Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I can honestly say that I don't think I will ever buy another supplement besides protein. I make the EXACT same gains on gear whether or not I supplement with Creatine/Glutamine. I'm sure taking them can't hurt, but I'm done throwing my $$$ away. Just finished my 5th cycle gaining 8lbs when PCT was completed, same as last cycle when I used creatine/glutamine. What do you bros think?
Creatine/Glutamine CRAP!!!
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chilledandy
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Yeah, and glutamine the most abundant amino acid in muscle tissue. With the correct diet, and aas, the only other way up is correct supplement use. Perhaps you haven't got your diet straight?
Creatine is essential for muscle fuel, though we can produce it in the body, supplementing with it can further assist and prevent lactic acid build up, especially if you use creatine malate as the malate helps to remove the toxic chemicals that build up during exercise.
Creatine is essential for muscle fuel, though we can produce it in the body, supplementing with it can further assist and prevent lactic acid build up, especially if you use creatine malate as the malate helps to remove the toxic chemicals that build up during exercise.
There are few supplements that I really believe in, but creatine is definitely one! Almost everyone I know has responded to it, but I do have a few friends that didn't respond to it...even creatine + carbs. Everyone is different, but for me, creatine gives me great pumps and definitely helps stamina in the gym.
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truckdaddy
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fish oil is not good....its greattttt!
Glutamine is worthless crap.
Creatine works but there are a few non responders.
There are plenty of benificial herbs and nutrients but it takes some time to know what does what. Considering a lot of guys don't even know how gear does what it does and how and why it works I'm not surprised theyre not inclined to investige supps very closly. That doesn't mean they're worthless. And this is coming from a guy who has written on the subject and believes 90% of the stuff on the shelves is junk. But some stuff is great and is making a huge difference in health, recovery, anti aging and muscle growth.
Creatine works but there are a few non responders.
There are plenty of benificial herbs and nutrients but it takes some time to know what does what. Considering a lot of guys don't even know how gear does what it does and how and why it works I'm not surprised theyre not inclined to investige supps very closly. That doesn't mean they're worthless. And this is coming from a guy who has written on the subject and believes 90% of the stuff on the shelves is junk. But some stuff is great and is making a huge difference in health, recovery, anti aging and muscle growth.
navigatorrs
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I will be using creatine along with my PCT!!!!!!
hrpiii said:
Sorry I feel that way about Glutamine? It has nothing to do with how I feel. It's about the inability of it to be effective. Glutamine is so minimally absorbed orally I can't see how it can make musch difference at all. (Remember, it isn't prevelant in food, the body makes it from other aminos).
How are you sure it works for you? did you make no changes in diet, training or other supps other than glutimine and made better gains? How much did you use? What were the results under those conditions?
Cauliflower Ear
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i like creatine...i have a kilo of glutimine peptides...i am on the fence with it...can't tell if it works or not...probably wont get another kilo.
needtogetaas
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thats the way I use it.navigatorrs said:
Nelson Montana said:
Even though this wasn't directed towards me, I take 20g per day, four 5g doses. It helps keep me harder, pumped, provides energy, and faster recovery. To say it's worthless is wrong but maybe it's worthless for you but still wrong for you to say. It also helps with protection for the stomach, immune system and so much more. I like using along with creatine and alpha-lipoic acid. When used in conjuntion with a proper diet and training, you reap its benefits(not to mention if you're on). Those of you who say "throwing away money", maybe its time to find a place that you can buy it cheap because it's not expensive unless you buy direct from the company. Supplement warehouses sell supps for 1/2 the price so why pay more.
Mrpumped said:
I'm sorry but "faster recovery" is an unknown factor. How do you know how fast you would have recovered without it? Hey, if you feel it's working, by all means continue. But if I had to recommend what to buy if tsomeones supp budget was $100 a month, glutamine wouldn't be on the list.
needtogetaas
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nicely don friend very tasteful and to the point.good man.OMEGA said:
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lartinos
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Magnesium creatine chelate works for me!
needtogetaas
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OMEGA said:??
needtogetaas
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we do not fight as sponsors/advertisers here.we may not all see eye to eye on all things but for the most part we do and when we dont we keep it tasteful andstewfoo said:
we dont fall pray to people trying to get us to fight like this.lol were not as dumb
as the last sponsors were when it comes to things like this.sorry to kill your fun.
stewfoo said:
We've never been at war. We don't always agree but like NTGAS said we don't have to see eye to eye on everything. And nobdy here is using someones lack of response to a product as an opening to attack the product or the sponsers company. (This is something that used to happen way too often here).
With the exeption of a certain "store" I respect the sponsers here. I respect their products. I've often recommended Dermacrine because the ingredients make sense.
I've said that PF doesn't have anything like AMP02 so that's what I'd recommend. I believe Omega sells Glutamine PEPTIDES, which although isn't a big fav of mine are certainly better than straight gluamine simply for the fact that a peptide is going to be more absorbable and that's the problem with glutamine.
I think most of the sponsers will endorse a good product, even someone elses, and give a heads up to bad ones.
So this is a matter of differences which are fine as long as it doesn't become a pissing contest. So when anyone complains about the board changing, I can direct them to the fact that they're changes for the better.
needtogetaas
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good post bro.....Nelson Montana said:
I always respected Nelson and am VERY glad we disagree on key things.
Its the Same with Anthony.
It makes us all think and actually is also a source of enjoyment as well I think for everyone. Its nice to know we can disagree and yet still feel safe enough to share.
The fact that we are all free to express our ideas with each other and engage each other with the utmost respect is a testament to a wonderful Paradigm.
The more opinion the better as we are all served by this broadening of the ideological spectrum.
Its the Same with Anthony.
It makes us all think and actually is also a source of enjoyment as well I think for everyone. Its nice to know we can disagree and yet still feel safe enough to share.
The fact that we are all free to express our ideas with each other and engage each other with the utmost respect is a testament to a wonderful Paradigm.
The more opinion the better as we are all served by this broadening of the ideological spectrum.
I like this. It is just different. I think that a healthy debate about the viability of products makes sense. It does not have to get personal. I was not trying to bait anyone into personal attacks; I was only trying to understand the value of Glutamine, or g-peptides. I honestly dont know the difference.
Needto has done well in his unofficial position as peacemaker. But, there is no mudslinging going on here. The newly found freedom of expression is great and definitely lends itself to the credibility of the board.
Needto has done well in his unofficial position as peacemaker. But, there is no mudslinging going on here. The newly found freedom of expression is great and definitely lends itself to the credibility of the board.
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lartinos
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I only take it post cycle and inbetween cycles. Helps me reatain mass for sure.DBBT said:
Nelson Montana said:
Before I began using gear I worked out for 17 1/2 years using supps so I know the difference between my body being recovered or not. If no one else can tell the difference then they don't know their body's reaction towards different things. Maybe it just takes longer for some to know their body. So as far as it being an unknown factor for me it is known.
If someone had $100 a month for supps, then protein, fishoil, multi, creatine, glutamine= money left over from the $100 unless you're buying your shit from some dumb ass place like GNC or some shit.
njmuscleguy
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I take CEE during PCT and when I'm off... I think it serves its purpose... I've also jumped back on the glutamine band-wagon... started off for a few months with peptides, that got too expensive and wasn't sure if it was of much benefit... then I switched over to plain 'ol powdered glutamine... a tub lasts longer and is much cheaper, even if I have to take 20g a day. After a few months, I do see it helping with workout recovery. I believe it to be especially beneficial when you're on a calorie-restricted diet.
needtogetaas
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amen bro.OMEGA said:
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