ok im 43 with low natty test off cycle and low libido............now i know that hcgenrate and the rest of ntbm and nelsons stuff is prob the best to buy .but i cant justify spending £60 for ONE MONTHS SUPPLY OF HCGENERATE!!!! great product tho it is .i think there must be more cost effective supps that will help me,yes admittedly not as strong but still will m ake a diffrernce ....my mate takes plain old tribulus for his sex drive and says it is very effective for him at only £10 a month supply.....so that alongside bulk daa(£10 month supply .....would be something i could use all off season .any supps you guys use that are good but not too costly,,??,.please no replies telling me if i want the best i gotta pay .blah blah blah...no reps pls tellin me that , im askin the average user here with no ties to any of the sponsors ..thanks