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im running 500 test and 500 deca this week and my stuff has been and still is rock hard
D-bol Only Cycle
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For now.....
When you go OFF cycle is when the problems usually begin.
It's a great cycle! I have ran 3 such cycles. I'm on HRT now but you're not. Just be aware of the very real side off noodle dick.
It's always your final decision.
When you go OFF cycle is when the problems usually begin.
It's a great cycle! I have ran 3 such cycles. I'm on HRT now but you're not. Just be aware of the very real side off noodle dick.
It's always your final decision.
youngbuck22
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halfcenturian said:
noodle dick? deca dick?
lol i think i'll just add some test cyp. 500mg
no1_brawler
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Add in Test. But just so u know i have a friend who went on a Dbol only cycle for 6 weeks with no PCT. He was takin 15mg ED and gained only 2kg but all his lifts really shot up and he kept all the strength gains afterwards with no PCT.
BigCracker
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Retard Alert!!! Ding! Ding Ding!. All oral cycles are a big no-no. And 500 mgs of test a week is too much. Add 200 mgs and do your dbol as originally planned. Too many young guys are on these 1 gram/wk + cycles. You will have more sides and are wasting your $. Relying primarily on the drugs for gains instead of your diet and training will fuck you in the long run. You also are more susceptible to injury as your tendon strength doesn't increase as quickly as muscle strength. I think the problem on this board is that the average AS user is about 25-26 yrs old and they're not used to waiting for or working hard for anything. I remember a time when 200 mgs of Cyp/wk and 25 mgs dbol a day was considered pretty hardcore. These days that's some guy's PCT.
Sweetsrcool
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um cracker there is a big difference between 500 mg and a gram. And it is your OPINION that 500mg is to much. That is the most common dosage for test, Please let when giving your opinion let everyone know so they know what you are saying is biased to your opinion.
go2failure
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Considering muscle is 80+% water, of course muscle lost will equate to water and vice versa.
Compounds whether oral or injectable have no effects on the the loss of muscle--dbol, winstrol, primo are all injectable as well. Esters and planning around them are the only contributing factor to how fast someone loses or ends up maintaining the gains made during the cycle.
Obviously, slower esters will gradually breakdown after administration, rather than be out of the system within a matter of hours. However, this does not make injectables better than orals--it simply means orals are just as capable if bridged at their conclusion or pyramided down to prevent such a hard and immediate crash. The body has more time to react to dwindling test-E over two weeks from the last injection as opposed to dbol suddenly stopping. This is why crashes are harder on most oral users because they assume that immediately stopping dbol and starting PCT will save their gains. This is half true.
When talking about PCT, it is true that the external hormones must be gone or extremely low to have an effective comeback, as the signals to produce natural test will be suppressed. However, in my experience, a gradual reduction in compounds up to the point of no suppresion will begin putting the body back into homeostasis when talking about maintaining gains. Keep in mind, maintaing gains and restoring natural testosterone are both directly and indirectly linked.
Compounds whether oral or injectable have no effects on the the loss of muscle--dbol, winstrol, primo are all injectable as well. Esters and planning around them are the only contributing factor to how fast someone loses or ends up maintaining the gains made during the cycle.
Obviously, slower esters will gradually breakdown after administration, rather than be out of the system within a matter of hours. However, this does not make injectables better than orals--it simply means orals are just as capable if bridged at their conclusion or pyramided down to prevent such a hard and immediate crash. The body has more time to react to dwindling test-E over two weeks from the last injection as opposed to dbol suddenly stopping. This is why crashes are harder on most oral users because they assume that immediately stopping dbol and starting PCT will save their gains. This is half true.
When talking about PCT, it is true that the external hormones must be gone or extremely low to have an effective comeback, as the signals to produce natural test will be suppressed. However, in my experience, a gradual reduction in compounds up to the point of no suppresion will begin putting the body back into homeostasis when talking about maintaining gains. Keep in mind, maintaing gains and restoring natural testosterone are both directly and indirectly linked.
BigCracker
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Sweetsrcool said:
Common for who noob? Not where I come from. In my world we use the drugs to break plateaus, not build up to them. Maybe I'm old school? If ya wanna compare pics and let the guy decide who he should listen to I'm game???
Sweetsrcool
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whats your age? im sure you have a good 15 years on me, Thats alot of years to be able to train, And I dont care about pics, the truth is wherever you look the most common cycle includes test and its at 500 a week. And what makes you think I am a noob? cause i dont have as many posts as you, you sound like an idiot.
BigCracker
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Sweetsrcool said:
15 yrs on you? All the more reason to listen to me and not you. If ya want, I got a pic of me at age 20 and natty that will probably blow you away. So post up bitch!!!
Also Mr Information Age, 99% of all the 411 on any subject you research in books, online, etc is absolute bullshit. You aren't patient enough to distinguish the good 411 from the bad-so you blindly follow the rest like mindless sheep.
You younger guys don't have patience for shit-which is why half of the guys I know in their 20's say they have ADHD. When I was a kid, I remember waiting 40 mins for the oven to warm up, and another 45 minutes to cook a Hungry Man Dinner to eat. You guys Nuke a meal and it's done in 5 minutes. If I wanted to write a friend across the country, I busted out a pad of paper, a pen , wrote the letter, addressed it, stamped it, mailed it, and waited weeks for a response. You guys can type a letter on your PC and deliver it instantly and have a response in minutes. If I wanted to watch a tv show, I had to schedule my life around it. You guys Tivo it and can watch it whenever. You can even FF through commercials so your short attention span isn't disrupted. Same goes for roids-you guys pound massive dosages, half ass train/diet, refuse to work your legs because they require too much effort, and end up looking like some legless t-shirt muscled geek. You may impress the people that don't know any better-but you won't impress me because most of you look like you're some bloated back street boy riding a chicken.
Granted, I've used my fair share of juice over the years, but my body didn't come in a bottle. It came as a result of hard work and perserverance-the drugs just added the finishing touch.
Just because 500 mgs seems to be the norm in your world, doesn't mean it's right. And telling me I sound like an idiot is ludicrous. Another piss poor trait of the younger generation. No respect for anyone-even their more knowledgable elders or someone that could squish them like a grape. So stay on your 1000 mgs/wk. I can almost guarantee you that in 15 years I will still make you look like a boy scout-if you don't die of a heart attack or kidney failure 1st.
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