit. damn! its such a turnoff to an otherwise decent board.