Cycle suggestion/info needed

[gallobolan]

I have been off for 3 months and I am going to start my fourth cycle soon.I am writing this post to share my expirience, and ask for advice on my next upcoming cycle.First i will tell my AS history.My first cycle was 3 years ago(I started at 5'9" 158lbs, 10% bf) and did the following in a 10wk cycle-

180 pink 5mg d-bol (3 ed for 6wks)
20 primos(2 a wk for 10 wks)
10ml enth test 200mg/1ml (200mg wk for 8 wks(doubled up on wks 4 and 5))
1 6mg serostim hgh 7vial box (4 ius a day/5 days on/2 off)

I ended my first cycle at 178lbs , 8% bf,and did not drop below 168,or go above 10% during the time i did not juice up.I started my second cycle around 8-9 months ago(almost 2 and 1/2 years after my first).I started at 168 lbs,10%bf and did the following-

wk 1-8,sust 500mg(750mg wk 4,1000mg wk 5,750mg wk6)
wk4-8,100mgs test suspention eod
wk1-10, 300mgs tt Deca
wk4-8, 25mg proviron ed
wk 1-10+,4 ius serostim hgh 5days on/2 off

I ended my second cycle at 186lbs 8%bf, but dropped down to 178lbs very quick.I did the serostim on into my next cycle(third cycle),and jumped it to 6ius a day when i started my third.I started my third cycle at 178lbs,8% bf and did the following-

wks 1-12 400mgs primo depot
wks 1-8 upjohn winny 50mg eod
wks 3-8 75mg eod tt trenbol
wks 1-12 serostim hgh 6ius

I ended my 3rd cycle at 182lbs 7%bf.It is 3 months later and i am 172 8% bf and I have access to the following-

12 sust 250
300 5mg pink anabol
3 finaplix h carts
30 winny amps
10 norma deca 200mg
100ml Kynoselen(I decided/why not try it since it only cost $17)
100 proviron
30 novildex
(I will be getting clomid and hcg this time, but have not yet)

i am looking to bulk up past my max of 186.My eating habits have gotten better and i am prepared to have my fridge and freezer filled with all the right foods to grow through out my cycle along with myoplex deluxe shakes at least twice a day and ensure plus shakes(ensure is tastey).I know it is very important to eat,eat, and eat some more.I know that i should not shoot the deca and fina together, but will be open to any suggestions.I was thinking about adding insulin to my next cycle to help break my past max wght of 186lbs.Of course i will get edjucated b4 using insulin if i choose to do so/any suggestions?Any suggestions on how to schedual my next cycle with what i have access to would be greatly appriciated, and how should i throw the insulin in if i do it.I dont have the loot to get hgh this time around ....
Should i get more test for this cycle?Anything need to be added?Please share your knowledge if you are expirienced.
Thanks in advance

 

[gallobolan]

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[barnes3]

That is alot of gear brother.... in my opinion.. some of it would not be needed unless you were planning on running two cycles back to back.

I will take a stab at it from my past experiences:

1-12 Sus 250 a wk
1-4 Anadrol 50mg ED<----not sure on this dosage, figure it is
similar to dbol dosage
4-10 Deca 400 wk
8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
1-16 Proviron 1 tablet ED
14-20 Fina 75mg ED

Do not know how to run the Kyno, use the nolva if you need it, and use the HCG/Clomid 3 weeks post Fina.

This is a good starting point. Others will come along and help refine or completely scratch this plan. I just wanted to try and help.


barnes3

 

[gallobolan]

I dont have any anadrol.I am most likely not going to use the deca in this next cycle.
I was thinkin something like this-

wk 1-2, and 7-8 - 250mg sust
wk 3-6 - 500mg sust
wk 1-6 - 30-40mg anabol(pink d-bol)ed
wk 1-2, and 11-12 - Fina 75mg eod
wk 3-10 - Fina 75mg ed
wk 4-12 - 50mg winny eod
wk 1-12 Kynoselen 1cc to 3cc a day(been shooting 1cc a day off cycle and i am liking it)

Not sure how i will run the noveldex and proviron yet.I may need to purchase more proviron to run it the way i want,(through out my cycle).I will run clomid and hcg post cycle.I dont think i will be using the deca in this cycle.Should i get more test for this cycle?more sust?How should i mix in insulin if i choose to do so?Is this a good bulking cycle?I know winny is not used for bulking, but it keeps my face from getting bloated and gives me that model look.I know that most will only use fina for 6 wks at the end of a cycle, and some go as long as 6 months on,but I am planning on a long fina cycle of 12 weeks.Of course i will have alot of milk thisle ++...... to take.Does anyone with expirience think this long of a cycle is not a good idea?Any advice will help...Thanks

 

[barnes3]

My bad... was trying to remember all the substances without looking too much.. break in my concentration.

In my personal opinion, I think you would be wasting your winny and fina if you ran them together. I would run the the winny as you have it, then when you finish the winny then do Fina as you have planned it out by itself for the 12 weeks. Then do your therapy 3 weeks afterwards. I just think things would work out better that way.

Not to worry.. you will add a good 15-20 lbs with the amount of test you have now. I only used it for 6 weeks@ 250wk and gained 20lbs. I used dbol 1-4wks. My total cycle was 14wks

barnes3

 

[gallobolan]

Any help?Wisdom?suggestions?

 

[manny78]

I dont have any anadrol.I am most likely not going to use the deca in this next cycle.
I was thinkin something like this-

wk 1-2, and 7-8 - 250mg sust
wk 3-6 - 500mg sust
wk 1-6 - 30-40mg anabol(pink d-bol)ed
wk 1-2, and 11-12 - Fina 75mg eod
wk 3-10 - Fina 75mg ed
wk 4-12 - 50mg winny eod
wk 1-12 Kynoselen 1cc to 3cc a day(been shooting 1cc a day off cycle and i am liking it)

May I suggest you something ?

Sust 500 mg week 1-10
Dbols 30 mg ED week 1-6
Winny 50 mg ED week 7-12
Fina 75 mg ED week 8-12

Milk Thistle at 1500 mg ED.

 

[guards]

May I suggest you something ?

Sust 500 mg week 1-10
Dbols 30 mg ED week 1-6
Winny 50 mg ED week 7-12
Fina 75 mg ED week 8-12

Milk Thistle at 1500 mg ED.

I LIKE it

 

[gallobolan]

Thanks for your suggestion.I want to do at least 8 to 12 weeks of fina.I did 5 weeks of trenbol with my last cycle and although i loved it,it was only a tease at 5 wks.Many long term users claim 12 weeks is needed to totally change ones physique.
Are you suggesting i get more sust?I wanted to do at least 500mg a wk of sust but most likely will pyrimid the sust cycle like i typed above unless i get more sust soon.I need to know how to throw insulin into the cycle also.Any help from someone with expirience would be greatly appriciated.

also- manny78, why do you suggest such a short winny cycle.any specific reason?

 

[manny78]

Thanks for your suggestion.I want to do at least 8 to 12 weeks of fina.I did 5 weeks of trenbol with my last cycle and although i loved it,it was only a tease at 5 wks.Many long term users claim 12 weeks is needed to totally change ones physique.
Are you suggesting i get more sust?I wanted to do at least 500mg a wk of sust but most likely will pyrimid the sust cycle like i typed above unless i get more sust soon.I need to know how to throw insulin into the cycle also.Any help from someone with expirience would be greatly appriciated.

also- manny78, why do you suggest such a short winny cycle.any specific reason?

No need for pyramid, tapreing, whatever. Just go straight at 500 mg. Dbols should give you the initial kick needed. Also 8 weeks on winny isn't short. SOme may actually consider this as being long. remember, it's 17 AA just like dbols and you'll already have 6 weeks of dbols on your system. Also I wouldn't mix both dbols and winny, too hard on the liver. You may start Fina 2 weeks before. But leave the orals this way